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It's just...okay. Almost aggressively so.

15 hours in and it hasn't blown me away...but it hasn't turned me off either.

Exploration does suck tho. And I'm mainly following the main quest because side quests so far have been THAT dull.

But otherwise, it's eh. Maybe I'd feel different if I actually paid for it lol (It was a gift, mods, nothing pirate related >__>)

Basically the video game equivalent of "whatever"
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Ivynn posted...
It's just...okay
That seems the general consensus
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viewmaster_pi posted...
welcome to mars, please pick up books for me

I also heard that a lot of side quests could be summed up as "this could have been an email" and so far they're right.
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Yeah from what I heard, it's not that Starfield is bad...just horribly mediocre and not worth the hype
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Ivynn posted...
It's just...okay.

Bethesda: "Shut the fuck up. It's suppose to be like that. You just don't get it. Video games are hard work."
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a bethesda game that doesn't have fun exploration sounds like the worst thing imaginable
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It's such a weird experience. Like when I'm playing it, I could play it all day and be glued. But at the same time, it's just such a nothing game.

The main quest and faction questlines aren't bad either. But everything around that - the environments, design, and engine - just makes it feel more generic and bland than it is.
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Delirious_Beard posted...
a bethesda game that doesn't have fun exploration sounds like the worst thing imaginable

yeah....if you're playing a Bethesda game and are only doing the main quest...that's a bad sign. But here we are.
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Don't keep doing the main quest. Do the UC Vanguard questline first. It's overall the highlight of the game I reckon.
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Punished_Blinx posted...
Don't keep doing the main quest. Do the UC Vanguard questline first. It's overall the highlight of the game I reckon.
At the very least do the first bit with the museum.
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It's not bad. It's just nothing special. I played a few hours of it, and all it did was make me go and replay the Mass Effect trilogy, because at least those felt like space games.

Everything in Starfield just feels like a Fallout extension.
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Starfield is just No Man's Sky but not good and way buggier
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It is a bland ass game with glimpses of cool mechanics but it's too oversaturated with cut and paste nonsense and pointless filler missions and empty worlds with no reason to explore.

Space combat is repetitive and space exploration is non-existent.

It sucks because it it could be a cool game but... it's not. They just threw some shit together and called it good.
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Hexenherz posted...
It is a bland ass game with glimpses of cool mechanics but it's too oversaturated with cut and paste nonsense and pointless filler missions and empty worlds with no reason to explore.

Space combat is repetitive and space exploration is non-existent.

It sucks because it it could be a cool game but... it's not. They just threw some shit together and called it good.
and the best praise it gets is "it's not that bad," but to me, that is why it's bad
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Sure, but for fans of Elder Scrolls and Fallout that dont want to wait a decade+ between mainline installments of those series, those series getting put on the back burner so that Bethesda could make a game that was merely not bad is a hard pill to swallow.

Im all for studios creating new IPs, but by this point and with Microsoft money they should have full-time teams dedicated to both Fallout 5 and Elder Scrolls 6.
Irregardless, for all intensive purposes, I could care less.
Thing is, theres sooo many games that aremt THAT bad so unless you are just bored out of your mind then its not worth your time. Ill be sticking to fun games.
Laughed my ass off when I saw that Starfield ad on the game awards.
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I have hardly seen anyone calling it a bad game.

The issue most people have is, it got hyped up as like the greatest game of all time by Bethesda and turned out to be... very mediocre.
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Fenriswolf posted...
Still a better game than Spiderman 1.5
I didn't care for Miles Morales either
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Delirious_Beard posted...
a bethesda game that doesn't have fun exploration sounds like the worst thing imaginable
This. Exploration and atmosphere are the only things Bethesda was historically good at post Morrowind. Their writing always sucked, their quests largely sucked, their combat always sucked, etc.
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I know they aren't AT ALL the same style of game, but any "space" game that is trying to be an RPG/Shooter type hybrid always makes me just think of Mass Effect and that I could just play that for the 6th time rather than whatever I am playing now.
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Yeah the game is like a 7-8/10 and is getting too much hate. Too many people were expecting No Man's Sky when it was never going to be that, and too many people were expecting Fallout in space, which it kind of is? but is also clearly trying to set up a similar, but not the same gameplay loop, which makes comparing to Fallout in space just not really work well.

The entire game reeks of "we had way too much time in the oven trying to be a perfectionist before making a second draft". Like, its fine, I absolutely got my money's worth playing it, but its not a game that's gonna get me hyped if the next game is a decade from now.

Starfield on its own is... fine. A Starfield 2 if it came out in less than 15 years could be really good.
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PraetorXyn posted...
This. Exploration and atmosphere are the only things Bethesda was historically good at post Morrowind. Their writing always sucked, their quests largely sucked, their combat always sucked, etc.
tbf I actually like the combat in starfield, it gives me some ... really elementary Cyberpunk 2077 vibes.

But the combat alone can't carry the game.
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it's wild that sliding has to be unlocked, and then when you get it, it does nothing. it's the shortest slide in video game history. that should have been its VGA award
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I feel like with every Bethesda game I play I get super into them and then when I finally beat the main story I feel deflated and don't really want to touch it anymore and Starfield is no different.
viewmaster_pi posted...
it's wild that sliding has to be unlocked, and then when you get it, it does nothing. it's the shortest slide in video game history. that should have been its VGA award
So many things are locked in the skill tree for no reason, and some way farther than necessary.

I'll never understand why shit like "One More Crew Member" needed to be a highest tier skill.
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DrizztLink posted...
So many things are locked in the skill tree for no reason, and some way farther than necessary.

I'll never understand why shit like "One More Crew Member" needed to be a highest tier skill.

Yeah that's a weird one. Almost everything in the tree up to that point is useless too.
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Proto_Spark posted...
Yeah the game is like a 7-8/10 and is getting too much hate. Too many people were expecting No Man's Sky when it was never going to be that, and too many people were expecting Fallout in space, which it kind of is? but is also clearly trying to set up a similar, but not the same gameplay loop, which makes comparing to Fallout in space just not really work well.

The entire game reeks of "we had way too much time in the oven trying to be a perfectionist before making a second draft". Like, its fine, I absolutely got my money's worth playing it, but its not a game that's gonna get me hyped if the next game is a decade from now.

Starfield on its own is... fine. A Starfield 2 if it came out in less than 15 years could be really good.

The thing is, they hyped their game as if it was going to be the best thing ever. And it turned out to be a meh game instead.
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My clock said I played for 24 days... so over 575 hours.

I was level 135+.

your right, it was not "that bad" it just was not that good.

with a company with lots of rpg experience under there belts.

they also have MODS to pull from. its easy, just look at the highest rated mods,
and it tells you WHAT the customers want. so freaking easy.

did any of that get into this game... NOPE. its just MEH. you got planet scanning. YIPPIEEEE
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I liked Starfield well enough, but I'll say, as soon as Cyberpunk 2.0 and Phantom Liberty came out, I never touched it again. It's just not even on the same level.
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Times have changed in the 12 years since Skyrim, Bethesda jank and lack of actual vision is much more noticeable when stuff like Cyberpunk 2077 and Baldur's Gate 3 exist in the same realm. And do things far, far, FAR better.
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Eh. I was interested in the game when I first heard about it.

Then I heard that most of the exploration was going to be procedurally generated and my enthusiasm deflated like a sad whoopie cushion. That's the main reason I even look at Bethesda games.

Starfield being "fine" seems to be the general consensus and also its biggest complaint.
Kaldrenthebold posted...
Times have changed in the 12 years since Skyrim, Bethesda jank and lack of actual vision is much more noticeable when stuff like Cyberpunk 2077 and Baldur's Gate 3 exist in the same realm. And do things far, far, FAR better.

LOL how many updates did it took to make Cyberpunk 2077 playable again?
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Kaldrenthebold posted...
Times have changed in the 12 years since Skyrim, Bethesda jank and lack of actual vision is much more noticeable when stuff like Cyberpunk 2077 and Baldur's Gate 3 exist in the same realm. And do things far, far, FAR better.
That comparison video between the "The Pickup" mission in Cyberpunk and some mission on Neon in Starfield was hilarious. It's like one came out in 2007 and it's not Cyberpunk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K4ADco41g9s
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I'm loving Starfield, and the exploration is fine as long as you're not landing on planets your scanners tell you is barren and then expecting to find anything.
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variasuite posted...
That comparison video between the "The Pickup" mission in Cyberpunk and some mission on Neon in Starfield was hilarious. It's like one came out in 2007 and it's not Cyberpunk.

Wow, let's compare an acclaimed mission in one game with an average mission in another game and pretend the rest of the missions are the same. I can easily do the same by comparing "Entangled" in Starfield with some random street fight in Cyberpunk 2077, hypocrite.

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Fenriswolf posted...
Wow, let's compare an acclaimed mission in one game with an average mission in another game and pretend the rest of the missions are the same. I can easily do the same by comparing "Entangled" in Starfield with some random street fight in Cyberpunk 2077, hypocrite.
Um, that's not even in the top third of Cyberpunk's missions. It's honestly a glorified tutorial and not very important.
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variasuite posted...
Um, that's not even in the top third of Cyberpunk's missions. It's honestly a glorified tutorial and not very important.

And you think the Starfield mission you mentioned is its best? Did you even play Starfield?
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I think thats what makes it worse. It was one of the most hyped up xbox exclusives ever and its incredibly mediocre I heard. Which absolutely sucks because I was so looking forward to getting it on PC and modding it in a few years. But it seems even the modders are giving up on it >_>
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Fenriswolf posted...
And you think the Starfield mission you mentioned is its best? Did you even play Starfield?
A few dozen hours until I got bored, yes. So you're saying Starfield has good presentation sometimes?
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
I think thats what makes it worse. It was one of the most hyped up xbox exclusives ever and its incredibly mediocre I heard . Which absolutely sucks because I was so looking forward to getting it on PC and modding it in a few years. But it seems even the modders are giving up on it >_>

So you haven't played the game but are just listening to hearsay. Okay
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variasuite posted...
A few dozen hours until I got bored, yes. So you're saying Starfield has good presentation sometimes?

Oh so you're admitting that you haven't played most of the game and are just making crap up? LMAO that's like saying you played Oblivion when you didn't even touch the main mission nor had the gates open.
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