Sonic Adventure vs. Sonic Adventure 2

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Damn_Underscore
08/26/2024
11:35 AM
#1
Which game do you like more?
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OhhhJa
08/26/2024
11:58 AM
#2
Sonic adventure 2 was the last great sonic game. I had the battle version and played the shit out of that. Got some big time nostalgia for the chao garden. They should make a 3rd one
Metalsonic66
08/26/2024
01:32 PM
#3
I go back and forth on them; there are things I prefer about the first one (Adventure Fields, individual campaigns, world design), and things I prefer about the second (overall gameplay/controls, story, animation)
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adjl
08/26/2024
01:55 PM
#4
Metalsonic66 posted...
I go back and forth on them; there are things I prefer about the first one (Adventure Fields, individual campaigns, world design), and things I prefer about the second (overall gameplay/controls, story, animation)

This sounds about right. I definitely played more of 2.
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Metalsonic66
08/26/2024
02:40 PM
#5
Oh and of course the Chao Garden was expanded quite a bit in SA2
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adjl
08/26/2024
02:44 PM
#6
I'm genuinely surprised Sega hasn't tried to reimagine SA2's chao garden as a standalone game, especially with how well-suited the concept is to a mobile/live service game.
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Lokarin
08/26/2024
03:05 PM
#7
adjl posted...
I'm genuinely surprised Sega hasn't tried to reimagine SA2's chao garden as a standalone game, especially with how well-suited the concept is to a mobile/live service game.

especially since they could do a Steam Chao Garden that has multiple game support
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adjl
08/26/2024
03:54 PM
#8
And like Chao cosmetics that are exclusive to certain games, and maybe some integration of your Chao into the games in a broader sense... There's so much untapped potential there.

Granted, I'm saying this having not played a Sonic game since Secret Rings despite how many are readily available to me and the fact that I have every reason to believe that many of them are quite good, so perhaps I'm overstating my enthusiasm a bit, but still.
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MagusXGP
08/26/2024
07:16 PM
#9
the 2nd was a fun collectathon
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BlazeAndBlade
08/26/2024
09:14 PM
#10
Metalsonic66 posted...
Oh and of course the Chao Garden was expanded quite a bit in SA2


using the VMU to train them like a Tamagotchi was interesting you could even battle other VMU users
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JixHedgehog
08/26/2024
09:21 PM
#11
The original by a looooong shot

Sonic 3 movie trailer tomorrow
Damn_Underscore
08/26/2024
09:22 PM
#12
JixHedgehog posted...
The original by a looooong shot

Sonic 3 movie trailer tomorrow

I used to think this back in the day because I liked the Adventure Fields a lot, but I like Sonic Adventure 2 a lot now
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ToastyPOP
08/26/2024
10:22 PM
#13
Metalsonic66 posted...
I go back and forth on them; there are things I prefer about the first one (Adventure Fields, individual campaigns, world design), and things I prefer about the second (overall gameplay/controls, story, animation)
Same. I love the world design of SA1 and how it tells it's story, but I think the core gameplay of SA2 is more polished and fleshed out. It's also much more challenging, SA1 is actually like super easy, for the most part.

Another thing that helps SA2 is the ports generally being in better shape. They still have problems but they're no where near as butchered as pretty much every version of SA1 after the dreamcast.

Metalsonic66
08/27/2024
07:37 AM
#14
Yeah it's a damn shame how after 25 years they can't properly remaster the original Dreamcast version
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Damn_Underscore
08/27/2024
07:40 AM
#15
With mods the Steam version of SA1 is just fine, you can even use the original graphics instead of the GameCube graphics
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Metalsonic66
08/27/2024
07:41 AM
#16
Yes but I mean in an official capacity
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rexcrk
08/27/2024
07:51 AM
#17
Sonic Adventure 2 for sure.

But I do appreciate that the first game had actual adventure free roam.
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SilentSeph
08/27/2024
09:16 AM
#18
Sonic Adventure 2, but like others mentioned I enjoyed the individual campaigns and Adventure Fields in 1
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morphinapg
08/27/2024
11:13 PM
#19
Sonic Adventure 2 has the better story and it's more polished, but the game design is garbage. 80% of the game or more is spent on non-hedgehog stages, and none of them are good. I'll take Sonic Adventure over that.
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GanonsSpirit
08/27/2024
11:25 PM
#20
morphinapg posted...
80% of the game or more is spent on non-hedgehog stages, and none of them are good.
That's true for the first one too.
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teddy241
08/28/2024
01:05 AM
#21
Sonic Adventure was revolutionary. First time Sonic in 128-bit open world it was too much. Dreamcast was everything back then. Best era in my gaming life.
Lokarin
08/28/2024
02:46 AM
#22
I like SA2 more, but gosh dang the Dreamcast did some things really nice... I have no idea what it was but their graphics engine or particle generator or whatever was leagues ahead of the Gamecube/PS2, some special effects on it still can't be replicated properly.
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darkknight109
08/28/2024
03:00 AM
#23
Sonic Adventure by a mile. Better aesthetics, way better soundtrack, awesome story, adventure fields kicked ass, and while neither game's story is Shakespeare by any stretch of the imagination, I liked SA1's better.

One of the thing that defined the classic Sonic games was variety in level environments, taking you from lush hills to gaudy casinos to scorching deserts to subterranean caves, and SA1 continued that tradition - you were playing on a beach, then a theme park, then a volcano, then an airship, then an ancient temple. SA2, by contrast, was just awful about generic, samey-feeling levels. Which generic urban landscape/grey base was your favourite?

Finally, SA2 gave us the blight that was Shadow the Hedgehog - a.k.a. "Early-2000s edgy bullshit incarnate" - and we've been stuck with him ever since because Sega refuses to just let him die.

Don't get me wrong, SA2 was still a good game, but SA1 was a great one.
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Cupcake2006
08/28/2024
10:40 AM
#24
I never played 1 but my buddy and I played 2 (battle) so many times that the record keeping in the multiplayer topped out at 999 wins on each side
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pedro45
08/28/2024
11:27 AM
#25
Sonic Adventure. I never beat 2 though i wanna try again someday.
I like being able to play in the order I want.
it's a really fun action adventure game to this day.

2 with how you're forced to play in a certain order just feels...wrong. all the adventure is sucked out of it. It's a little prettier.

now the major problem with 1 is big. Seriously, you take him out of that game and you gain a solid point, taking 7.5/10 and making it 8.5/10 at least.

There's stressful levels and long levels, but not too much so. It's either a boss or towards the end.

I feel like playing it again by the new year in fact, but making sure to beat Big the Cat as quickly as possible to get him out of the way. If you miss his first power up, you're basically doomed. Dooooomed!
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Metalsonic66
08/28/2024
06:54 PM
#26
I still can't believe Big was Duke Nukem
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Damn_Underscore
08/28/2024
06:55 PM
#27
If you take the time to learn how Big controls/what you need to do to beat his levels Big actually becomes relaxing and fun to play as
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darkknight109
08/28/2024
07:09 PM
#28
I never understood the hatred for Big. He has precisely four levels in the game, none of which are difficult, and the fishing minigame is pretty straightforward if all you're trying to do is clear the game (his A-ranks are a nuisance if you dislike the fishing minigame, but that's only required for people going for 100% completion [which, in the original, didn't even give you anything as a reward]).

I get why people might have disliked the character and his gameplay, but the complaining was ridiculously over the top. Some people were making it seem like his fishing levels were half the game when they were actually the shortest of the six main campaigns other than Amy's.
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Metalsonic66
08/28/2024
09:35 PM
#29
As a kid his campaign seemed really long
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ToastyPOP
08/28/2024
10:34 PM
#30
If you're just playing to get through the story, Big is a non-issue. His stages are comically easy and short. I can see why people can get frustrated with them though. Some of the fishing mechanics are not communicated very well. Like holding the stick neutral when you get a bite, I've seen a lot of people get tripped up on that.

And if you're going for all emblems, I don't think the game tells you that you need all the lure upgrades for the 2000g fish to even spawn. This actually tripped me up back then. I spent way too much time trying to find these super elusive fish only to eventually realize I was missing a lure upgrade...
rexcrk
08/29/2024
07:48 AM
#31
I played through the first one recently and I honestly remember not having that much trouble with Bigs stages. And arent there only like three of them?

Its possible Im misremembering lol but I think people tend to blow that out of proportion (but this is the internet so)
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pedro45
08/29/2024
10:56 AM
#32
ToastyPOP posted...
If you're just playing to get through the story, Big is a non-issue. His stages are comically easy and short. I can see why people can get frustrated with them though. Some of the fishing mechanics are not communicated very well. Like holding the stick neutral when you get a bite, I've seen a lot of people get tripped up on that.

And if you're going for all emblems, I don't think the game tells you that you need all the lure upgrades for the 2000g fish to even spawn. This actually tripped me up back then. I spent way too much time trying to find these super elusive fish only to eventually realize I was missing a lure upgrade...
Please tell me more about this neutral stick position. That might be what's getting me.
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StarReaper13
08/29/2024
11:41 AM
#33
Overall 2
1 was great, but I hated playing as Amy and Big (as a kid)

In another life, maybe 06 could have been even better
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silvergokuZ
08/29/2024
12:01 PM
#34
Graphically SA2 by a long shot, almost everything else SA1

Outside of City Escape there was no real memorable SA2 stages though I liked the final boss.

SA1 I enjoyed most of the stages even wished there was more for each character except Big and Sonic.
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Cupcake2006
08/29/2024
05:02 PM
#35
silvergokuZ posted...
Outside of City Escape there was no real memorable SA2 stages though I liked the final boss.
Maybe it's because of the rap but I feel like I remember every single Knuckles stage - pumpkin hill obviously, aquatic mine, wild canyon, the space one... those are the ones off the top of my head.

radical highway was sick. white/green jungles were solid. sky rail was sick too actually

not much to remember about the mech stages though will give you that, but as i reflect on this, most of the non-mech stages were legit
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ToastyPOP
08/31/2024
04:48 PM
#36
pedro45 posted...
Please tell me more about this neutral stick position. That might be what's getting me.
I despise the fishing
I misremembered... You actually have the pull the control stick down the second you get a bite not hold it neutral, otherwise you'll instantly loose whatevers biting.
pedro45
08/31/2024
05:30 PM
#37
ToastyPOP posted...
I misremembered... You actually have the pull the control stick down the second you get a bite not hold it neutral, otherwise you'll instantly loose whatevers biting.
Hopefully i remember that next time i play. I can get fish on my line, but it takes forever to reel them in successfully.
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