Again, not actual Nazis
Again, not actual Nazis.
Again, not actual Nazis. And Trump condemned supremacists just yesterday.
Zeus posted...
Again, not actual Nazis.
Given how adamant(ly wrong) you are about this, am I correct in presuming that you take a similarly hardline stance whenever the term "feminazi" is used, and never use the term yourself under any circumstances?
adjl posted...
Zeus posted...
Again, not actual Nazis.
Given how adamant(ly wrong) you are about this, am I correct in presuming that you take a similarly hardline stance whenever the term "feminazi" is used, and never use the term yourself under any circumstances?
Nobody who hears or says "feminazi" thinks that it means the feminists in question are literal nazis, so of course he wouldn't take a similarly hardline stance when that term is used.
Not that I agree with Zeus, mind you, I just think your rebuttal is dumb.
Currant_Kaiser posted...
adjl posted...
Zeus posted...
Again, not actual Nazis.
Given how adamant(ly wrong) you are about this, am I correct in presuming that you take a similarly hardline stance whenever the term "feminazi" is used, and never use the term yourself under any circumstances?
Nobody who hears or says "feminazi" thinks that it means the feminists in question are literal nazis, so of course he wouldn't take a similarly hardline stance when that term is used.
Not that I agree with Zeus, mind you, I just think your rebuttal is dumb.
OK, here's a better rebuttal: They are LITERALLY SELF-PROCLAIMED Nazis. This isn't hyperbole or Godwin's Law. They CALL themselves Nazis. They waved the flag, wore the armbands, and chanted "Blood and Soil", among other things.
They were Nazis* (*and technically, white supremacists were mixed in too, a la the KKK, but I don't care enough to make the distinction between the 2).
adjl posted...
Zeus posted...
Again, not actual Nazis.
Given how adamant(ly wrong) you are about this, am I correct in presuming that you take a similarly hardline stance whenever the term "feminazi" is used, and never use the term yourself under any circumstances?
Nobody who hears or says "feminazi" thinks that it means the feminists in question are literal nazis, so of course he wouldn't take a similarly hardline stance when that term is used.
Not that I agree with Zeus, mind you, I just think your rebuttal is dumb.
Zeus posted...
Again, not actual Nazis
What are Neo-Nazis then?
Zeus posted...
Again, not actual Nazis.
Given how adamant(ly wrong) you are about this, am I correct in presuming that you take a similarly hardline stance whenever the term "feminazi" is used, and never use the term yourself under any circumstances?
OK, here's a better rebuttal: They are LITERALLY SELF-PROCLAIMED Nazis. This isn't hyperbole or Godwin's Law. They CALL themselves Nazis. They waved the flag, wore the armbands, and chanted "Blood and Soil", among other things.
While your point would be valid if that was all he was doing, his current schitck is quoting the ToU's position on calling people Nazis (which dates from a fairly specific time in GameFAQs history that isn't particularly applicable anymore), as well as invoking the dismissive "you call everyone you disagree with Nazis" defense. Packaging all of that together while still being okay with "feminazi" should be invoking some pretty major cognitive dissonance, for the self-aware.
What if they called themselves Apache and appropriated their look, etc? Would you call them Apache? What if they dressed like jedi knights and called themselves that. Would you call them jedi? Not that it really matters because they wouldn't be either, but it'd be lulz if you did.
Zeus posted...
What if they called themselves Apache and appropriated their look, etc? Would you call them Apache? What if they dressed like jedi knights and called themselves that. Would you call them jedi? Not that it really matters because they wouldn't be either, but it'd be lulz if you did.
Are you really going to be so pedantic that I have to clarify that I obviously mean *Neo-Nazi?
Given that the term "feminazi" has zero historical connection with an actual group that did anything of significance
Well, yes since you only call them nazis
... Did you seriously suggest that the term "feminazi" is not derived from the name of any other group?
The term "neo-nazi" refers to followers of the Nazi party's ideals in a post-WWII world, effectively Nazis of whatever era qualifies as "modern" when the term is being used.
neo-
combining form
1.
new.
"neonate"
It derives the negativity of nazism, it does not mean feminazis want to gas jews or really share any ideals with nazism.
They are new nazis like new coke, a group with the same underlying direction but handled with very different ingredients with a new flavour. Nazis follow the old WWII methodology with the same old intents, neo nazis are the new, reformed group.
So it's an example of just using the term "Nazi" to describe someone you don't like? Oh hey, we're back where we started!
Ideologically (which is what's important here), they're the same thing. Neo-Nazis just look at history and realize they probably aren't going to be able to do what the original Nazis did, courtesy of pretty much everyone that isn't also a Nazi hating them, so they tend to try a more subtle approach in practice
Omg guys I figured it out
#1 take any cause
#2 bring in real neonazis
#3 integrate them into the protesters
#4 instant hate for that entire protest
So we can get rid of extreme feminists!
Its ingenious!
Can you imagine it?
Feminist:
"that fast food worker sexually assaulted me with his mind when he handed my burger"
Nazi holding up protest sign near her:
"Yeah fuck that dude, seig heil!"
Result:
everyone hates feminazis now
It really depends on how the impeachment goes. Pence might be worse, albeit in the opposite direction. At the very least, Trump has destroyed establishment politics, and thank god for that. The post-Trump America will never go back to pre-Trump America.
Zeus posted...
Given that the term "feminazi" has zero historical connection with an actual group that did anything of significance
... Did you seriously suggest that the term "feminazi" is not derived from the name of any other group? You just keep finding new sharks to jump, don't you?
SmokeMassTree posted...
Well, yes since you only call them nazis
The term "neo-nazi" refers to followers of the Nazi party's ideals in a post-WWII world, effectively Nazis of whatever era qualifies as "modern" when the term is being used. Given how unlikely it is that anyone discussing the matter has invented time travel, it really shouldn't be too much of a stretch to realize that people that are talking about Nazis in a modern context are discussing neo-Nazis, without the need to explicitly specify.
Literally the whole modifier changes the meaning. Unless you think "grammar nazis" go around sticking people in ovens. Stop being purposefully or inadvertently dense.
Which is a lame justification for the indefensible. As always:
"Calling someone a "Nazi" shows that not only have you absolutely no grasp of history, but it's also a flame, and a TOS violation."
... Are you suggesting that "grammar Nazi" also isn't derived from "Nazi"? Seriously, you should take this shark-finding ability to the WWF. They could use it to help endangered populations recover, even if you have a bizarre compulsion to jump over them when you find them.
Do you just struggle with the concept of non-explicit communication?
More importantly, do you call grammar nazis actual Nazis? Do you call feminazis actual Nazis? No? Why is that, then? Because they're NOT the same thing and it's f***ing confusing to imply that they are?
Asks the guy who just doesn't get it. Tsk, tsk, tsk.
How are you struggling with the idea that "Grammar Nazi" and "Feminazi" are derived from "Nazi"? It's literally in the name. And not just "literally" in the sense of "the 'neo-' is clearly implied for anyone that isn't being needlessly pedantic to avoid having to deal with being on the same side as Nazis," 100% literally and unambiguously right there.
Would you care to use your dizzying intellect to explain why "neo-" isn't implied in talking about the modern iteration of any historical group? Because here I thought we all knew nobody was time traveling.
Perhaps you can explain why you wouldn't just assume that they meant Grammar Nazis by that same token?