Navajo Nation objects to sending human remains to the moon

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This is from the NPR article

"Honestly, while we respect everyone's beliefs, we do not find Mr. Nygren's concerns to be compelling," Celestis CEO and co-founder Charles M. Chafer said in a statement.
Chafer said he believed religious objections shouldn't be permitted to derail humanity's endeavors in space, and that the company's clients consider their memorial spaceflights "an appropriate celebration the polar opposite of desecration."
Elysium did not immediately reply to NPR's request for comment.
Sending remains to the moon is weird. I'll say this again when SpaceX shuttles are crashing into the moon and blowing up.
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Can you translate to English please?
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Rich people shit sending ashes to the moon.
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Nobody should be allowed to dump waste on the moon, whether its plastic or human ash.
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I was going to post a pretty ordinary summation of what religious liberty is and why it's important but if this is about Elon's Quixotic misadventures in outer space and him using Navajo land to catapult himself to the moon that's another story.
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ForsakenHermit posted...
I was going to post a pretty ordinary summation of what religious liberty is and why it's important but if this is about Elon's Quixotic misadventures in outer space and him using Navajo land to catapult himself to the moon that's another story.
Are either of those companies owned by Elon? The article says the tribe views the moon as sacred in their cosmology and not a place for human remains.

I doubt theres a hard answer for who is right. The NPR article paints it as the people who want their remains sent to the moon as being quirky. If that is the case, Id side with the Navajo Nation, ranking what they consider sacred as something requiring more support or protection because of their religion over a novelty final resting place. Now, if the moon was considered to be a sacred place and a faith suggested or promoted having believer remains there, then Id suggest discussion to figure out the best resolution.
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I honestly could not care less what people say is sacred. No decision about anything should be made because someone thinks something is magic.
Why would a person buried on the Moon be considered sacrilegious?

I also think it would help to remember by international law no one can claim the Moon. I don't know why people get possessive over it when it's not owned by anyone.
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Wait did a Navajo tribe member ask to he buried on the moon but the tribe is trying to exert dominance and say no to the final request? If so, fuck the tribe. If someone wants to be buried on the moon, they can.
FolkenRawr posted...
Did you want to share the article?
Navajo Nation objects to a plan to send human remains to the moon

https://www.npr.org/2024/01/08/1223377817/navajo-moon-human-remains
Some people aren't satisfied with dumping shit and polluting the Earth enough. So they decided to use the Moon as the world's biggest landfill.

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No, dont start polluting the moon
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Tranquility includes the DNA of 66 mission "participants," whose remains will be permanently situated on the moon's surface following Peregrine's landing. Though the plans and payloads for Celestis' Tranquility flight were publicly announced years before the mission finally made it to the launch pad, objections about depositing human remains on the moon surfaced less than a month ago.

In a Dec. 21 letter to NASA and the U.S. Department of Transportation (USDOT), President of the Navajo Nation Buu Nygren requested that the memorial launch be postponed, saying that "the act of depositing human remains and other materials, which could be perceived as discards in any other location, on the moon is tantamount to desecration of this sacred space."
Whether you think it's a sacred space or a celestial body not allowed to be claimed by anyone by international law, it definitely should not be a novelty graveyard for the wealthy.
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Humans on Earth have seen the moon long before the Navajo was even a tribe. What gives them claim over everybody
I don't particularly care about the religious or spiritual objections, but spending money and resources so wealthy folks can have the novelty of sending their remains to the moon seems wasteful, not to mention I think we really ought to avoid filling the moon with garbage.
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Okay, fine, I just made a new religion that REQUIRES remains to be smashed into the moon.

That being said, I support the Biden administration's immediate response to meet with Navajo Nation and respectfully listen to their issue.
So are the rich wasting money sending rockets into space to drop ashes on the moon?!
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TimeForAction posted...
Humans on Earth have seen the moon long before the Navajo was even a tribe. What gives them claim over everybody
They're not laying claim to it. They're appealing to the idea of the moon being a shared important place for all people that therefore you should not be allowed to dump stuff on it just because you're rich.
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The Navajo Nation, just like Christianity or Islam, shouldn't be demanding nonbelievers conform their behavior to the Navajo (or Christian/Islamic) faith.

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Doe posted...
Nobody should be allowed to dump waste on the moon, whether its plastic or human ash.

It's an alien Death Star, does trash really matter?
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DementedDurian posted...
Why would a person buried on the Moon be considered sacrilegious?

it's sacrilegious and even illegal to climb some mountains in the himalayas
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This topic is fucking ridiculous by the way for including the CEO's response absent the context of the original objection, in addition to not posting a link to the article. Like what the fuck. So now there's a bunch of people who not bothering to look it up are assuming the Navajo are "demanding nonbelievers conform their behavior" as if this is an issue about religious dogma and not how we preserve the shared global heritage object that is the fucking moon.
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Don't dump shit on the moon. How is this a complex issue.
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TheMikh posted...
it's sacrilegious and even illegal to climb some mountains in the himalayas

I never found the irks of the religious to be that credible.

You either have something that is holy and should be respected regardless who you are or occupied by monsters/demons and should be respected regardless who you are.

We all know that religion is a way of controlling people in the end and using religion to forbid someone from doing something or going somewhere was done out of control out of the people by those who ruled at the time.

It seems like a generalization, but I can't for the life of me can't think of a religion that doesn't talk about holiness or demons with both being reasons not to do something.
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Doe posted...
Nobody should be allowed to dump waste on the moon, whether its plastic or human ash.

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Lvaneede posted...
No, dont start polluting the moon

I'd rather pollute the moon instead of the Earth
We already established last year that the rich have a perfectly good mass grave waiting for them in the Atlantic Ocean.
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Blue_Dream87 posted...
We already established last year that the rich have a perfectly good mass grave waiting for them in the Atlantic Ocean.
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I doubt they are even the only culture to regard the moon in a spiritual way.
LaLeyenda posted...
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Why are we trying to make the Moon haunted?
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Hornswoggled posted...
Why are we trying to make the Moon haunted?
So there is something interesting to look at in the sky. It would be fun to see ghosts when you look up
The lander failed and it won't make it to the moon as expected.
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honestly though why not pollute the moon
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Thermador446 posted...
It's an alien Death Star, does trash really matter?
Exactly, they're just going to come back when the moon crashes into us anyway
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Theres plenty of legitimate reason to be against rich assholes polluting the moon but religious reasons is not one of them
tankboy posted...
That being said, I support the Biden administration's immediate response to meet with Navajo Nation and respectfully listen to their issue.

He shouldn't show them any respect.

This should be the moment where he pats them on the head and tells them it's nothing to do with them.

DipDipDiver posted...
Exactly, they're just going to come back when the moon crashes into us anyway

The Moon is slowly drifting away from the Earth at a rate of 4 cm per year.
DarkDoc posted...
The Moon is drifting away from the Earth at a rate of 4 cm per year.
That's exactly what the moon wants you to think!
Rika_Furude posted...
Theres plenty of legitimate reason to be against rich assholes polluting the moon but religious reasons is not one of them

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Doe posted...
Nobody should be allowed to dump waste on the moon, whether its plastic or human ash.
Nobody should be allowed to blow people to smithereens for land either but your owners think otherwise
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DarkDoc posted...
The Moon is drifting away from the Earth at a rate of 4 cm per year.
Did that post really need a serious refutation my guy?
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neccis posted...
Nobody should be allowed to blow people to smithereens for land either but your owners think otherwise
Erm? My owners?
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Sending ashes to the moon is dumb, but silly religious people aren't a reason not to do it.
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I don't think people get to make religious claims on the actual fucking moon, sorry
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