Board 8 > Board 8 Film Ranking Squad Ranks Animated Movies 5 - The Top Five

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Rankings so far:

30. Wish
29. Ruby Gillman, Teenage Kraken
28. The Lord of the Rings
27. Moana 2
26. Bunuel in the Labyrinth of the Turtles
25. Piece by Piece
24. Son of the White Mare
23. Migration
22. White Snake
21. Fantastic Planet
20. Transformers One
19. The Adventures of Prince Achmed
18. The Super Mario Bros Movie
17. Kensuke's Kingdom
16. Four Souls of Coyote
15. Elemental
14. The Rabbi's Cat
13. Unicorn Wars
12. Sirocco and the Kingdom of the Winds
11. Inside Out 2
10. Chicken for Linda!
9. Memoir of a Snail
8. TMNT: Mutant Mayhem
7. Wallace & Gromit: Vengeance Most Fowl
6. Mars Express

Things about to heat up!

5. Spider-Man: Across the Spiderverse

Johnbobb: 1
Lightning: 1
Inviso: 2
Ermine: 4
Mythiot: 4
Paul: 6
Karo: 10
Evillord: 19
Red: 20
Suprak: 25

Total: 92

Johnbobb: https://imgur.com/SeRWvQq
This is my 3rd (I think) time watching it, and I can just never pass up a chance to rewatch. It's so good. Amazing soundtrack, amazing use of color theory, a fantastic voice cast, some of the best animated action scenes we've ever seen in a blockbuster, funny characters, hundreds of tiny creative details, and it had the staying power to change our dialect with the idea of a canon event. But more than that, it's also quite possibly the best use of mixed media in animation that exists to this point. The sheer scope of different art styles and animation techniques seamlessly blended together here is honestly groundbreaking. It's a blast from start to finish.

Favorite 1/2 star Letterboxd review: That offstring yo-yo that Spider-Man India has would not function for string tricks. The gap is too narrow and the cups are too deep. No functioning yo-yo is that cylindrical. It would fall off the string and tilt immediately. I know its supposed to be a bracelet but you can make a more circular yo-yo that would function better and also work better as a yoyo

Lightning: Lets do things differently this time

While I was watching this the first time and the Guggenheim sequence was playing with its sheer dynamism and clashing art styles existing somehow seamlessly with each other I genuinely wondered if I was watching the greatest film ever made. This is in large part because all of that spectacle was already being underlined by some incredibly dynamic action and fantastic character development. When Into the Spider-Verse came out it was such a drastic shift in what animation could do visually. In fact you could see competitors trying to catch up over time. Then four and a half years later this film comes out and gives us another seismic shift in animation visuals. What this film does by mixing different art styles including both 2D and 3D animation (and even some live action footage) and visual effects is truly remarkable. There has never been another film that looks like this, not even the original.
The story too goes in some really interesting directions that expand on the original. I really must praise the inclusion of The Spot here. My understanding is this is an absolutely nothing character from the comics who was suggested for this movie by Avi Arad for some reason and seems like an absolute joke. Yet they play him here brilliantly, with him at first seeming like a comic relief villain but then gradually increasing to a truly horrifying threat. That last shot of him is breathtaking. The film also advances Miles and Gwens storylines in some interesting ways, dealing with their romance but also feelings of lack of purpose and social exclusion. Gwens arc here is fantastic as she reconciles with her father and finds herself and her people. Of course there is also a whole city of Spider-Man variants and some great jokes to provide some laughs to go with the serious narrative.
Which leads to the ending. The first time I saw this film, when that To Be Continued hit, there were groans in the cinema. But, these groans were followed by excited whispers of what was to come next, it is a cliffhanger that makes you want more rather than feel dissatisfied. Furthermore, to me the ending does satisfyingly conclude the story, specifically Gwens story that bookends the film. The Miles storyline is given just enough with him starting to fight back against the other Mikes to keep you enticed on that storyline. This to me is enough to make this a great ending. Overall I cant call this anything less than one of the best animated films of all time.

5/5

Inviso: Yeah, Im pretty sure the first movie in this thrillogy topped my ranking for whichever of the animated lists we watched it under, and Across the Spiderverse is another home run as far as Im concerned. Once again, the animation style is BEAUTIFUL, while having fun with the switches and transitions from universe to universe. The Donald Glover cameo is amazing, by the way. But yeah, the first movie is a great intro (as Spider-Man films usually are), but I think the follow-up is vital, and Across the Spiderverse introduces a major problem to be solved, and suddenly we have family drama and interpersonal conflict, and theres also the general idea behind the multiverse itself and what changes you can make without disturbing the timeline too much. Plus, I generally like the chemistry between Miles and Gwen, and how theres that awkward teenaged romance while trying to maintain bonds due to being otherwise isolated. And of course the whole sequence of Peter versus the Spider-Legion was amazing, all culminating in a twist-ish ending that makes me SO upset the sequel isnt out yet. But still, this is an amazing film, and Im hoping Beyond makes the franchise three-for-three.

Ermine: A spectacle like no other, Miles Morales returns!
The humor is good. The characters are good. The animation is incredible. The storytelling is awesome. This is just a great sequel through and through except for a couple missteps.

Im not normally someone who is bothered by cliffhangers, I think they can be great if used correctly! For this film though, it just feels out of place and absolutely seems like they just ran out of time and had to just slap in the ending of the film in the best spot that they could. And now we are what waiting another 2 WHOLE YEARS to see the conclusion? When it came out over 2 year ago already! Not to mention the awful working conditions for all the artists. I suppose theyll just get more people to work to the bone.
Another downside that sort of stood out to me is that I feel like so many of the sequences flash by so quickly you can barely even tell what you are looking at before it moves onto the next bit. This is especially atrocious in the sequences that involve comic book cut ins. I think these are visually amazing and so cool to look at but when you have them on the screen for half a second, it becomes incredibly difficult to appreciate it in full. You can only be so artistic before it becomes bloated and I did feel a bit of bloat in that regard. I think its a poor choice to have these sequences fly by so quickly that the only way to truly appreciate them is to pause the film to see whats going on.
I also DO feel that the Gwen parts in the beginning are a little drawn out. She almost feels more like the main character of the film than Miles does, at least in some parts. Everything with Gwen is fine and I enjoyed her struggles, but when you put so much work into Miles character and life and relationships, again, it feels a bit bloated when you try to put just as much into another character, especially so since the movie comes in at nearly a 2 and a half hour runtime.
Id say some of the issues I have with this film are close to nitpicky. I still think the film is an absolute marvel but at the end of the day, I still preferred the first movie. I miss my Spider-Ham! It looks like well have him back for the third film, whenever that happens, I guess.

Mythiot: 9.5

Paul: I'm generally a big Spider-Man fan and I really like both of the Spiderverse movies. The animation is as good as ever and the chase scene is so great to watch. I didnt mind the cliffhanger ending, but it's crazy that the finale was supposed to be released over a year ago.

Karo: Miles' confrontation with a new self-styled nemesis spirals quickly into a multiverse-level conflict, and thus they must call in the Spider-MultiverseCops, run by Shadow the Hedgehog in a Spiderman costume and dedicated to protecting the sacred spider-story and its spider-uncle genocide. Most of Miles' old friends are conveniently members of this society, which in order to keep a low footprint and minimize damage to space-time, is like a thousand members strong.
See, with the TVA I could really get their mission even if it was a bit horrifying, it was simple and easy to understand. Here it is like 'Your dad needs to die because reasons. Are we going to explain those reasons? Not really, but suck it up buttercup or the world will end'. Miles is understandably not amused and an epic spider-fight breaks out as he tries to escape to his home world in order to save his father.
Most of the new Spider-People were either very forgettable, or just existed to do their one gag and fade into obscurity. The one exception was Hogie, an anarchist Spiderman who steals every scene he is in.
Of the old multiverse travelers, Only Gwen really does much in the story, Peter is around attempting to be about as good of dad as he was a mentor by bringing his preschooler daughter into combat, and the others have very brief cameos.
But the real star in terms of new characters is a goofy, bumbling supervillain called 'The Spot', who serves as the movie's eventual primary antagonist. I've always wanted a story where a silly D-tier rouge gained unlimited power and used it to lash out at all those who made fun of him, and it is executed to perfection here.
While the visual style still looks cool, it doesn't feel as fresh in the way the first movie did, especially after so many years of everyone trying to copy it.
But the biggest problem I have with this movie is its ending, or rather its complete lack of one. Now, these types of endings in TV shows are perfectly fine. They help to bring long form storytelling into a medium with heavy time constraints. When we get this kind of multi-parting in movies such as Lord of the Rings or Dune, we usually get some sort of secondary resolution to divide the films, and promptly release the next part no later than next year. Here? We get a stupid 'tune in next time, same bat channel' scene immediately after a gigantic revelation, and the movie abruptly cuts to credits. But never fear! We shall find out what happens very soon... in 2027! Maybe! George R R Martin would be proud.

Evillord: I'm known for not being the biggest fan of the first Spider-Verse movie. If you removed my rankings from Board 8 Ranks Animated Movies 3, Spider-Verse would've wound up in an easy first place instead of being the runner-up to Wolfwalkers (itself a movie I wasn't that happy to see win.) I'll be very up front and say that going into this list, my biggest hope for the results was that ANY film that wasn't Across the Spider-Verse would be #1. It could even be Wish, at least that would be a noteworthy result. That being said, even I look back at my old ranking for Spider-Verse - 26th out of 40 and below Trolls World Tour - and wonder what the fuck I was smoking. So while my *hope* was that Spider-Man would place anywhere below first place, my *goal* was to rate it with integrity based on how much I enjoyed it compared to other films on the list.
Now that I've seen it, though, I feel like my hopes and my goals are (somewhat) compatible and I can happily put this thing around the halfway point and see where we get. Let's be clear, there are plenty of good things about this film. There is a great sense of energy to the whole thing, a ton of creative animation choices, little stylistic touches that give life to each moment of the film, it's packed with details and references that comic fans can have fun pointing out, and it *is* fun to see all the different ideas for multiverses and their Spider-Men. One of the highlights for this reason is the big fight scene where Miles is running away from every other Spider-Man. You get to see T-Rex Spider-Man, cat Spider-Man, British Punk Spider-Man, dad Spider-Man who is actually the chubby Peter Parker from the first movie, and about a million other Spider-Men running around in the background in shots that go a long way to explain why the producers had to mistreat their animators to get this out in 2023. I respect the animation, but I will say that subjectively the film's look and atmosphere don't appeal to me as much as, say, Robot Dreams, or Flow, or Chicken for Linda. I'd say my relatively lukewarm opinion of the movie comes down to a few things: I'm not particularly into these characters or this story, no one in the film ever stops talking, and the pacing rarely slows down enough to let the story breathe.
I remember that I wasn't a huge fan of the version of Kingpin that the first film presented - he was kind of an uncharismatic ranting bad guy. The "main villain" this time is a character named Spot, who conceptually is more interesting: he is a victim of the events of the first film whose body consists of holes in reality which he can use to travel through dimensions and bend the laws of physics. Spot is a very talkative, sarcastic villain, though, and when he's quipping, and Spider-Man is quipping, and there are multiple other versions of Spider-Man quipping about how much they're quipping, I find myself missing the contrast provided by the more straight-faced Kingpin and, if I'm remembering right, the Nicolas Cage Spider-Man. Yes the joking around is on brand, and it's not even poorly written, but when every character, both the teens and the 40 year olds, are constantly bantering like this in each of the many action sequences in this nearly 3 hour film I do start to find it very tiring, and it's probably one of the reasons I had to take a few breaks to get through this thing. I also just don't particularly feel like this story deals with anything all that real. Yes it touches on themes like grief, guilt, sacrifice, and familial alienation, but the handling of these subjects ultimately feels shallow, very superhero comic melodrama that doesn't evoke strong feelings, and what moments of deeper meaning there are - I actually really enjoyed the scene where Miles and Gwen were roaming around NYC together and all the cool animation tricks were being used in service of a quiet character building moment for a change - are drowned out by loud, bombastic, but ultimately meaningless concepts like "canon events" and holes in multiversal space time. For me at least, it just lacked the charm or pathos that defined a lot of the films on the list and wound up being more exhausting than anything.
I think it's very interesting to think about how the cliffhanger ending affected the reception of this movie. I still think it's scoring an easy first place on our aggregate list, because there aren't really any other movies that feel like they will be consistently liked by almost everyone who participates, but it's funny to think that if we ranked it in a few years, when the sequel has already resolved that cliffhanger, its chances would probably be even better. I don't mind that it left the story unfinished and waiting for the sequel, but I do think they chose kind of an underwhelming note to leave viewers with, where Miles is in the middle of what feels like a sidequest, even if it does have some emotional relevance to the big gotcha that Canon Event guy hit him with in the Spider-Man base about his existence being an anomaly in the multiverse or some shit. Ultimately I can't complain about the cliffhanger though, because the last thing I wanted was this movie to go on even longer.

Red: I don't know that I've ever been so angry at the ending of the movie. Everything just kind of ends, the entire movie a setup for a sequel years off. They just forgot that they should have some sort of satisfying conclusion for the audience. Nothing is resolved. This is literally a middle evolution Pokmon in movie form. You've got remnants of the first movie, some threads for where the third is going, and at the end of the day you look at this thing and its a garbled mess. I just don't understand how they decided that resolving absolutely nothing was going to be a good idea. The first movie had a groundbreaking animation style and was fun, this movie is just more of the same except they decided to just abandon having a proper plot structure.

Suprak: *no writeup submitted*

Outlier:

Suprak: 190
Paul: 185
Johnbobb: 167
Ermine: 164
Evillord: 159
Karo: 145
Inviso: 144
Red: 139
Mythiot: 101
Lightning: 98

... Whoops

Oh yikes

Dag yo. I knew it wasn't going to win, but I did think it would get at least 3rd or 4th.

Holy cats!!!

I...really dig this, it means we're getting an interesting winner!

LOL

That felt like the expected #1 or at least top 2 given how it has been generally praised. Not even top 4.

Pretty clever how nobody, not even the two who ranked it in the bottom third of thirty films, guessed it for Vegas Odds so as to throw the rest of us off the trail.

Holding with Nimona for tomorrow I guess!

I have my own problems with the ending but damn, three bottom half rankings is wild.

I honestly thought that was going to get like six number 1s.

I didn't mention it in my write up, but holy crap Peter B Parker was just so awful in this second film.

I haven't watched the first in awhile, but surely he wasn't this bad. The character literally devolved into "I have a baby! Look everyone, I have a baby! Isn't she cool?"

Fuck off.

GenesisSaga posted...

Pretty clever how nobody, not even the two who ranked it in the bottom third of thirty films, guessed it for Vegas Odds

Paul guessed it

Zigzagoon posted...

The character literally devolved into "I have a baby! Look everyone, I have a baby! Isn't she cool?"

This is just what being single at 30 and talking with your friends feels like.

Yeah, of all the movies to rank low, that definitely wasn't one of them.

:O

I dont think I've ever been more dissatisfied with the ending of a movie.

Then I will counter that and say actually the ending is great and satisfyingly concludes the real story of the film which is Gwens arc.

LightningStrikes posted...

Then I will counter that and say actually the ending is great and satisfyingly concludes the real story of the film which is Gwens arc.

Seconding this, actually find it wild to be upset with the ending. It's still stands entirely absolutely well on its own while still setting up for the 3rd one.

It's like saying Infinity War is bad for ending on a cliffhanger.

Infinity War had a climax.

Yeah, I understand being upset with a cliffhanger if the third movie were cancelled, but this is just how serial storytelling works, and I think there's enough emotional satisfaction at the end to make it feel like a complete installment.

Wow, we actually did it. This definitely feels like it opens things up a bit, maybe some of the other films that seemed untouchable can go down too... though with only 3 #1 placements accounted for now I'm a little scared that everyone just showered The Wild Robot with first place rankings instead of the expected Spider-Man.

I guess I'll stay on Nimona for vegas.

I mean so does this film, the whole crazy Spider-Society chase and escape followed by that big twist. Honestly structurally this is very similar to Infinity War, even down to the bookend shot of the central character but this time smiling.

I mean, I feel like Spiderverse had a climax in the same way. You have Miles realizing that for continuity's sake, he has to sit back and let his dad die, he fights against this, and he escapes a legion of Spider-Men who are trying to ensure he let's that death happen. He gets away, and Gwen also has her catharsis by reconciling with her dad and vowing to protect Miles rather than stick to the "law" being imposed on her.

It's just that the movie then follows that climax with some cliffhangers involving Miles ending up in the wrong universe, which makes sense to sell the third film.

Leafeon13N posted...

Infinity War had a climax.

Yeah I do think the Spider-Verse ending feels a lot more abrupt and underwhelming than that of Infinity War. IF ends on a more easily understandable note of "holy shit Thanos whooped the Avengers' asses" while Spider-Man does feel more like the first half of a TV 2-parter asking "How will Miles get himself out of this one???"

I wasn't being sneaky I thought everyone else would have this in the top five!

Spider-Man: Across the Spiderverse (2023) C-

I dont know for sure, but I feel like this is the movie that is going to win this which is a shame because I think it is kind of not great. Im fully anticipating being the lowest ranker on this, which is fine because based on the people I know and the scores this gets on Rotten Tomatoes and imdb and all the awards it has received, I am the only person in America that isnt a huge fan of this movie. Im not going to lead any angry internet campaigns or shake you by your shoulders and scream that youre wrong because there is stuff about this movie I do actually really like so I at least get why people are enamored by this. The art style is great. I love the animation here. Miles Morales is fantastic as a character. The movie does a great job capturing that young spiderman vibe that is always fun and they do it with a character that doesnt feel like hes 35. The family dynamic stuff resonates really well and when it is focusing on that, I do agree it is a very very very good movie. Theres just too much other bloat around it that I spend most of the movie hoping they eventually get back around to the stuff I like.

First off, fuck whoever it is that made multiverses a thing. Every version of that person, across every multiverse, needs to be brought together in a room and beaten with a wiffle bat until they apologize. I hate multiverses. You know that one terrible horror movie we saw last list that was like oh you dig on multiverses??? Im the opposite of that guy. Multiverses are one of my least favorite tropes because so much of it always breaks down into stupid gags and easter eggs that just get thrown in your face without any actual context. Hey look at all these stupid fucking spidermen! the movie says before a parade of gags that are meant to make nerds giggle with glee. Its Ben Reilly! Remember what an emo dork he is? Look its a LEGO Spiderman! Hes LEGO how silly! Theres a horse Spiderman and a rocker spiderman and a spiderman with three kids and four mortgages that doesnt know how to make ends meet and a Spiderman with dicks for fingers who moans when he shoots his web and hes from a multiverse where no one gets subtlety so they had to make the puberty thing way more obvious. I do not care how many stupid Spidermen you want to show me. I dont like 99% of these Spidermen and do not want to waste screentime so they can be the Spiderman I dont want to see in this movie. I even dislike most of the main spidermen variants here. Fuck Spiderman with a baby. All my homies hate Spiderman with a baby. Miles Morales is fantastic and punk Spiderman is fun and then every other Spiderman can go back to their own universe and stop bloating the runtime of this film.

There is so much focus on all the weird Spidermans that you do not even get to the crux of this film into an hour and a half in. The whole hey your dad also needs to die for reasons that arent clear because of multiverse timey-wimey bullshit is really the main thing of this film, but we have all these various asides before that in this movie that, quite frankly, isnt even finished. I get cliffhangers are a thing but I only like cliffhangers if I enjoy the journey to get to them. This is a two and a half hour movie that is not a complete thing and now you have to wait four years (hopefully) to see the conclusion. I had a lot of these same problems with the first Spiderverse movie, but that one was a complete movie. There are ways that you can frame and position a movie in a trilogy like this that is meant to be continued from one part to the next where it doesnt feel like the second movie is just one big set up for a third film that I havent even seen yet and may not see. It is hard to rank this in general because I dont know exactly where it is going. What if the third film is just duck nosies? What if the third film introduces duck Spiderman from the duck universe and it is nothing but quacking noises for two hours? So much of this movie is set up without payoff and maybe that payoff is going to be shit. I dont know, and with so much left up in the air I cant even tell how good the set up here is.

There are a lot of bits here I dont care about or care about less than I probably should because of the way the movie is structured. Poor Spot. IM NOT VILLAIN OF THE WEEK!!! he yells before the movie shelves him for a full hour to ramble on about the stuff it is actually interested in talking about. Spot is less a villain and more a plot device that is only there to serve as a way to link all the multiverse stuff together. You get the sense the writers googled spiderman villains other dimension powers please help and thats why this third tier Spiderman villain found its way into the movie. Hes not even the real villain, which is the sad part for a character that spends half of his screentime whining hes not being taken seriously as a villain. Hes barely developed and every single scene with him kind of plays out the same way. He doesnt even get his story resolved yet, either, and hes one of the many things that they punt to the final film. It would be nice if they at least resolved this one bit of it but it gets too busy with so many plotlines about halfway through the movie they just cant.

I guess there is probably one other reason he gets crammed in here and that is because he is extremely visually interesting and leads to a lot of fun looking scenes. This is one of the ultimate style over substance movies for me where I do not like a lot of the story stuff but adore the way it looks. The Spot fight scenes are just fun. Pure chaotic nonsense splashing all over the place, but it is fun chaotic nonsense. This movie is sugar rush, the film, which does get a bit much sometimes but is largely a lot of fun. Everything feels like it is going at 100 mph and things are falling and flying and there are disparate art styles and bright colors and it all looks like what you see before you pass out because the g forces are too high. Some things are so chaotic I cant quite follow and some of the insanity does begin to blend together after a while. I dont know if we need a ten minute Spider-chase scene especially when so much of it felt redundant, but I cant deny it looks fun. I feel like they almost needed to tone it down a bit or have someone edit some of these scenes slightly, but most of the action scenes are at least fun so I cant complain too much.

I almost feel bad ranking this one so low because I know a lot of people like it and I have to assume it is going to be in everyone elses top 5. Im sorry everyone. I know Im no fun. This is two different kinds of movies I dont like and my least favorite type of superhero story crammed into one thing. Ive had too many superheros and too many spidermen movies and too many multiverse movies in the past five years and I just cannot take any of this any more. There is stuff here I like but there is a lot more bloat you have to fight your way through to get to the actually good bits. And it is bloat without resolution, making it feel somehow even worse. This was a rewatch for me and at least slightly better than I remember it the first time where I was really disappointed. It definitely isnt the worst movie on the list, but one of only a handful that was hard for me to get through in one go and I did need to pause this and walk away for a bit a couple of times. Fun character, fun art style, not so fun everything else.

Evillordexdeath posted...

Yeah I do think the Spider-Verse ending feels a lot more abrupt and underwhelming than that of Infinity War. IF ends on a more easily understandable note of "holy shit Thanos whooped the Avengers' asses" while Spider-Man does feel more like the first half of a TV 2-parter asking "How will Miles get himself out of this one???"

Yeah what i have to say on Infinity War is that it is very clearly a Thanos movie.

His entire journey is complete with the film.

PrinceKaro posted...

Paul guessed it

Whoops. Ok well this late high stakes entry was enough for him to enter the Leaderboard in 5th!

Yeah I'm not sure if that is the best example because I wouldn't say Infinity War was a cliffhanger. Thanos just won. Now, you knew they were going to undo that in the sequel, but that story is very much done at that point.

Ill just say it: I like multiverses, they are a good tool for storytelling when used correctly and I dont think theres multiverse fatigue. Look at all the recent MCU films to actually hit big, its all the multiverse films even Doctor Strange 2 which was middling. People like it. And you can make great art from it like Everything Everywhere All At Once. When multiverses are used poorly it is because they are either making things impossible to follow or are used to totally remove the stakes by making it so characters can never die. But we are not at that point in cinema yet.

Evillordexdeath posted...

Yeah I do think the Spider-Verse ending feels a lot more abrupt and underwhelming than that of Infinity War. IF ends on a more easily understandable note of "holy shit Thanos whooped the Avengers' asses" while Spider-Man does feel more like the first half of a TV 2-parter asking "How will Miles get himself out of this one???"

Just to note, Infinity War does also end on How will Tony and Nebula get themselves out of this one???.

Leafeon13N posted...

Yeah what i have to say on Infinity War is that it is very clearly a Thanos movie.

His entire journey is complete with the film.

Yeah, and the same is true of Across the Spider-Verse and Gwen. Her journey completes with the film, she even bookends it.

You really need to stretch to argue Gwen the main character.

LightningStrikes posted...

Then I will counter that and say actually the ending is great and satisfyingly concludes the real story of the film which is Gwens arc.

If a movie goes like two-thirds of its runtime without focusing on its "real story" at all, is it really that surprising if the audience is much less invested in that part? Can it even be called the real story?

I do remember initially being very upset with the ending because I went in blind like I always at least attempt to do, only to find Miles' story ended on the biggest cliffhanger; but eventually, after realizing that this was indeed Gwen's story about finding her place in the Spiderverse, I eventually softened on it. Resolving things with her dad was a fine and very sweet conclusion to the film, if not for the trilogy. Speaking of which, the absolute balls Sony Animation had to even think for a second Beyond the Spider-Verse was coming out in 2024 pissed me off even more. Still a great movie though. My heart will always have a bigger home for the first movie, but this was a fine sequel.

I can see differences in movie opinions and preferences and stuff

but I feel like to an extent it is hard for me to even wrap my head around ranking that in the bottom third of this list

Leafeon13N posted...

You really need to stretch to argue Gwen the main character.

The film literally begins and ends with her! We dont even meet Miles until twenty minutes in.

Johnbobb posted...

I can see differences in movie opinions and preferences and stuff

but I feel like to an extent it is hard for me to even wrap my head around ranking that in the bottom third of this list

My number one was someones number thirty. It happens.

I actually feel a bit better seeing red and exdeath had it around where I did because I wouldve felt bad if it was just me that was the difference between the 1st and 2nd place finish.

Yea you guys can all be wrong together

I think we can settle with just me being right this time. *nod*

I know Nimona can't pull this off, so I really hope my second favorite Flow will win this. Nothing against the other two, as I love the entire quartet, but I think they're both a half step down.

I'm going for points and saying The Wild Robot drops next.

VEGAS ODDSBOARD:

+800 Nimona
+1000 Robot Dreams
+1600 Flow
+1600 The Wild Robot

Leaderboard:

1) Mythiot 3050 (Elemental +650, Inside Out 2 +1400, Mars Express +1000)
2) Suprak 3000 (Transformers One +1000, The Super Mario Bros Movie +800, TMNT Mutant Mayhem +1000, Karos #30 +200)
2) Great_Paul 3000 (Mars Express +1000, Spider-Man Across the Spider-Verse +2000)
4) GenesisSaga 2500 (Elemental +650, TMNT Mutant Mayhem +1000, Karos #30 +200, Wallace & Gromit Vengeance Most Fowl +650)
5) red13n 2300 (Elemental +650, The Rabbis Cat +650, Mars Express +1000)
6) Evillord 1650 (The Adventures of Prince Achmed +800, Karos #30 +200, Wallace & Gromit Vengeance Most Fowl +650)
7) paulg 1300 (The Rabbis Cat +650, Wallace & Gromit Vengeance Most Fowl +650)
8) Inviso 1200 (TMNT Mutant Mayhem +1000, Karos #30 +200)
9) HanoftheNekos 650 (Unicorn Wars +650)

The House Won On:

+650 Fantastic Planet
+800 Kensukes Kingdom
+1000 Four Souls of Coyote
+650 Sirocco and the Kingdom of Winds
+1200 Chicken for Linda!
+650 Memoir of a Snail

With some big guesses Paul rockets up from eighth to second. Anybody can still win though. Lets see those guesses!

Wild takes in here.

Sticking with Robot Dreams

I picked Spiderverse as a hail mary just in the chance that some people didn't like the ending.

+1000 Robot Dreams

Sticking with Robot Dreams.