The South Texas School District has approved PADDLING for misbehaving children!!
The Three Rivers Independent School Board of Trustees voted unanimously 6-0 for corporal punishment where it is legal in the state of Texas and is defined as "deliberate infliction of physical pain by hitting, paddling, spanking, slapping or any other physical force used as a means of discipline"
Physical discipline doesn't work. It makes the kid hate you and want to defy you even more. I should know! I was kicked out of catholic school as a kid because I smacked a nun with a stapler because she kept smacking my hands with a yard stick.
Approving paddlin'? that's a paddlin'.
Since this is legally assault. The child could turn around and kill the teacher.
Since this is legally assault
SinisterSlay posted...
Since this is legally assault
If you're going to make shit up, at least get the correct charge. It would be either battery or simple battery, not assault.
Texas Penal Code § 22.01, et seq.
Statutory Definition of Assault
A person commits an offense if the person:
Intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly causes bodily injury to another, including the person's spouse;
Intentionally or knowingly threatens another with imminent bodily injury, including the person's spouse; or
Intentionally or knowingly causes physical contact with another when the person knows or should reasonably believe that the other will regard the contact as offensive or provocative.
XlaxJynx007 posted...
SinisterSlay posted...
Since this is legally assault
If you're going to make shit up, at least get the correct charge. It would be either battery or simple battery, not assault.
Actually, in Texas assault and battery aren't separate charges
Texas Penal Code § 22.01, et seq.
Statutory Definition of Assault
A person commits an offense if the person:
Intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly causes bodily injury to another, including the person's spouse;
Intentionally or knowingly threatens another with imminent bodily injury, including the person's spouse; or
Intentionally or knowingly causes physical contact with another when the person knows or should reasonably believe that the other will regard the contact as offensive or provocative.
This is just going off memory from a law class I took a year ago, but I think the crime is elevated to aggravated assault if a weapon is used.
You're right that paddling isn't a crime, though. Certainly not one that justifies murder.
I approve of this. Some kids need it.
wwinterj25 posted...
I approve of this. Some kids need it.
Agreed. Some kids need to have their ass spanked by their teacher with a wooden paddle
Wait.. no..
You don't think that's super fucking weird and an incredibly bad example to set? You don't think that teaches children that violence is not just okay, but okay for an adult to do to a child?
MICHALCOLE posted...
You don't think that's super fucking weird and an incredibly bad example to set? You don't think that teaches children that violence is not just okay, but okay for an adult to do to a child?
I believe it teaches a kid that every action has a consequence. It's not teaching that you can go around and hit folk for no reason. It's teaching that if you step out of line then that's a possibility.
Since this is legally assault. The child could turn around and kill the teacher.
Something those 30k a year teachers should consider before taking the risk.
You don't think that's super fucking weird and an incredibly bad example to set? You don't think that teaches children that violence is not just okay, but okay for an adult to do to a child?
I just see this as completely wrong on so many levels.
SinisterSlay posted...
Since this is legally assault. The child could turn around and kill the teacher.
Something those 30k a year teachers should consider before taking the risk.
Few things:
1) It wouldn't "legally be assault" because assault is a crime whereas this is explicitly legal, so that's fucking wrong
Hitting someone is never legal. It doesn't matter the age. Texas passed an illegal law. It's hilarious to think about it, but by the same measure, that means the kid could grab the metre stick and smash it over the teachers head in self defense. In most civilized parts of the world. Parents aren't even allowed to spank their children.
2) You're generally not allowed to kill somebody in self defense over a minor assault, so that's also wrong.
You shouldn't try to, but if you are being attacked, you are allowed to defend yourself. What that results in will usually be forgiven.
3) The people administering the punishment aren't the teachers themselves, so you have the trifecta of being completely wrong.
Oh? Funny cause the topic title says Texas has approved PADDLING forTeachers
to PUNISH Kids this coming year!!! And the poll saysDo you trust teachers to paddle children?
so forgive me for not ignoring the 2 massive obvious pointers that it's the teachers doing it.
Oh, plus their teachers likely make more than $30k/year and a lot of child are neither big enough nor strong enough to kill their teachers. Plus, even if they fought back, the kids would just get an ass-whooping at home because the parents sign off on this which means that they're okay with physical discipline themselves.
http://www.teachingdegree.org/texas/salary/Your right, my bad, they make 50k. I made more than that straight out of college, without having to beat children. But whatever.
If my kid was paddled in school, I would go out and buy a paddle, bring it to school, smack that old lady's butt with it in front of my kid, and find another school district.
That's not physical/sexual assault, it's a good old-fashioned paddling!
Why are so many posters posting as if the parents don't have to give consent?
Oh that's right. Reading comprehension is a dying skill.
wwinterj25 posted...
MICHALCOLE posted...
You don't think that's super fucking weird and an incredibly bad example to set? You don't think that teaches children that violence is not just okay, but okay for an adult to do to a child?
I believe it teaches a kid that every action has a consequence. It's not teaching that you can go around and hit folk for no reason. It's teaching that if you step out of line then that's a possibility.
I feel like it teaches me that if you do something wrong I can hurt you for retribution. Or does this only apply to children? Doesn't that seem somehow even worse? You can only hurt children if they do something wrong?
MICHALCOLE posted...
You don't think that's super fucking weird and an incredibly bad example to set? You don't think that teaches children that violence is not just okay, but okay for an adult to do to a child?
I just see this as completely wrong on so many levels.
Learn the definition of Violence:
Behavior involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something.
-strength of emotion or an unpleasant or destructive natural force.
-the unlawful exercise of physical force or intimidation by the exhibition of such force.
Yellow posted...
If my kid was paddled in school, I would go out and buy a paddle, bring it to school, smack that old lady's butt with it in front of my kid, and find another school district.
That's not physical/sexual assault, it's a good old-fashioned paddling!
SunWuKung420 posted...
Why are so many posters posting as if the parents don't have to give consent?
Oh that's right. Reading comprehension is a dying skill.
Zeus posted...
Yellow posted...
If my kid was paddled in school, I would go out and buy a paddle, bring it to school, smack that old lady's butt with it in front of my kid, and find another school district.
That's not physical/sexual assault, it's a good old-fashioned paddling!
SunWuKung420 posted...
Why are so many posters posting as if the parents don't have to give consent?
Oh that's right. Reading comprehension is a dying skill.
That's funny because it's not relevant in any way and I'd still do that if they touched my kid.
It's DIRECTLY relevant because it pertains to their ability to touch your kid, which means twice you either didn't read or didn't comprehend it
Zeus posted...
SinisterSlay posted...
Since this is legally assault. The child could turn around and kill the teacher.
Something those 30k a year teachers should consider before taking the risk.
Few things:
1) It wouldn't "legally be assault" because assault is a crime whereas this is explicitly legal, so that's fucking wrong
Hitting someone is never legal. It doesn't matter the age. Texas passed an illegal law. It's hilarious to think about it, but by the same measure, that means the kid could grab the metre stick and smash it over the teachers head in self defense. In most civilized parts of the world. Parents aren't even allowed to spank their children.
2) You're generally not allowed to kill somebody in self defense over a minor assault, so that's also wrong.
You shouldn't try to, but if you are being attacked, you are allowed to defend yourself. What that results in will usually be forgiven.
3) The people administering the punishment aren't the teachers themselves, so you have the trifecta of being completely wrong.
Oh? Funny cause the topic title says Texas has approved PADDLING forTeachers
to PUNISH Kids this coming year!!! And the poll saysDo you trust teachers to paddle children?
so forgive me for not ignoring the 2 massive obvious pointers that it's the teachers doing it.
Oh, plus their teachers likely make more than $30k/year and a lot of child are neither big enough nor strong enough to kill their teachers. Plus, even if they fought back, the kids would just get an ass-whooping at home because the parents sign off on this which means that they're okay with physical discipline themselves.
http://www.teachingdegree.org/texas/salary/Your right, my bad, they make 50k. I made more than that straight out of college, without having to beat children. But whatever.
Only a campus behaviour coordinator or principal can paddle the students
I feel like it teaches me that if you do something wrong I can hurt you for retribution.
Zeus posted...
It's DIRECTLY relevant because it pertains to their ability to touch your kid, which means twice you either didn't read or didn't comprehend it
Me telling them not to touch my kid doesn't mean much in a blunt hypothetical where they touched my kid disregarding any legal reasons why they're not allowed to touch my kid.
I also don't live in Texas or have a kid.
If they touched your kid and you paddled them, you'd get arrested. You're better off getting them fired/arrested for breaking the law instead of breaking the law yourself.
1) It wouldn't "legally be assault" because assault is a crime whereas this is explicitly legal, so that's fucking wrong
Hitting someone is never legal. It doesn't matter the age. Texas passed an illegal law. It's hilarious to think about it, but by the same measure, that means the kid could grab the metre stick and smash it over the teachers head in self defense. In most civilized parts of the world. Parents aren't even allowed to spank their children.
2) You're generally not allowed to kill somebody in self defense over a minor assault, so that's also wrong.
You shouldn't try to, but if you are being attacked, you are allowed to defend yourself. What that results in will usually be forgiven.