News report talks about ending DST, shows people complaining it's dark too early

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Wtf is this? Does anyone even know what they are talking about?

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Its 8 o clock in the morning and its completely dark outside this is such bullshit

it is raining though so that is probably why
Big picture is I don't care just stop changing

But if I had to pick one - sun rises late and sets late.
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I say either get rid of it or make it permanent everywhere
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Permanent Standard Time

DST needs abolishing badly.
Hoppy800 posted...
Permanent Standard Time

DST needs abolishing badly.

Why tho?

Admittedly it will always be worse in the winter but the sun setting before 6:00PM always sucks
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Theyve been talking about this for years and nothing happens. Just leave it the way it is.
Cupcake2006 posted...
Big picture is I don't care just stop changing

But if I had to pick one - sun rises late and sets late.

That's really where the issue comes in: Most people agree it should stop, but nobody can agree on which one to pick. So we keep alternating between them.
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I don't care which but just stop the switching. It's a stupid archaic system.
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Let us keep the extra hour, it's only an issue when people lose an hour of their day
We should just add more hours
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Honestly, no one would notice if all clocks just handled it automatically. The only reason I notice anymore is when I get into my car on a Sunday and the time is off by an hour.
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Cupcake2006 posted...
Big picture is I don't care just stop changing

But if I had to pick one - sun rises late and sets late.

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Dikitain posted...
Honestly, no one would notice if all clocks just handled it automatically. The only reason I notice anymore is when I get into my car on a Sunday and the time is off by an hour.

Depends what you're doing around sunrise/sunset. If you're already up before the sun most days regardless of the time change, it makes little difference. Same if you're consistently up after sunrise. If you're out and about near sunrise, though, getting more and more light to start your day for a few weeks before DST ends and it suddenly gets dark again, that's very noticeable, and I find that really messes with me.

Clocks changing automatically can help keep you from being consciously aware of it, but unless your daily schedule shifts at the same time, you're likely to notice some changes in how light it is before/after work.
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This is literally the worst way they can go about it, the sun rising at 4 AM in the summer would suck and the sun setting at like 8 at the latest in the summer would also suck.

But given the state of things we only get the worst options ever anymore.
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Occupy_This posted...
Theyve been talking about this for years and nothing happens. Just leave it the way it is.

Ditto
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Hoppy800 posted...
Permanent Standard Time

DST needs abolishing badly.

Agreed. This is how it's supposed to be, DST is just forced for commerce.
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I hate how with DST it sets up the hours so that it's dark when you go to work, you sit in a windowless office all day, then it's dark when you go home.
Fuck DST.
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SinisterSlay posted...
I hate how with DST it sets up the hours so that it's dark when you go to work, you sit in a windowless office all day, then it's dark when you go home.
Fuck DST.

Thats standard time. With DST, it stays bright well into the evening hours. Especially in the summer
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SinisterSlay posted...
I hate how with DST it sets up the hours so that it's dark when you go to work, you sit in a windowless office all day, then it's dark when you go home.
Fuck DST.
That's just the winter time honestly
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Health experts agree that permanent ST is best. Permanent DST was tried once in the US in 1974, but it was quickly abandoned because it put the lives of children in danger while commuting to school during winter mornings.
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I prefer permanent standard time.
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Thats standard time. With DST, it stays bright well into the evening hours. Especially in the summer
Right sorry I got it backwards
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Why tho?

Admittedly it will always be worse in the winter but the sun setting before 6:00PM always sucks
Because it sucks going to sleep when the sun is setting at 9 oclock in the summer. Especially with kids that go down earlier and the sun is still bright.
Zareth posted...
That's just the winter time honestly

Pretty much. Later Fall / Winter Days get a little less light. If Standard Time was put back during spring/summer it would be fine.
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fishy071 posted...
I prefer permanent standard time.

This. Then I won't need to remember "spring forward, fall back". That said I can live with it not changing from how it is right now. People always find something to moan about. I'm a nightowl and love the dark so maybe I'm biased.
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How about we make the sunrise permanently align with noon? AM is for the dark and PM is mostly for the light.

Or maybe we just keep adding the hours so every year you get that sweet sweet extra hour but we don't subtract an hour and lose sleep, like sure, within a couple of years we'll have the sun out in the middle of the night but it's not like time is real anyways
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Occupy_This posted...
Theyve been talking about this for years and nothing happens. Just leave it the way it is.

This. Let states decide if they want it or not.
Sun sets too late in summer with daylight savings time

standard time forever
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Mystery_man2 posted...
This. Let states decide if they want it or not.

States are allowed to decide if they want Permanent Standard Time but not Permanent DST

Actually it could be legal to move your time zone up by one hour and then have Permanent Standard Time, I don't know
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Damn_Underscore posted...
States are allowed to decide if they want Permanent Standard Time but not Permanent DST

Actually it could be legal to move your time zone up by one hour and then have Permanent Standard Time, I don't know
Most places just randomly choose what timezone they use, look at a map of all the time zones, it's all twisty and weird, hell even the international date line twists around Russia/Alaska and jumps around islands in the pacific. Timezones are more political than scientific which feels like it defeats the purpose.
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Muscles posted...
Timezones are more political than scientific which feels like it defeats the purpose.

Not so much "political" as just being convenient. If chunks of Alaska were on a different day from the rest of the country at all times, that'd be a nightmare to work around. Similarly, even if you could make a case for, say, having half of Quebec on Atlantic time, it's easier to just make the whole province Eastern than to have to remember that Montreal and Quebec City are in different time zones.

At the end of the day, time zones are always going to be approximations in how well they relate to the day-night cycle. Even if you did divide the earth up with 24 perfect north-south lines, the sun is going to set an hour later on the western edge of any given time zone than on the eastern edge. With that in mind, fudging zone lines a bit to make them easier to remember and minimize the chance that people in a given state (or similar geopolitical region) have to think about what time it is in another city within that state is pretty reasonable. There are limits, of course, and examples of it being a little silly, but I still don't see a problem with taking some liberties.
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Sun will rise no matter what so it doesn't matter if its a little dark at 6-7 am.

DST is better.
shoryukek posted...
Sun will rise no matter what so it doesn't matter if its a little dark at 6-7 am.

DST is better.

People do things like get ready for the day or sit and relax at specific times every day
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Whatever spring time is. Jumps ahead, but not sure if this is DST on or off. I like it light later. Nice for patio gatherings.
Out of curiosity, which way aligns with the rest of the world that isn't silly enough to mess with daylight savings? In terms of which half of the year. I don't really know which is standard vs whatever.
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Perma-DST. The extra light at the end of the day would be safer and more useful for me.
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