Reminder: The Bible warns about Christmas trees!

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Christmas trees are an old pagan tradition that Christians adopted.

Jeremiah 10
1 Hear ye the word which the Lord speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:
2 Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.
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It's inconvenient so it's ignored like many other Bible verses.
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Christians don't heed the Old Testament and Jews don't celebrate Christmas. So it's all good.
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Statewitness posted...
Christians don't heed the Old Testament
Where do you think the 10 Commandments come from?
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Given the context everyone ignores, this is clearly about making wooden idols.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=jeremiah%2010&version=NIV
Well as long as anyone isn't worshipping the tree, we should be good.
RedWhiteBlue posted...
Seriously, how do Christians reconcile this when it's brought up?

Im allowed to have culture outside of religion. Jesus doesnt care if I put up a tree but Grandma does and its fun.

Pagans that converted to Christianity hundreds/thousands years ago were not asked to completely renounce their entire culture. If it makes you happy and it doesn't conflict with scripture then have at it.
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Given the context everyone ignores, this is clearly about making wooden idols.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=jeremiah%2010&version=NIV
A specific wooden idol that represent a God that died December 23th and was reborn as his own son on December 25th.
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Foppe posted...
A specific wooden idol that represent a God that died December 23th and was reborn as his own son on December 25th.
Christmas Creature?

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Questionmarktarius posted...
Given the context everyone ignores, this is clearly about making wooden idols.
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=jeremiah%2010&version=NIV

Yeah, it doesn't seem like Christmas trees themselves are bad. Just don't go worshipping it or anything.
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Our tree is made of plastic, a material which is not mentioned in scripture. Yahtzee, agnostics.
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Questionmarktarius posted...
Christmas Creature?

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Nimrod and Tammuz.
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People quoting scripture they don't believe to try to "own" religious people
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Foppe posted...
Christmas trees are an old pagan tradition that Christians adopted.

Jeremiah 10
1 Hear ye the word which the Lord speaketh unto you, O house of Israel:
2 Thus saith the Lord, Learn not the way of the heathen, and be not dismayed at the signs of heaven; for the heathen are dismayed at them.
3 For the customs of the people are vain: for one cutteth a tree out of the forest, the work of the hands of the workman, with the axe.
4 They deck it with silver and with gold; they fasten it with nails and with hammers, that it move not.

Aaaand? What's your point?
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Shishiwakamaru posted...
People quoting scripture they don't believe to try to "own" religious people

Nothing wrong with pointing out religious hypocrisy.
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That passage would be far more apt to be used as a descriptor for the Jesus on a cross, than anything else that stands today.

Jeremiah : 10 verses 1 - 5 is one of my favorites.
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Ooooooranges posted...
Nothing wrong with pointing out religious hypocrisy.

You probably don't even know what you're quoting. Relevant quote from the Quran:

"It is He who revealed to you the Book. Some of its verses are definitive; they are the foundation of the Book, and others are unspecific. As for those in whose hearts is deviation, they follow the unspecific part, seeking dissent, and seeking to derive an interpretation. But none knows its interpretation except God and those firmly rooted in knowledge say, We believe in it; all is from our Lord. But none recollects except those with understanding."

-3:7
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Yes, a lot of modern Christmas imagery is pagan in nature or taken from a lot of different religions. But I believe the problem that lies within that is idolatry, not necessarily the presence of them.
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Shishiwakamaru posted...
You probably don't even know what you're quoting. Relevant quote from the Quran:

"It is He who revealed to you the Book. Some of its verses are definitive; they are the foundation of the Book, and others are unspecific. As for those in whose hearts is deviation, they follow the unspecific part, seeking dissent, and seeking to derive an interpretation. But none knows its interpretation except God and those firmly rooted in knowledge say, We believe in it; all is from our Lord. But none recollects except those with understanding."

-3:7

That sounds like a pretty slick way of saying don't question anything.
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ItsNotA2Mer posted...
That sounds like a pretty slick way of saying don't question anything.

Ironically, it's more like "don't be dishonest"
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"Why are we against gay people"
"God says it's bad in the bible"
"What about all this other weird shit God is against in the bible"
"You are reading too much into it and no one knows what God meant in those parts except God"
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Shishiwakamaru posted...
Ironically, it's more like "don't be dishonest"

Hmm, guess I misread it.
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I like An-Nisa 4:82
Do they not then reflect on the Quran? Had it been from anyone other than Allah, they would have certainly found in it many inconsistencies.

Because, you know, it got multiple contradictions.
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Eh, Christmas Trees are a-ok as long as you confess and repent afterwards.

Same like all other sins, except this one isn't against the law unless you stole the tree.
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Kuuko posted...
"Why are we against gay people"
"God says it's bad in the bible"
"What about all this other weird shit God is against in the bible"
"You are reading too much into it and no one knows what God meant in those parts except God"

Ideally the answer to both should be I dont know Gods position but my best guess is _____. If they admitted their uncertainty then hopefully theyd be less likely to force their views on others.
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bfslick50 posted...
Ideally the answer to both should be I dont know Gods position but my best guess is _____. If they admitted their uncertainty then hopefully theyd be less likely to force their views on others.
I mean God's position is almost always pretty clear in the Old Testament. He has a pretty straightforward way of talking and it's usually explicitly like "I command you - ABSOLUTELY DO NOT DO thing". It's just that if everyone listened to him when he said stuff then it'd be really annoying like not shaving parts of our head and not mixing different clothing types together. That's all really a bummer. So people would rather say God must have meant something else than what he clearly said, or that those rules applied to ancient people but not us. He didn't imply that at all, but it would be very convenient that way so it is preferable.

Except the parts that let us discriminate against minorities. God was clear about those and the interpretations are not unclear and they definitely still all apply today.
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Kuuko posted...
Except the parts that let us discriminate against minorities. God was clear about those and the interpretations are not unclear and they definitely still all apply today.
Usually the excuse is "because Paul said so" in one of those New Testament books named after town.
Weird.
I highly recommend reading Kiwihellenist blog on Christmas supposed pagan roots:
https://kiwihellenist.blogspot.com/2017/12/christmas-reminder-2017.html?m=1
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Seems like a criticism of the rich or the holy romans more than of pagans

UndefeatedGOAT posted...
Seems like a criticism of the rich or the holy romans more than of pagans
By the time that was written, the Roman Kingdom was a minor city-state on the Italian peninsula.
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Foppe posted...
By the time that was written, the Roman Kingdom was a minor city-state on the Italian peninsula.

i see

i really really dont understand why anything other than the 4 gospels, or really the book of matthew gets any attention from christians

what about east hre, or germans claiming to be holy romans
Shishiwakamaru posted...
Ironically, it's more like "don't be dishonest"

This. It also even informs that yes many Surahs in the Quran are allegorical.

The main point is to read it with the best/most honest intentions so that you can get the best guidance that you can from it. That's what I get from the Surah you just posted
masterpug53 posted...
Our tree is made of plastic, a material which is not mentioned in scripture. Yahtzee, agnostics.


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Foppe posted...
A specific wooden idol that represent a God that died December 23th and was reborn as his own son on December 25th.

Source that isn't one of those 19th century attempts to falsely claim that Catholicism is a continuation of the Babylonian religion?
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To be fair, the tree they were referring to was an "Asherah tree" or "Asherah Pole", a tree dedicated to the Canaanite goddess of fertility, Asherah. You might be more familiar with her medieval name "Astaroth."

There are some Israeli pagans (think Wicca for ethnic Israeli Jews) who plant Asherah trees in their gardens.
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Serious_Cat posted...
Source that isn't one of those 19th century attempts to falsely claim that Catholicism is a continuation of the Babylonian religion?
The Bible mentions Tammuz and Nimrod.
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Foppe posted...
The Bible mentions Tammuz and Nimrod.
I know. I'm still asking for a source that specifically links them to the tradition of Christmas trees that doesn't trace back to a debunked 19th century effort to link Catholicism to the Babylonian religion.
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