Current Events > Charlie Kirk killer caught?: topic 6

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Takuya_Lee
09/12/25 12:38:07 PM
#254:


DuneMan posted...
Also, you have to wonder how the younger brother's life is going to change going forward. He's going to be forever tied to the events surrounding his older brother.

Unless he moves away and changes his last name

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Alucard188
09/12/25 12:38:23 PM
#255:


So much information coming in now. I think I'll wait for somebody to summarize it in a way where I'm not scrolling through a feed for 12 hours. The biggest tell so far is Nancy Mace immediately pivoting to thoughts and prayers.

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Voidgolem
09/12/25 12:39:22 PM
#256:


WingsOfGood posted...


doesn't work on everyone

doesn't have to. They just won't listen to the people who say "we have to do something about the guns" and then proceed to Not Talk About It.

like this has happened hundreds if not thousands of times already. The only difference is it's a medium-high profile rightwing influencer that got shot and not a school, a club, a democrat, etc

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-Crissaegrim-
09/12/25 12:39:27 PM
#257:


Takuya_Lee posted...
Unless he moves away and changes his last name

In this day and age, I doubt that'd work.

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WingsOfGood
09/12/25 12:39:28 PM
#258:


eggcorn posted...
Is there a simple list of proven facts on this person somewhere? I don't want to assume anything.

yes

  1. his dad is an ex-sheriff
  2. they are a mormon family
  3. His mom and dad registered republican but he registered unaffiliated
  4. the family loves guns and there is tons of pictures of them shooting guns together and giving them as gifts
  5. possible military ties via uncle as some guns shooting suggest that with military humvee behind and that big gun but that could just be the shooting range
  6. he wore a Trump costume for halloween in 2017
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eggcorn
09/12/25 12:41:56 PM
#259:


WingsOfGood posted...
yes

1. his dad is an ex-sheriff
2. they are a mormon family
3. His mom and dad registered republican but he registered unaffiliated
4. the family loves guns and there is tons of pictures of them shooting guns together and giving them as gifts
5. possible military ties via uncle as some guns shooting suggest that with military humvee behind and that big gun but that could just be the shooting range
6. he wore a Trump costume for halloween in 2017
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Shamino
09/12/25 12:42:17 PM
#260:




Blue_Dream87 posted...
For real. I always thought it was a slightly obscure song only leftist/anti fascists would know. But pairing it with a fucking Helldivers 2 reference kinda deflates that connection.

Enix_Belmont posted...
A 1950s song with genuinely historical anti-fascist meaning is not fortunate son lol. He wasn't listening to it, he wrote it. Again, if you think he's trying to frame the left or just confuse people, sure, I could see that. But cmon. He didn't just love the way the song sounds.

Fortunate Son was a massive hit in '69, not the 50's, by Creedence Clearwater Revival, the hottest band at the time. It was written by John Fogerty.

It was a protest of the Vietnam,l war, and in particular, people of wealth who didn't have to get drafted.

It's been in countless movies, including Forrest Gump.

Nothing you've written makes any sense.

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Kaitouace
09/12/25 12:43:07 PM
#261:


Trump is officially over it.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/faed0512.jpg

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Tanthalas
09/12/25 12:43:28 PM
#262:


S the antifa and transsupport manifesto on the bullet casing was complete bullshit.

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MotaroRIP619
09/12/25 12:43:49 PM
#263:


lol everyone on my local news pages on Facebook are still trying to say hes a liberal democrat. I love it.
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nocturnal_traveler
09/12/25 12:43:57 PM
#264:


Not surprising the shooter was a right winger. And while it's expected for other right wingers to try to sweep this under the rug, the general media needs to be constantly shamed for giving up their integrity for right wing money.

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lilORANG
09/12/25 12:44:07 PM
#265:


MotaroRIP619 posted...
lol everyone on my local news pages on Facebook are still trying to say hes a liberal democrat. I love it.
Please do your part to correct them

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Takuya_Lee
09/12/25 12:44:12 PM
#266:


Kaitouace posted...
Trump is officially over it.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/faed0512.jpg

You know what that means? Time for those Epstein-Trump files!

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Voidgolem
09/12/25 12:44:24 PM
#267:


Tanthalas posted...
S the antifa and transsupport manifesto on the bullet casing was complete bullshit.

reading the "trans support" was that the bullet manufacturer print is "TRN".

truly, the world's brightest running the investigation over yonder

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Kaitouace
09/12/25 12:44:48 PM
#268:


MotaroRIP619 posted...
lol everyone on my local news pages on Facebook are still trying to say hes a liberal democrat. I love it.

The one guy on my page has definitely toned down and gone the "such a senseless tragedy" route.

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DUKLegend
09/12/25 12:45:00 PM
#269:


I'm putting my chips on groyper. If I see the name "Nick Fuentes" being on this guy's watchlist, I'm gonna lose my mind.
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RchHomieQuanChi
09/12/25 12:45:14 PM
#270:


Kaitouace posted...
Trump is officially over it.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/faed0512.jpg

It's hilarious how little of a fuck he gives about his own followers

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jefffan
09/12/25 12:45:16 PM
#271:


Alucard188 posted...
So much information coming in now. I think I'll wait for somebody to summarize it in a way where I'm not scrolling through a feed for 12 hours. The biggest tell so far is Nancy Mace immediately pivoting to thoughts and prayers.
What we now know:

22 yo from Utah
Dad either is a cop or a retired one
Brief stint at Utah State University.
Family does give kids guns for Christmas and shit and take trips to armories.
Kid dressed up as Donald Trump for Halloween one year.
4chan memes found on bullet casings.

The unknown at this point is:
1. How relevant are the memes on the bullets?
2. Did he donate to Trump in either 20 or 24?
3. Did he follow people like Nick Fuentes and Lara Loomer( who recently posted about her hatred for Kirk for backstabbing Trump)?
4. Could he maybe have changed ideology between 2020 and now?


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Kaitouace
09/12/25 12:45:57 PM
#272:


Takuya_Lee posted...
You know what that means? Time for those Epstein-Trump files!

The past two days:

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/1/10043d35.jpg

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Smashingpmkns
09/12/25 12:46:11 PM
#273:


Kaitouace posted...
Trump is officially over it.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/faed0512.jpg
I hate how funny he can be sometimes

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lilORANG
09/12/25 12:46:29 PM
#274:


Saw a pic of the alleged shooter as a happy little kid and it just kinda broke me. At what point do things just go wrong and lead them to this? I live in constant fear of fucking up my own kids.

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MotaroRIP619
09/12/25 12:47:06 PM
#275:


lilORANG posted...
Please do your part to correct them

Nah, theyre a bunch of inbred dumbfucks. Its Missouri a lost cause. I hate it here.
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Srk700
09/12/25 12:48:26 PM
#276:


JoCrazy posted...
At work, so hes a right winger?

There isnt really a hard confirmation that he is. But all the signs are pointing to him being one. Still need more info of course, but its looking very likely that he is.
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mystic_belmont
09/12/25 12:49:21 PM
#277:


lilORANG posted...
Saw a pic of the alleged shooter as a happy little kid and it just kinda broke me. At what point do things just go wrong and lead them to this? I live in constant fear of fucking up my own kids.

The internet rabbit hole and the almighty social media algorithm.

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Enix_Belmont
09/12/25 12:49:41 PM
#278:


Shamino posted...
Fortunate Son was a massive hit in '69, not the 50's, by Creedence Clearwater Revival, the hottest band at the time. It was written by John Fogerty.

It was a protest of the Vietnam,l war, and in particular, people of wealth who didn't have to get drafted.

It's been in countless movies, including Forrest Gump.

Nothing you've written makes any sense.

I'm talking about Bella Ciao. Which was written on the bullet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bella_ciao

I'm saying this song is NOT Fortunate Son, an extremely popular pop song in many movies. It's a 50's anti fascist anthem.

Someone pointed out it was in Far Cry 6 so maybe it is just a meme I'm not caught up with.

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Strider102
09/12/25 12:49:56 PM
#279:


Kaitouace posted...
Trump is officially over it.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/faed0512.jpg

He's over it because the shooter is not a "radical leftist" he and his followers spent the last day making threats against.

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Pikachuchupika
09/12/25 12:50:03 PM
#280:


lilORANG posted...
Saw a pic of the alleged shooter as a happy little kid and it just kinda broke me. At what point do things just go wrong and lead them to this? I live in constant fear of fucking up my own kids.

He's young and frequents 4chan. It's all just internet and media influence. I wouldn't be surprised if this was a stupid "For CE!" kind of stunt.
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Rob_the_Ninja
09/12/25 12:51:09 PM
#281:


DUKLegend posted...
I'm putting my chips on groyper.

Seems to be the case.
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Blue_Dream87
09/12/25 12:52:07 PM
#282:


Voidgolem posted...
reading the "trans support" was that the bullet manufacturer print is "TRN".

truly, the world's brightest running the investigation over yonder

More likely it's the bulge/OWO writing. The rifle was .30-06 round, Turan (TRN) doesn't manufacture that caliber.

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Foppe
09/12/25 12:52:11 PM
#283:


Enix_Belmont posted...
I'm talking about Bella Ciao. Which was written on the bullet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bella_ciao

I'm saying this song is NOT Fortunate Son, an extremely popular pop song in many movies. It's a 50's anti fascist anthem.

Someone pointed out it was in Far Cry 6 so maybe it is just a meme I'm not caught up with.
https://youtu.be/L7WCrGDdZVU?si=M_R8IWeIC1abfeDO

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TheGoldenEel
09/12/25 12:52:47 PM
#284:


Strider102 posted...
He's over it because the shooter is not a "radical leftist" he and his followers spent the last day making threats against.
I dont even think he knows or cares, he just doesnt give a fuck about anything but what HE wants to talk about

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WingsOfGood
09/12/25 12:53:01 PM
#285:


lilORANG posted...
Saw a pic of the alleged shooter as a happy little kid and it just kinda broke me. At what point do things just go wrong and lead them to this? I live in constant fear of fucking up my own kids.

well one things that can help prevent this is to not foster gun culture in your household

that isn't to say you can't go hunting and stuff but like the pictures speak for themselves
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Boombam99
09/12/25 12:53:42 PM
#286:


Kaitouace posted...
Trump is officially over it.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/faed0512.jpg

This should be the wake-up call to everyone who supports Trump, both politicians and voters alike. You can get blown away with a bullet through the neck, and a couple days later Trump will be talking about the new tables on his White House lawn without a care in the world
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Tyranthraxus
09/12/25 12:54:45 PM
#287:


Boombam99 posted...
This should be the wake-up call to everyone who supports Trump
Trump supporters don't do woke

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deanshow
09/12/25 12:54:54 PM
#288:


jefffan posted...
What we now know:

22 yo from Utah
Dad either is a cop or a retired one
Brief stint at Utah State University.
Family does give kids guns for Christmas and shit and take trips to armories.
Kid dressed up as Donald Trump for Halloween one year.
4chan memes found on bullet casings.

The unknown at this point is:
1. How relevant are the memes on the bullets?
2. Did he donate to Trump in either 20 or 24?
3. Did he follow people like Nick Fuentes and Lara Loomer( who recently posted about her hatred for Kirk for backstabbing Trump)?
4. Could he maybe have changed ideology between 2020 and now?
1. Its all scatter brained insanity
2. He donated to him in 2020
3. Thats unknown but its rumored hes a Nick Fuentes fan
4. Definitely possible too

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FLAMING_EVIL_HOMER
09/12/25 12:56:39 PM
#289:


deanshow posted...
1. Its all scatter brained insanity
2. He donated to him in 2020
3. Thats unknown but its rumored hes a Nick Fuentes fan
4. Definitely possible too


Thought it was proven it was somebody else with same name who donated. Please confirm before spreading

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Voidgolem
09/12/25 12:56:52 PM
#290:


it's been fascinating seeing the propaganda bots kick into high gear in real time over on twitter

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Westernwolf4
09/12/25 12:57:28 PM
#291:


lilORANG posted...
Saw a pic of the alleged shooter as a happy little kid and it just kinda broke me. At what point do things just go wrong and lead them to this? I live in constant fear of fucking up my own kids.

1.Your kids are going to do great. I dont know you, but the fact that you are worried about these things means that you love and support them, which is the biggest thing they need. Take it from a guy who raised two young men who are better than he is-you are already doing what they require most.

2.One parenting tip I will give to the world in general: strictly limiting access to firearms is the only way to go. The story for so many sad shootings seem to start with things like: and the family gave each other guns for Christmas Families avoid a lot of trouble by not doing things like that.


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Sonixs
09/12/25 12:58:12 PM
#292:


So much for him being a professional assassin from another country.
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DragulaRULEZ
09/12/25 12:58:14 PM
#293:


Maybe he uses building as a way to hide his sadness. It's like when 9/11 happened and he went strait to "I have the tallest building in NY now." Sad.

::Cut to flashback of Trump playing with Lincoln Logs as his parents say they never wanted him::

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Tyranthraxus
09/12/25 12:59:43 PM
#294:


Enix_Belmont posted...
I'm talking about Bella Ciao. Which was written on the bullet.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bella_ciao

I'm saying this song is NOT Fortunate Son, an extremely popular pop song in many movies. It's a 50's anti fascist anthem.

Someone pointed out it was in Far Cry 6 so maybe it is just a meme I'm not caught up with.

Probably doesn't have anything to do with Far Cry 6 at least not directly. It's part of a "Groyper War" playlist on Spotify and they have long been critical of Charlie Kirk.

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-Crissaegrim-
09/12/25 1:00:12 PM
#295:


Kaitouace posted...
Trump is officially over it.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/faed0512.jpg

Why would he have been mad about it? He told everyone he was fine with right wingers doing things like this and this shooter is looking like a typical right winger.


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kind9
09/12/25 1:02:18 PM
#296:


Is there hard evidence that he's actually a groyper?
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VeggetaX
09/12/25 1:02:56 PM
#297:


It can't be him! He's much too young! He's just the fall guy!

Lmao repubs wilding out

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legendary_zell
09/12/25 1:03:13 PM
#298:


Definitely looks like he was raised right wing. But he was also a college student and could have recently rebelled. We don't know enough yet.

But if he was right wing, the conspiracy theories and mass pivot to other issues on the right will be wild to see.

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DUKLegend
09/12/25 1:03:25 PM
#299:


kind9 posted...
Is there hard evidence that he's actually a groyper?

No. I was just putting my chips in that pile, not making a claim that he was. Very important to note - not jumping to conclusions.
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Blue_Dream87
09/12/25 1:03:41 PM
#300:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Probably doesn't have anything to do with Far Cry 6 at least not directly. It's part of a "Groyper War" playlist on Spotify and they have long been critical of Charlie Kirk.

Fuck why did they co opt such a good song.

https://youtu.be/oSpqj3V0s2E?si=3-reYel7gCJqc5ke

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Tyranthraxus
09/12/25 1:04:25 PM
#301:


kind9 posted...
Is there hard evidence that he's actually a groyper?

Groyper isn't an official militia with membership or anything so no there's no hard evidence but he was so into pepe memes that he dressed as one for Halloween.

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CyricZ
09/12/25 1:04:33 PM
#302:


Nancy Mace tone shifts on social media are... whiplash.

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kind9
09/12/25 1:05:09 PM
#303:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Groyper isn't an official militia with membership or anything so no there's no hard evidence but he was so into pepe memes that he dressed as one for Halloween.
I thought a groyper was any incel follower of Fuentes.
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