Current Events > Kamala Harris has a book she wants to sell

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ai123 posted...

Every prominent politician gets a lot of offers for book deals. Despite what people are saying, most of the ones by current figures sell pretty well (exception: Liz Truss). For example, all political journalists, wonks, interns, and assorted hangers on will buy them. A lot of people will get them as gifts ('hey, I remembered you liked her'). Newspapers pay for serialisation. Libraries stock them for reference.

Of course, she has to do her part by offering up something salacious or scandalous. Preferably both.

They don't even write the books most of the time. A ghostwriter asks them questions. It's pretty easy to understand why every one of them has books all the fucking time.

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Yeah. I feel like no matter what angle she takes, it will be a depressing read. Either she talks about the energy and excitement of the campaign that completely falls flat on election day or she throws a bunch of advisors under the bus and talks about how underneath things weren't as copacetic and either way I'll be raging knowing that we're now stuck with Trump

Board_hunter567 posted...

The bigger problem was people refusing to accept that the ones pointing out the problems with the population's economic outlook, along with Biden's dwindling health and popularity long before he dropped out, weren't doomers working undercover for Trump. The swing states decided the election and, even though Harris got more votes than Biden in them, they made their decision based off costs of living and immigration and voted for Trump more. Hard data from voting results and exit polls backs these claims up. Continuing to deny this and blame online leftists and Gaza is not doing anything to solve the problem.

Yes, and he's getting shit on by moderates and the billionaires. That can't work for a presidential run.

I can think of a very good reason not to run Zohran for President, tbqh

Board_hunter567 posted...

Moderates would never come out to vote for them and billionaires would bankroll the opposition in amounts previously unfathomable.

So, if you don't like popular moderate candidates, and you don't like popular leftist candidates... Do you just want Republicans to win? Is that the underlying factor in this?

ngl, this is actually one of the better ideas for a book I think than we usually get from these people.

We might get some insight on whatever the **** happened to her spine midway through her campaign. We can maybe get some info on whoever said "hey all this stuff you're doing that seems to be working really well? yeah stop all of it."

I don't believe we will, but it would potentially be an interesting thing for the book to be about.

ThisIsAKnoife posted...

It just speaks to the out of touch / status quo criticism most people have with Dems in general. The problem is exactly that its typical.

People want real change which is how Trump started (oh hes not a career politician hes a regular guy!!).

So the goal is to call out the one person who predicted the mess we'd be if they weren't elected?

She's a private citizen she can do what she wants. We don't know what the book is going to say. I would assume she will talk about current events and go on a tour talking about it. That could (maybe) do a lot of good, if people would actually listen instead of feign outrage.

Tyranthraxus posted...

They don't even write the books most of the time. A ghostwriter asks them questions. It's pretty easy to understand why every one of them has books all the fucking time.

Oh yeah, none of them actually write the books. They don't have the day to day recollection, nor any of the required ability.

The portrayal of Selena Meyer doing her memoir in season 6 (?) of Veep is pretty close to the mark. Except she doesn't use a competent ghost. Basically, the ghost gets all the diaries and schedules, plus a few sit down interviews and a 6 month deadline.

Board_hunter567 posted...

The bigger problem was people refusing to accept that the ones pointing out the problems with the population's economic outlook, along with Biden's dwindling health and popularity long before he dropped out, weren't doomers working undercover for Trump. The swing states decided the election and, even though Harris got more votes than Biden in them, they made their decision based off costs of living and immigration and voted for Trump more. Continuing to deny this and blame online leftists and Gaza is not doing anything to solve the problem.

Yes, and he's getting shit on by moderates and the billionaires. That can't work for a presidential run.

And I think the initial question posed to those people from before the election is still apt even today? Is abandoning the Dems because they're old and weak preferable to allowing the Republicans to win and allow the country to be ran by a pedophile rapist felon that ran on a platform of removing Medicare/aid, wanted to accelerate the destruction of Palestine and Gaza, wanted to round up immigrants in our communities and put them in camps, and ran on dismantling our federal institutions such as FEMA, the department of education, etc etc really the better outcome than just putting up a feckless Dem?

Cause idk man, whatever the fault of Dems is it's still a critical error to completely focus on the fault of one party while ignoring the faults of another. It's not the dems fault American voters are stupid and self destructive, that's entirely on them.

Zohran was born in Uganda. He's constitutionally ineligible to run for President. There's no point discussing him for higher office than Governor

LightSnake posted...

Zohran was born in Uganda. He's constitutionally ineligible to run for President. There's no point discussing him for higher office than Governor

He can also run for Senate. He can't be the pro tempore but he can still go there.

HashtagSEP posted...

So, if you don't like popular moderate candidates, and you don't like popular leftist candidates... Do you just want Republicans to win? Is that the underlying factor in this?

I'd be fine with a popular moderate candidate. Biden and Harris were popular but not where it mattered, the swing states, who gave us plenty of warnings they weren't going to vote for either of them that were ignored. Lord knows they spent enough money trying to persuade them but it was all for naught. The only thing a candidate needs to do is figure out what makes those temperamental babies happy, but unfortunately the only thing that seems to work is when Republicans screw them over so badly that the Republican voters living there abstain from voting entirely out of frustration. And then, when they're angry at Democrats again because their jobs still pay like shit, they'll vote Republican.

Tyranthraxus posted...

He can also run for Senate. He can't be the pro tempore but he can still go there.

Higher "Executive" I should've said

LightSnake posted...

Zohran was born in Uganda. He's constitutionally ineligible to run for President. There's no point discussing him for higher office than Governor

Wasn't suggesting he specifically run for president, just that anyone like him who is eligible would face the same obstacles.

The point is we need people that are young, charismatic and energetic to win. People think Trump is charismatic and love hearing him speak. People on CE seem to forget you have to sell your ideas to the voter base. People don't like Kamala Harris, people don't like Biden and people want the establishment gone. They believe Democrats are the establishment. Democrats are the enemy that will steal your money and ruin America. The media says they are, influencer say they are.
Humble_Novice posted...

These people are partially why voters decided not to vote blue to begin with. If all they do is bitch and whine about the Democrats 24/7, then is it any wonder why other people around them start to think they're less preferable than Republicans? I've even seen many folks attempt to gaslight others into thinking they never threatened to withhold their votes because of Gaza.

Are you the same guy who claims anyone who criticizes democrats are just as bad as Trump supporters? You make a million topics blaming Democrat voters for her defeat. You offer no solutions, nothing other then "KEEP VOTING BLUE" despite that never working. You don't live in reality you live in a fantasy world. Wake up and realize even if we all voted it'd just make our defeat worse. If Trump blatantly lying about Haitian Immigrants did nothing to dissuade people then nothing would have. The average American decided "Yup! Trumps a man of the people! MAGA!!!".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders_Guide_to_Political_Revolution

Dio posted...

Are you the same guy who claims anyone who criticizes democrats are just as bad as Trump supporters? You make a million topics blaming Democrat voters for her defeat. You offer no solutions, nothing other then "KEEP VOTING BLUE" despite that never working

Oh look, the troll finally speaks. Here to keep on blaming Democrats for EVERYTHING?

A_Good_Boy posted...

And I think the initial question posed to those people from before the election is still apt even today? Is abandoning the Dems because they're old and weak preferable to allowing the Republicans to win and allow the country to be ran by a pedophile rapist felon that ran on a platform of removing Medicare/aid, wanted to accelerate the destruction of Palestine and Gaza, wanted to round up immigrants in our communities and put them in camps, and ran on dismantling our federal institutions such as FEMA, the department of education, etc etc really the better outcome than just putting up a feckless Dem?

Ask moderates, as some data analysis shows they were the ones who decided to sit out the election more than the purity testers.

A_Good_Boy posted...

Cause idk man, whatever the fault of Dems is it's still a critical error to completely focus on the fault of one party while ignoring the faults of another. It's not the dems fault American voters are stupid and self destructive, that's entirely on them.

It's not, but it is their job to figure out how to work with it. They get paid well enough for it but they keep screwing up.

Humble_Novice posted...

Here's

Lol. I'm a troll for what now? Criticizing Democrats makes me a troll? Lmao. I've voted Blue since Obama. I voted blue in my local elections and helped rally support in a deep red county.

Board_hunter567 posted...

Ask moderates, as some data analysis shows they were the ones who decided to sit out the election more than the purity testers.

There goes the statistics to avoid personal accountability thing again. But whatever, the abandon voters got their wish and Dems lost and were abandoned. You'd figure they'd be happy with the outcome, yet everyday is filled with endless bitching.

A_Good_Boy posted...

No I'm pretty sure we're in this mess partly cause people spent all of their energy being critical of and calling out Dem politicians all the way into November and would never stop despite knowing the opposition was Trump. And when asked what the point of purity testing the better politician mere moments before an election kept calling everyone genocide supporters and kept on being dismissive of the consequences.

The people that youre talking about think theyre getting what they want with Trump winning, which is the collapse of western hegemony.

A_Good_Boy posted...

There goes the statistics to avoid personal accountability thing again. But whatever, the abandon voters got their wish and Dems lost and were abandoned. You'd figure they'd be happy with the outcome, yet everyday is filled with endless bitching.

You're telling me.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/c/c9bc53fb.jpg

Whoever runs that Twitter account is one of the stupidest motherfuckers on the Internet.

Harris's campaign and consultants should be audited.

How do you spend over a billion dollars, only to lose every swing state AND the popular vote? There needs to be accountability for that level of failure.

A_Good_Boy posted...

There goes the statistics to avoid personal accountability thing again. But whatever, the abandon voters got their wish and Dems lost and were abandoned. You'd figure they'd be happy with the outcome, yet everyday is filled with endless bitching.

Abandon voters were ultimately inconsequential or limited to coastal states that still went overwhelming blue anyway. Like, that Twitter account has less then 10k followers. Am I supposed to believe they had any effect on the election? I don't care what they do or think because if they never existed Harris would still have lost.

Should have wrote a book on rampant stupidity and it's effects on a population.

Because it's something everyone would need to read.

Board_hunter567 posted...

Abandon voters were ultimately inconsequential or limited to coastal states that still went overwhelming blue anyway. Like, that Twitter account has less then 10k followers. Am I supposed to believe they had any effect on the election? I don't care what they do or think because if they never existed Harris would still have lost.

But they still exist though, right? If I were to account for all the reasons why Harris lost they'd still make the list though, wouldn't they? And out of all of the people comprised of the demographics that contributed to why Harris lost, the nationally insignificant ones just so happen to be the overwhelmingly largest representative of people that post on CE to this day, aren't they? And since I can't speak to a statistic but I can speak to a person then why wouldn't I talk shit about those people in a forum where they can see the criticism?

Damn man, I'm still just sitting here confused when statistics ever become an acceptable way to avoid personal accountability. It's so weird that people here insist on that shit lol. You'd think our abandon voters would be super happy to take credit for the shit they spent over a year advocating for. If I spent all of my time rooting against a politician and their party and they lost I'd be shouting that shit up and down and wouldn't let people forget it yet our abandon voters just stay hiding like cowards lol.

CastletonSnob1 posted...

Harris's campaign and consultants should be audited.

How do you spend over a billion dollars, only to lose every swing state AND the popular vote? There needs to be accountability for that level of failure.

Maybe you can't spend your way to victory when your opponent has a 100 percent recognition rating

Strider102 posted...

Should have wrote a book on rampant stupidity and it's effects on a population.

Because it's something everyone would need to read.

Some of the clowns wouldn't get past the excerpt before deciding it sucks and walking back into their echo chamber.

Look at West Virginia and Hillary Clinton.

dont we all...

CastletonSnob1 posted...

Harris's campaign and consultants should be audited.

How do you spend over a billion dollars, only to lose every swing state AND the popular vote? There needs to be accountability for that level of failure.

I suggest you look into what Election Truth Alliance has found from election data. There's plenty of suspicious things they found and have reported on.

jefffan posted...

Some of the clowns wouldn't get past the excerpt before deciding it sucks and walking back into their echo chamber.

Look at West Virginia and Hillary Clinton.

Bold of you to assume theyd read the excerpt

McMarbles posted...

Bold of you to assume theyd read the excerpt

True, probably couldn't get past the first word.

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That's really what was so depressing. It seemed as if the first few weeks of Kamala Harris's campaign really did bring some fresh energy, and I really liked Walz as a running mate too. And to find out that she not only lost the general election, but that it wasn't even remotely close in any of the swing states, was incredibly depressing.

SSj4Wingzero posted...

That's really what was so depressing. It seemed as if the first few weeks of Kamala Harris's campaign really did bring some fresh energy, and I really liked Walz as a running mate too. And to find out that she not only lost the general election, but that it wasn't even remotely close in any of the swing states, was incredibly depressing.

If they had kept up the kind of energy they had in the first few weeks throughout the election then we wouldn't have Trump.

Biggest mistake the Harris campaign made if you ask me was their rightward shift and more cooperative messaging.

Dems need to stop this tactic of trying to get the disaffected Republican vote, it doesn't exist so stop trying to get it. What they need is to focus where the energy is, on the left.

Enclave posted...

If they had kept up the kind of energy they had in the first few weeks throughout the election then we wouldn't have Trump.

Biggest mistake the Harris campaign made if you ask me was their rightward shift and more cooperative messaging.

Dems need to stop this tactic of trying to get the disaffected Republican vote, it doesn't exist so stop trying to get it. What they need is to focus where the energy is, on the left.

There aren't enough leftists to pull it off, blatantly. And the argument that "Leftists turned out" shows that, too.

The issue isn't "Disaffected Republicans," it's moderate swing voters.

Books are always too whitewashed and too late. You can have your book but you should have spoken up a long time ago.

LightSnake posted...

There aren't enough leftists to pull it off, blatantly. And the argument that "Leftists turned out" shows that, too.

The issue isn't "Disaffected Republicans," it's moderate swing voters.

It's not about the number of leftists, it's about the energy, the excitement. The moderates don't know what they want, Trump winning the popular vote makes that super clear. They'll go where the excitement is, they'll go where the strength is.

Board_hunter567 posted...

It's not, but it is their job to figure out how to work with it. They get paid well enough for it but they keep screwing up.

You can't work with stupid. It's just not possible. The voters had two choices, and even though one of those choices laid it out how horrible they would be, people still weren't convinced on what to do. If people were smart, Democrats wouldn't have to try at all to win voters, given who the opposition was. That's not on the Democrats that people chose to be stupid.

If November was any typical pre-2016 election, yeah, blame Democrats for not doing a good enough job, that's fine. But last November was not a typical election by any stretch, which is why blaming Democrats 100% on how it went down is ridiculous. We counted on people to not be stupid and vote the wrong way, and they let us down. Whose fault is that?

Enclave posted...

It's not about the number of leftists, it's about the energy, the excitement. The moderates don't know what they want, Trump winning the popular vote makes that super clear. They'll go where the excitement is, they'll go where the strength is.

I do not believe "they'll go for Trump" is the "they will actually go for leftists" argument you can make when the one person to defeat Trump was Biden. Also, the idea Trump ran an energetic or exciting campaign....frankly, I do not buy thay. His campaign was dull, lifeless, and rambling. Trump stood on stage and swayed to music for 30 minutes and delivered incomprehensible babbling when he did talk.

Moderates overwhelmingly believed Harris was too far left and didn't pay attention till a week before the election. This is just thinking something that appeals to you will appeal to everyone because of things that are impossible to quantify like "energy."

MAybe AOC will win the primary and if she does, it's because normie Dems love her for being perceived as "a fighter." or it'll be Pritzker, who has been staking out that lane, too.

LightSnake posted...

I do not believe "they'll go for Trump" is the "they will actually go for leftists" argument you can make when the one person to defeat Trump was Biden.

Moderates overwhelmingly believed Harris was too far left and didn't pay attention till a week before the election. This is just thinking something that appeals to you will appeal to everyone because of things that are impossible to quantify like "energy."

MAybe AOC will win the primary and if she does, it's because normie Dems love her for being perceived as "a fighter." or it'll be Pritzker, who has been staking out that lane, too.

Biden didn't beat Trump, Covid beat Trump.

Enclave posted...

Biden didn't beat Trump, Covid beat Trump.

Every election will deal with those specific factors that lead to it. You can say inflation beat Harris

Enclave posted...

Biggest mistake the Harris campaign made if you ask me was their rightward shift and more cooperative messaging.

That probably wasn't a great move, but I'm not sure it would have won them the election. In many of the swing states that Harris lost, she actually earned more votes than Biden did when Biden won those states back in 2020, so it's not like she lost a ton of Biden voters. It's just that a lot more people came out to vote for Trump. I do not know what more the Harris campaign could have done when Trump literally bungled a pandemic worse than ever and somehow didn't lose any voters.

StarFighters76 posted...

You can't work with stupid. It's just not possible. The voters had two choices, and even though one of those choices laid it out how horrible they would be, people still weren't convinced on what to do. If people were smart, Democrats wouldn't have to try at all to win voters, given who the opposition was. That's not on the Democrats that people chose to be stupid.

If November was any typical pre-2016 election, yeah, blame Democrats for not doing a good enough job, that's fine. But last November was not a typical election by any stretch, which is why blaming Democrats 100% on how it went down is ridiculous. We counted on people to not be stupid and vote the wrong way, and they let us down. Whose fault is that?

Well said, stupidity and Trump was the enemy here, not Democrats.

StarFighters76 posted...

You can't work with stupid. It's just not possible. The voters had two choices, and even though one of those choices laid it out how horrible they would be, people still weren't convinced on what to do. If people were smart, Democrats wouldn't have to try at all to win voters, given who the opposition was. That's not on the Democrats that people chose to be stupid.

If November was any typical pre-2016 election, yeah, blame Democrats for not doing a good enough job, that's fine. But last November was not a typical election by any stretch, which is why blaming Democrats 100% on how it went down is ridiculous. We counted on people to not be stupid and vote the wrong way, and they let us down. Whose fault is that?

That's the part that's so frustrating. I can't fault Democrats for not throwing money at the problem because they did, swing states specifically. The question is did they spend that money the wrong way or is it a lost cause? If it's the latter then it truly doesn't matter what they do, which is probably not what the takeaway should be. That's why some choose to believe it's something the Democrats are doing wrong rather than complete and utter hopelessness.

People wanted scapegoats and easy answers. Guess who has them.

LightSnake posted...

Every election will deal with those specific factors that lead to it. You can say inflation beat Harris

And she could have combated being tarred with inflation by separating herself from Biden more instead of saying things like she wouldn't have done anything different. It was like she wasn't trying at all at times and it was infuriating to watch her completely fumble the early lead she had.

Enclave posted...

And she could have combated being tarred with inflation by separating herself from Biden more instead of saying things like she wouldn't have done anything different. It was like she wasn't trying at all at times and it was infuriating to watch her completely fumble the early lead she had.

She won the people who were actually engaged and hearing that. It's people who were googling if Biden dropped out a week before the election that were the issue.

The initial lead was illusory.