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Tyranthraxus 07/16/25 2:33:57 PM #53:	Zikten posted... True. Isnt the barbarian queen character like 14 in the book? They had to age her up for the show I'd have to double check but I think she was 13 when given over to Drogo but 12 when the book started and Viscerys sexually assaults her in her first scene. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:985790326] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>Zikten posted... </cite><quote>True. Isnt the barbarian queen character like 14 in the book? They had to age her up for the show</quote>I'd have to double check but I think she was 13 when given over to Drogo but 12 when the book started and Viscerys sexually assaults her in her first scene.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pokedude900 07/16/25 2:35:36 PM #54:	Frankly it should be illegal for payment processors to dictate what people can and can't use their services for (provided the transaction is legal itself, of course). They are an absolute necessity to conduct business online. As things are now, they have complete control over what kind of business can be conducted and can shut down anything they don't like. That or we need some sort of internationally supported method of transferring money digitally that any individual or business can use as they please. --- https://i.imgur.com/lfI7zGE.jpg https://i.imgur.com/tgLNUuX.jpg Come to the (un)official GameFAQs Touhou board. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1110- <cite>pokedude900 posted [p:985790348] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>Frankly it should be illegal for payment processors to dictate what people can and can't use their services for (provided the transaction is legal itself, of course). They are an absolute necessity to conduct business online. As things are now, they have complete control over what kind of business can be conducted and can shut down anything they don't like.That or we need some sort of internationally supported method of transferring money digitally that any individual or business can use as they please.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeeathLivesOn 07/16/25 2:35:40 PM #55:	Fuck these payment processors tbh They've been throwing their weight around too much, and are just side-channel attacking the adult industry Yeah, I see the chargeback fraud, but I highly doubt that's the only or biggest reason they're been going so hard on this stuff for the last several years. --- 'Just sitting around the house tonight w my dog. Felt like I should be doing something important, but couldn't put my finger on it.' - Phil Kessel on USA snub <cite>HeeathLivesOn posted [p:985790350] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>Fuck these payment processors tbhThey've been throwing their weight around too much, and are just side-channel attacking the adult industryYeah, I see the chargeback fraud, but I highly doubt that's the only or biggest reason they're been going so hard on this stuff for the last several years.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Board_hunter567 07/16/25 2:36:15 PM #56:	pokedude900 posted... Dude. They're works of fiction. If the content was illegal, they wouldn't be on the storefront in the first place. Payment processors wouldn't have to have these policies in the first place. I'm not arguing for or against it, just pointing out patterns. Adult content creators and platforms inevitably run into problems with incest, bestiality, age play, and SA due to the wishy-washy legality of such content. Payment processors are not going to figure out which regions and subregions will allow it and instead do a blanket ban. It was only a matter of time before Steam got too big to ignore, especially with the advent of AI. Tyranthraxus posted... If these laws against "depictions of CP and incest" were anywhere near as solid as people on the Internet claim they are, GRRM would have been imprisoned for Game of Thrones. The book, not the show. Intent and context still matters. I know judges are easy to make fun of but most people can and will recognize the difference between what A Song of Ice and Fire is about and what Fuck Your Hentai Daughter After School Quest BDSM Story is about. ~~I'm not being funny with the names btw there's hundreds of them on Steam with titles like that~~ --- http://i.imgur.com/szMsu.png Validate your purchases and discredit the purchases of others whenever possible. Numbers objectively define quality and enjoyment. <cite>Board_hunter567 posted [p:985790359] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>pokedude900 posted... </cite><quote>Dude. They're works of fiction. If the content was illegal, they wouldn't be on the storefront in the first place. Payment processors wouldn't have to have these policies in the first place.</quote>I'm not arguing for or against it, just pointing out patterns. Adult content creators and platforms inevitably run into problems with incest, bestiality, age play, and SA due to the wishy-washy legality of such content. Payment processors are not going to figure out which regions and subregions will allow it and instead do a blanket ban. It was only a matter of time before Steam got too big to ignore, especially with the advent of AI.Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>If these laws against "depictions of CP and incest" were anywhere near as solid as people on the Internet claim they are, GRRM would have been imprisoned for Game of Thrones. The book, not the show.</quote>Intent and context still matters. I know judges are easy to make fun of but most people can and will recognize the difference between what A Song of Ice and Fire is about and what Fuck Your Hentai Daughter After School Quest BDSM Story is about.I'm not being funny with the names btw there's hundreds of them on Steam with titles like that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FFTHEWINNER 07/16/25 2:36:46 PM #57:	Turbam posted... Pretty ridiculous, honestly. I guess this means that there will just be an uncensored patch for most of those games from here on out. --- WHO AM I?FFTHEWINNER. WHO ARE YOU?URTHELOSER http://i.imgur.com/xgSex.png <cite>FFTHEWINNER posted [p:985790370] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>Turbam posted... </cite><quote>Pretty ridiculous, honestly.I guess this means that there will just be an uncensored patch for most of those games from here on out.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid_Sonic 07/16/25 2:37:53 PM #58:	pokedude900 posted... That or we need some sort of internationally supported method of transferring money digitally that any individual or business can use as they please. >_> Well I'm sure you're aware that there is a solution but it's a huge can of worms in its own right... --- Remember: it's time for games to cost $100. ...WAIT, I WASN'T READY!! <cite>Solid_Sonic posted [p:985790384] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>pokedude900 posted... </cite><quote>That or we need some sort of internationally supported method of transferring money digitally that any individual or business can use as they please.</quote>>_>Well I'm sure you're aware that there is a solution but it's a huge can of worms in its own right...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nemu 07/16/25 2:38:36 PM #59:	Steams whole approval system is quite moronic. Its absolutely fine to have standards of what they will and wont publish, but they dont have standards. It is all just up to whatever random decides on a given day. <cite>Nemu posted [p:985790392] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>Steams whole approval system is quite moronic. Its absolutely fine to have standards of what they will and wont publish, but they dont have standards. It is all just up to whatever random decides on a given day. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PerseusRad 07/16/25 2:39:38 PM #60:	Payment processors have too much power. Theyre private, but theyre also ubiquitous, I dont really think they should be treated like any other business. <cite>PerseusRad posted [p:985790410] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>Payment processors have too much power. Theyre private, but theyre also ubiquitous, I dont really think they should be treated like any other business.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 07/16/25 2:39:58 PM #61:	Honestly I don't see any reason why we can't just have universal ACH transfers. Give people a QR code to set up payee information in their banking app and just send money as needed. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:985790428] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>Honestly I don't see any reason why we can't just have universal ACH transfers. Give people a QR code to set up payee information in their banking app and just send money as needed. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid_Sonic 07/16/25 2:42:47 PM #62:	PerseusRad posted... Payment processors have too much power. Theyre private, but theyre also ubiquitous, I dont really think they should be treated like any other business. So essentially like utility companies. --- Remember: it's time for games to cost $100. ...WAIT, I WASN'T READY!! <cite>Solid_Sonic posted [p:985790491] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>PerseusRad posted... </cite><quote>Payment processors have too much power. Theyre private, but theyre also ubiquitous, I dont really think they should be treated like any other business.</quote>So essentially like utility companies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Board_hunter567 07/16/25 2:45:23 PM #63:	Tyranthraxus posted... Honestly I don't see any reason why we can't just have universal ACH transfers. Give people a QR code to set up payee information in their banking app and just send money as needed. Alternatively set it up so that they can only be purchased with Steam Wallet funds. --- http://i.imgur.com/szMsu.png Validate your purchases and discredit the purchases of others whenever possible. Numbers objectively define quality and enjoyment. <cite>Board_hunter567 posted [p:985790519] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>Honestly I don't see any reason why we can't just have universal ACH transfers. Give people a QR code to set up payee information in their banking app and just send money as needed.</quote>Alternatively set it up so that they can only be purchased with Steam Wallet funds.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 07/16/25 2:48:16 PM #64:	Board_hunter567 posted... Alternatively set it up so that they can only be purchased with Steam Wallet funds. That seems like the simplest solution. "These games aren't for sale. They can only be exchanged with account balance." --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:985790561] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>Board_hunter567 posted... </cite><quote>Alternatively set it up so that they can only be purchased with Steam Wallet funds.</quote>That seems like the simplest solution. "These games aren't for sale. They can only be exchanged with account balance." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pokedude900 07/16/25 2:56:47 PM #65:	Pretty sure other sites have tried a store-credit-only system before and still got shot down by the payment processors. Because it's not about the chargebacks. --- https://i.imgur.com/lfI7zGE.jpg https://i.imgur.com/tgLNUuX.jpg Come to the (un)official GameFAQs Touhou board. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1110- <cite>pokedude900 posted [p:985790656] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>Pretty sure other sites have tried a store-credit-only system before and still got shot down by the payment processors. Because it's not about the chargebacks.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Cynrascal 07/16/25 3:09:00 PM #66:	Can't folks use Steam prepaid cards to circumvent that? --- Asocial, not introverted. Know the difference. In a capitalist society, money and life are one and the same. <cite>Cynrascal posted [p:985790780] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>Can't folks use Steam prepaid cards to circumvent that?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 07/16/25 3:17:06 PM #67:	Cynrascal posted... Can't folks use Steam prepaid cards to circumvent that? Not at the moment. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:985790853] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>Cynrascal posted... </cite><quote>Can't folks use Steam prepaid cards to circumvent that?</quote>Not at the moment. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dungeater 07/16/25 4:03:14 PM #71:	Financial Institutions and Credit Cards continue their war on sexuality. This is the latest in a long line of their victories. --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. He/Him <cite>Dungeater posted [p:985791422] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>Financial Institutions and Credit Cards continue their war on sexuality. This is the latest in a long line of their victories. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 07/16/25 4:09:54 PM #72:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Here's a comprehensive overview of why payment processors don't like adult content. https://knowledge.everc.com/blog/mitigating-the-risks-associated-with-offering-adult-content I didn't see any NSFW media on that site. I hope it's not secretly there and being blocked by my ad blocker. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:985791491] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Here's a comprehensive overview of why payment processors don't like adult content. https://knowledge.everc.com/blog/mitigating-the-risks-associated-with-offering-adult-contentI didn't see any NSFW media on that site. I hope it's not secretly there and being blocked by my ad blocker. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 07/16/25 4:19:11 PM #74:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Steam has extremely low charge back rate I imagine because they will literally ban your account if you do it, but like I said earlier they don't make rules for Steam. They make them for everyone. The push is probably shareholder driven but seeing as they're seemingly only cleaning up trash shovelware, this is probably more for appearances than anything else. Steam is an incredibly safe merchant as far as payment processors are concerned. They just need something to show to the payment processors that they're diligent in complying with the rules. RIP Furry Hitler --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:985791601] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Steam has extremely low charge back rate I imagine because they will literally ban your account if you do it, but like I said earlier they don't make rules for Steam. They make them for everyone. The push is probably shareholder driven but seeing as they're seemingly only cleaning up trash shovelware, this is probably more for appearances than anything else. Steam is an incredibly safe merchant as far as payment processors are concerned. They just need something to show to the payment processors that they're diligent in complying with the rules.RIP Furry Hitler</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GhostFaceLeaks 07/16/25 4:23:58 PM #76:	Most people won't pay attention to this since so far it is porn games. Which is what the Payment Processors want so they can move to other games they find "obscene" including those with LGBT content. --- "Do you like Scary movies?" <cite>GhostFaceLeaks posted [p:985791659] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>Most people won't pay attention to this since so far it is porn games. Which is what the Payment Processors want so they can move to other games they find "obscene" including those with LGBT content.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 07/16/25 4:27:14 PM #77:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] I can't really find any information on fraud rates & to boot there's not really a lot of places you can even just buy furry porn in the first place. Most of the money exchanged comes in the form of artist commissions. There are Murrsuit streamers though. I think a place like OnlyFans isn't going to want to make public fraud rates as it might hurt their business so who knows how bad the fraud problem really is. We have only the word of the payment processors that the fraud rate is higher than any other industry but don't really know what that means and their words aren't exactly trustworthy. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:985791701] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> I can't really find any information on fraud rates & to boot there's not really a lot of places you can even just buy furry porn in the first place. Most of the money exchanged comes in the form of artist commissions.There are Murrsuit streamers though. I think a place like OnlyFans isn't going to want to make public fraud rates as it might hurt their business so who knows how bad the fraud problem really is. We have only the word of the payment processors that the fraud rate is higher than any other industry but don't really know what that means and their words aren't exactly trustworthy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FL81 07/16/25 4:30:20 PM #79:	the war on horny continues --- https://i.imgur.com/TGkNCva.gif https://i.imgur.com/8mWCvA4.gif <cite>FL81 posted [p:985791744] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>the war on horny continues</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 07/16/25 4:30:31 PM #80:	GhostFaceLeaks posted... Most people won't pay attention to this since so far it is porn games. Which is what the Payment Processors want so they can move to other games they find "obscene" including those with LGBT content. Payment processors have been doing this for years now and there's still petabytes of LGBT sex content on the Internet so I think people are off the mark on this one. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:985791747] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>GhostFaceLeaks posted... </cite><quote>Most people won't pay attention to this since so far it is porn games. Which is what the Payment Processors want so they can move to other games they find "obscene" including those with LGBT content.</quote>Payment processors have been doing this for years now and there's still petabytes of LGBT sex content on the Internet so I think people are off the mark on this one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Board_hunter567 07/16/25 4:53:45 PM #81:	GhostFaceLeaks posted... Most people won't pay attention to this since so far it is porn games. Which is what the Payment Processors want so they can move to other games they find "obscene" including those with LGBT content. Payment processors aren't the ones pushing for these changes. If there's money to be made they want in on it. If LGBT content gets banned it will be done via the government, so in the event it does happen we'd have a lot more to worry about than adult entertainment. --- http://i.imgur.com/szMsu.png Validate your purchases and discredit the purchases of others whenever possible. Numbers objectively define quality and enjoyment. <cite>Board_hunter567 posted [p:985792021] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>GhostFaceLeaks posted... </cite><quote>Most people won't pay attention to this since so far it is porn games. Which is what the Payment Processors want so they can move to other games they find "obscene" including those with LGBT content.</quote>Payment processors aren't the ones pushing for these changes. If there's money to be made they want in on it.If LGBT content gets banned it will be done via the government, so in the event it does happen we'd have a lot more to worry about than adult entertainment.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Powdered_Toast 07/16/25 6:10:06 PM #82:	Tyranthraxus posted... The payment processors make rules for all their clients. They aren't giving valve a special exception because things are different there. Fraud is bad enough when you get caught paying for regular porn. Furry shit probably gets refunded even more. Not on steam per se, just in general. The fraud angle sounds like a cope. Anybody that's been paying attention saw this coming. Visa and Mastercard have been doing this for years. There are a couple of activist groups that have been going after Steam over violent and sexual content for years now, the sort that want anything that isn't a wholesome all ages experience to be completely banned. Real Jack Thompson types. I'd be willing to bet that they had a part in forcing the issue with payment processors. Right now most of the shit that was taken down was just shovelware, but next month it will be the good stuff, or games that aren't even porn. There was a Chinese Ace Attorney clone that got taken down with no notification to to the developers at the same time. I was just talking to some adult game devs about this and it looks like they're going after predominantly stuff that is "in your face" like Furry Hitler. After cleaning out a bunch of shovelware to satisfy the payment processors things will go back to normal. That game's still available, though. --- Want some rye? 'Course ya do! <cite>Powdered_Toast posted [p:985792810] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>The payment processors make rules for all their clients. They aren't giving valve a special exception because things are different there. Fraud is bad enough when you get caught paying for regular porn. Furry shit probably gets refunded even more. Not on steam per se, just in general.</quote>The fraud angle sounds like a cope. Anybody that's been paying attention saw this coming. Visa and Mastercard have been doing this for years. There are a couple of activist groups that have been going after Steam over violent and sexual content for years now, the sort that want anything that isn't a wholesome all ages experience to be completely banned. Real Jack Thompson types. I'd be willing to bet that they had a part in forcing the issue with payment processors.Right now most of the shit that was taken down was just shovelware, but next month it will be the good stuff, or games that aren't even porn. There was a Chinese Ace Attorney clone that got taken down with no notification to to the developers at the same time. <quote>I was just talking to some adult game devs about this and it looks like they're going after predominantly stuff that is "in your face" like Furry Hitler. After cleaning out a bunch of shovelware to satisfy the payment processors things will go back to normal.</quote>That game's still available, though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 07/16/25 6:15:02 PM #83:	Powdered_Toast posted... That game's still available, though. That was just an example and it's not clear how long that'll be true anyway. Here's a sample of some of the shit that was removed. I think most people will agree this isn't really a big deal: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/ef929b68.jpg --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:985792857] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>Powdered_Toast posted... </cite><quote>That game's still available, though.</quote>That was just an example and it's not clear how long that'll be true anyway. Here's a sample of some of the shit that was removed. I think most people will agree this isn't really a big deal: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/e/ef929b68.jpg</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mad-Dogg 07/16/25 6:20:09 PM #84:	Solid_Sonic posted... Becauuuuuuse...? That did kind of shift the issue back to "we don't like it" less so "it's causing us problems." I would like to think its because the furry fandom is constantly getting into some very terrible controversies and so credit card companies like mastercard is not trying to be associated with them. I'm expecting VRchat related purchases or whatever is next for them since it seems like every other week I'm listening in about some more VRchat degenerates grooming underage kids or whatever. --- GTag:MadDogg730 PSN:lMadDogg NNID:xMadDoggx NS friend code:5313-0564-0819 Go buy cyber shadow like right now. <cite>Mad-Dogg posted [p:985792913] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>Solid_Sonic posted... </cite><quote>Becauuuuuuse...? That did kind of shift the issue back to "we don't like it" less so "it's causing us problems."</quote>I would like to think its because the furry fandom is constantly getting into some very terrible controversies and so credit card companies like mastercard is not trying to be associated with them. I'm expecting VRchat related purchases or whatever is next for them since it seems like every other week I'm listening in about some more VRchat degenerates grooming underage kids or whatever.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 07/16/25 6:21:13 PM #85:	Mad-Dogg posted... I would like to think its because the furry fandom is constantly getting into some very terrible controversies and so credit card companies like mastercard is not trying to be associated with them. I'm expecting VRchat related purchases or whatever is next for them since it seems like every other week I'm listening in about some more VRchat degenerates grooming underage kids or whatever. I highly doubt VR Chat has a bigger problem with grooming than Roblox --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:985792930] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>Mad-Dogg posted... </cite><quote>I would like to think its because the furry fandom is constantly getting into some very terrible controversies and so credit card companies like mastercard is not trying to be associated with them. I'm expecting VRchat related purchases or whatever is next for them since it seems like every other week I'm listening in about some more VRchat degenerates grooming underage kids or whatever.</quote>I highly doubt VR Chat has a bigger problem with grooming than Roblox </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rika_Furude 07/16/25 6:22:56 PM #86:	Mad-Dogg posted... I would like to think its because the furry fandom is constantly getting into some very terrible controversies and so credit card companies like mastercard is not trying to be associated with them. I'm expecting VRchat related purchases or whatever is next for them since it seems like every other week I'm listening in about some more VRchat degenerates grooming underage kids or whatever. This always seems like the weirdest excuse, ngl like, if theres some sort of furry controversy, I am extremely skeptical if even one single individual anywhere in the world thought damn you Mastercard for allowing furries to purchase that <cite>Rika_Furude posted [p:985792942] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>Mad-Dogg posted... </cite><quote>I would like to think its because the furry fandom is constantly getting into some very terrible controversies and so credit card companies like mastercard is not trying to be associated with them. I'm expecting VRchat related purchases or whatever is next for them since it seems like every other week I'm listening in about some more VRchat degenerates grooming underage kids or whatever.</quote>This always seems like the weirdest excuse, ngllike, if theres some sort of furry controversy, I am extremely skeptical if even one single individual anywhere in the world thought damn you Mastercard for allowing furries to purchase that </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mad-Dogg 07/16/25 6:32:53 PM #87:	Rika_Furude posted... This always seems like the weirdest excuse, ngl like, if theres some sort of furry controversy, I am extremely skeptical if even one single individual anywhere in the world thought damn you Mastercard for allowing furries to purchase that That really is how some random people think, lol. Its stupid yeah. Either that, or just flat out guilty by association. "This insert degenerate thing here wouldn't have happened if mastercard and visa allowed the sale to go through. Blood is on their hands, or they are racist/sexist/etc. for allowing this thing to happen. They support insert thing here because they did nothing!". Etc. Its similar to how nintendo backs away from the smash community every time some sort of controversy is blowing up on social media. Like of course these companies isn't at fault for the kind of shit the worst degenerates get up to, but then its a fact that some people really will try to sue for just about anything and so the company just does not want to deal with all that. I see that brief list of games posted with post #83 and it could be for money chargeback reasons, but imo is more than likely a mastercard does not want to be anywhere near the same universe to being associated with all those games with incest and rape in the game's name kind of thing. --- GTag:MadDogg730 PSN:lMadDogg NNID:xMadDoggx NS friend code:5313-0564-0819 Go buy cyber shadow like right now. <cite>Mad-Dogg posted [p:985793055] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>Rika_Furude posted... </cite><quote>This always seems like the weirdest excuse, ngllike, if theres some sort of furry controversy, I am extremely skeptical if even one single individual anywhere in the world thought damn you Mastercard for allowing furries to purchase that</quote>That really is how some random people think, lol. Its stupid yeah. Either that, or just flat out guilty by association. "This insert degenerate thing here wouldn't have happened if mastercard and visa allowed the sale to go through. Blood is on their hands, or they are racist/sexist/etc. for allowing this thing to happen. They support insert thing here because they did nothing!". Etc.Its similar to how nintendo backs away from the smash community every time some sort of controversy is blowing up on social media. Like of course these companies isn't at fault for the kind of shit the worst degenerates get up to, but then its a fact that some people really will try to sue for just about anything and so the company just does not want to deal with all that.I see that brief list of games posted with post #83 and it could be for money chargeback reasons, but imo is more than likely a mastercard does not want to be anywhere near the same universe to being associated with all those games with incest and rape in the game's name kind of thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mad-Dogg 07/16/25 6:49:49 PM #88:	Tyranthraxus posted... I highly doubt VR Chat has a bigger problem with grooming than Roblox They might just be even. Both are packed full to the brim of adults preying on kids. --- GTag:MadDogg730 PSN:lMadDogg NNID:xMadDoggx NS friend code:5313-0564-0819 Go buy cyber shadow like right now. <cite>Mad-Dogg posted [p:985793211] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted... </cite><quote>I highly doubt VR Chat has a bigger problem with grooming than Roblox</quote>They might just be even. Both are packed full to the brim of adults preying on kids. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ellis123 07/16/25 7:16:03 PM #89:	Mad-Dogg posted... They might just be even. Both are packed full to the brim of adults preying on kids. Unlikely. Roblox is on a whole other level compared to everything else. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. <cite>ellis123 posted [p:985793449] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>Mad-Dogg posted... </cite><quote>They might just be even. Both are packed full to the brim of adults preying on kids.</quote>Unlikely. Roblox is on a whole other level compared to everything else.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 07/16/25 7:25:44 PM #90:	HANGtheDJ_86 posted... Think of the chill der in Why are banks and credit card institutions issuing credit cards to children? --- If you need the threat of eternal damnation to be a good person, you're just a bad person on a leash. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:985793534] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>HANGtheDJ_86 posted... </cite><quote>Think of the chill der in</quote>Why are banks and credit card institutions issuing credit cards to children?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Board_hunter567 07/16/25 7:50:51 PM #91:	008Zulu posted... Why are banks and credit card institutions issuing credit cards to children? They would if they could --- http://i.imgur.com/szMsu.png Validate your purchases and discredit the purchases of others whenever possible. Numbers objectively define quality and enjoyment. <cite>Board_hunter567 posted [p:985793747] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>008Zulu posted... </cite><quote>Why are banks and credit card institutions issuing credit cards to children?</quote>They would if they could</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid_Sonic 07/17/25 7:42:50 AM #92:	Voidgolem posted... Gooning is occupying a weird liminal space where gooners lack enough shame to avoid making online spaces weird Based on my most recent moderation it's harder than you think... --- Remember: it's time for games to cost $100. ...WAIT, I WASN'T READY!! <cite>Solid_Sonic posted [p:985797833] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>Voidgolem posted... </cite><quote>Gooning is occupying a weird liminal space where gooners lack enough shame to avoid making online spaces weird</quote>Based on my most recent moderation it's harder than you think...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IceCreamOnStero 07/17/25 8:00:52 AM #93:	Where did this even come from? Is it some moral panic? Surely if it's a "think of the kids" situation, you'd go after the fact these digital marketplaces have effectively an honor system of age validification rather than payment processors? --- Dokkan ID: 2365415872 <cite>IceCreamOnStero posted [p:985797936] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>Where did this even come from? Is it some moral panic? Surely if it's a "think of the kids" situation, you'd go after the fact these digital marketplaces have effectively an honor system of age validification rather than payment processors?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid_Sonic 07/17/25 8:02:04 AM #94:	IceCreamOnStero posted... Where did this even come from? Is it some moral panic? Surely if it's a "think of the kids" situation, you'd go after the fact these digital marketplaces have effectively an honor system of age validification rather than payment processors? I don't think we actually know but a few theories have been posted in here. I still stand by my "corporate image" theory (which has a couple of supporters throughout here). The actual reason is rather obfuscated. --- Remember: it's time for games to cost $100. ...WAIT, I WASN'T READY!! <cite>Solid_Sonic posted [p:985797940] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>IceCreamOnStero posted... </cite><quote>Where did this even come from? Is it some moral panic? Surely if it's a "think of the kids" situation, you'd go after the fact these digital marketplaces have effectively an honor system of age validification rather than payment processors?</quote>I don't think we actually know but a few theories have been posted in here. I still stand by my "corporate image" theory (which has a couple of supporters throughout here).The actual reason is rather obfuscated.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GhostFaceLeaks 07/17/25 8:20:39 AM #95:	Powdered_Toast posted... Right now most of the shit that was taken down was just shovelware, but next month it will be the good stuff, or games that aren't even porn. There was a Chinese Ace Attorney clone that got taken down with no notification to to the developers at the same time. Keep an eye on certain games like Baldurs Gate 3, The Coffin of Andy and Leyley, and famous Visual Novels like Muv-Luv or Steins;Gate. If any of those get taken down the it is proof that anything is on the table even if some people may want them off Steam. It'll show just how far they are willing to go now. --- "Do you like Scary movies?" <cite>GhostFaceLeaks posted [p:985798036] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>Powdered_Toast posted... </cite><quote>Right now most of the shit that was taken down was just shovelware, but next month it will be the good stuff, or games that aren't even porn. There was a Chinese Ace Attorney clone that got taken down with no notification to to the developers at the same time.</quote>Keep an eye on certain games like Baldurs Gate 3, The Coffin of Andy and Leyley, and famous Visual Novels like Muv-Luv or Steins;Gate. If any of those get taken down the it is proof that anything is on the table even if some people may want them off Steam. It'll show just how far they are willing to go now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tripleh213 07/17/25 8:45:08 AM #96:	GhostFaceLeaks posted... Keep an eye on certain games like Baldurs Gate 3, The Coffin of Andy and Leyley, and famous Visual Novels like Muv-Luv or Steins;Gate. If any of those get taken down the it is proof that anything is on the table even if some people may want them off Steam. It'll show just how far they are willing to go now. That would suck --- Bucks World Champions 2021 PS4 looks great <cite>tripleh213 posted [p:985798178] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>GhostFaceLeaks posted... </cite><quote>Keep an eye on certain games like Baldurs Gate 3, The Coffin of Andy and Leyley, and famous Visual Novels like Muv-Luv or Steins;Gate. If any of those get taken down the it is proof that anything is on the table even if some people may want them off Steam. It'll show just how far they are willing to go now.</quote>That would suck</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mad-Dogg 07/17/25 9:01:40 AM #97:	GhostFaceLeaks posted... Keep an eye on certain games like Baldurs Gate 3, The Coffin of Andy and Leyley, and famous Visual Novels like Muv-Luv or Steins;Gate. If any of those get taken down the it is proof that anything is on the table even if some people may want them off Steam. It'll show just how far they are willing to go now. Don't forget masterpieces like anonymous agony. Anonymous agony must be preserved. --- GTag:MadDogg730 PSN:lMadDogg NNID:xMadDoggx NS friend code:5313-0564-0819 Go buy cyber shadow like right now. <cite>Mad-Dogg posted [p:985798283] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>GhostFaceLeaks posted... </cite><quote>Keep an eye on certain games like Baldurs Gate 3, The Coffin of Andy and Leyley, and famous Visual Novels like Muv-Luv or Steins;Gate. If any of those get taken down the it is proof that anything is on the table even if some people may want them off Steam. It'll show just how far they are willing to go now.</quote>Don't forget masterpieces like anonymous agony. Anonymous agony must be preserved.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MuscleRobo 07/17/25 10:57:54 AM #98:	Solid_Sonic posted... I don't think we actually know but a few theories have been posted in here. I still stand by my "corporate image" theory (which has a couple of supporters throughout here). The actual reason is rather obfuscated. Some feminist group called "Collective Shout" seems to be taking the credit. <cite>MuscleRobo posted [p:985799092] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>Solid_Sonic posted... </cite><quote>I don't think we actually know but a few theories have been posted in here. I still stand by my "corporate image" theory (which has a couple of supporters throughout here).The actual reason is rather obfuscated.</quote>Some feminist group called "Collective Shout" seems to be taking the credit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yazarogi 07/17/25 8:24:20 PM #99:	Phanir posted... Never, I love Stardew Valley. The game I'm referencing uses the "go to our site for the H-patch" excuse to continue existing, so a developer's post on the community hub directly links to fictional CP. Bet thank you for not naming them, those scum. --- "There will be nothing to show that we were ever here... but stardust." - Pinbacker <cite>Yazarogi posted [p:985804582] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>Phanir posted... </cite><quote>Never, I love Stardew Valley.The game I'm referencing uses the "go to our site for the H-patch" excuse to continue existing, so a developer's post on the community hub directly links to fictional CP.</quote>Bet thank you for not naming them, those scum.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GrandCross6 07/17/25 8:33:18 PM #100:	already got Chardonnay Romancia methinks I'm set --- >there will never be another Tales game as good as Xillia 2 ever again <cite>GrandCross6 posted [p:985804659] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>already got Chardonnay Romanciamethinks I'm set</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pikachuchupika 07/18/25 1:54:00 PM #101:	https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/1m32iyb/collective_shout_is_celebrating_their_success_in/ Apparently it's a group that pressured the payment processors to pull out. <cite>Pikachuchupika posted [p:985810923] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>https://www.reddit.com/r/Steam/comments/1m32iyb/collective_shout_is_celebrating_their_success_in/Apparently it's a group that pressured the payment processors to pull out. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Raiden2909 07/18/25 1:56:11 PM #102:	Ya... Looking into this the group thats seemingly behind this has a lot of links to christian far right, Pro life, Anti LGBTQ groups and think tanks so they are probably going to start pushing for games with LGBTQ content next <cite>Raiden2909 posted [p:985810949] in Steam bend... [t:81013860]...</cite> <quote>Ya... Looking into this the group thats seemingly behind this has a lot of links to christian far right, Pro life, Anti LGBTQ groups and think tanks so they are probably going to start pushing for games with LGBTQ content next </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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