Current Events > the "Awakening" in Dragon Ball Daima has been revealed now *spoilers*

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Akagami_Shanks
02/14/25 9:57:43 AM
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Super saiyan 4 kid goku

I feel like dragon ball is just on an eternal loop, eternally reusing old stuff in order to keep churning the money wheel lol

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WingsOfGood
02/14/25 10:03:49 AM
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ep hasn't even dropped yet
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Ivynn
02/14/25 10:06:42 AM
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Are they exploring any new ideas? Dragon Ball has never been high art but still, it seems they're always reusing stuff. >_>


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AceMos
02/14/25 10:13:08 AM
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it looks so bad

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Akagami_Shanks
02/14/25 10:35:20 AM
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WingsOfGood posted...
ep hasn't even dropped yet
it has in japan

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Akagami_Shanks
02/14/25 10:36:14 AM
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Ivynn posted...
Are they exploring any new ideas? Dragon Ball has never been high art but still, it seems they're always reusing stuff. >_>
the newest idea they've had was maybe ultra instinct/ego which is nearly a 10 year old transformation at this point lol

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WingsOfGood
02/14/25 10:38:48 AM
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goku hair has been

black
blonde
blonder
red
blue
black with white highlights

next:
purple
green
white
gold
translucent
brown
orange

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Kaitouace
02/14/25 10:38:58 AM
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It really is just a second attempt at Dragonball GT.

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Solar_Crimson
02/14/25 10:42:35 AM
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So, SSJ4 is canon now?

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GeminiDeus
02/14/25 10:43:06 AM
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Any pics?

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Foppe
02/14/25 10:44:43 AM
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Kaitouace posted...
It really is just a second attempt at Dragonball GT.
https://www.cbr.com/dragon-ball-daima-gt-biggest-inspiration/

... made a stunning confirmation that Dragon Ball GT, often regarded as the black sheep of the Dragon Ball franchise, was the biggest source of inspiration behind Daima's development...

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Akagami_Shanks
02/14/25 10:52:34 AM
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GeminiDeus posted...
Any pics?
https://www.cbr.com/dragon-ball-gt-super-saiyan-4-officially-canon/

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AgentCoulson
02/14/25 11:01:36 AM
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Looks fine to me.

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Starks
02/14/25 11:03:11 AM
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Oh why...

And lol Vegeta forever

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Solar_Crimson
02/14/25 11:48:18 AM
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Interesting that SSJ4 in Daima keeps Goku as a kid, when in GT it turned him into an adult for some reason.

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Biofighter55
02/14/25 11:50:29 AM
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I gotta say rip to toriyama but this whole series screams creatively bankrupt

half of the issues were - oh no our ships broke again

half ass ginyu force

the buus which I actually kind of like

most of the time nothing between major story beats

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Starks
02/14/25 11:52:53 AM
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Is Super anime even worth continuing into Moro arc after this?

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s0nicfan
02/14/25 11:56:45 AM
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Ivynn posted...
Are they exploring any new ideas? Dragon Ball has never been high art but still, it seems they're always reusing stuff. >_>

Stuff like this is basically just fodder for their mobile games so they can have new characters to put in gaches that they can then put in Holiday outfits for an infinite source of money.

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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
02/14/25 12:04:27 PM
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I mean, AT also wanted to do his own version of Broly and LSSJ, so he clearly wanted to do his own renditions of the "non-canon" DB content.

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Kami_no_Kami
02/14/25 12:06:58 PM
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WingsOfGood posted...
goku hair has been

black
blonde
blonder
red
blue
black with white highlights

How did you manage to miss silver
next:
purple
green
white
gold
translucent
brown
orange
Vegetas hair has turned purple, Gohans has turned white, Piccolo has turned orange, the Legendary Super Saiyans have green hair and Frieza has turned Gold, so Im pretty sure those are all out (except maybe the last one). Also, rose, so probably pink is out too.
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Nemu
02/14/25 12:10:25 PM
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Curious if theres any long term plan to work any of this back into the wider continuity, or if theyre going to treat it as stand alone from everything. Whole series has definitely been a bit of an up and down mess, presumably needing to hodgepodge some things together after ATs death. If DB is going to continue, might just be best to work Xenoverse stuff into the main plot and acknowledge all the different timelines as their own thing.
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Starks
02/14/25 12:12:20 PM
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I think everyone still wants to end up at End of Z and the peaceful era in a respectful way.

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Solar_Crimson
02/14/25 12:15:22 PM
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I honestly feel like the Super era's big mistake was setting it in the timeskip between the Buu Saga and End of Z. So much stuff they've introduced invalidates End of Z (plus originally Bulma said that it had been 5 years since she had last spoken to Goku when they meet again in End of Z; but the current Super timeline has them still in contact a year before End of Z).

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Mad-Dogg
02/14/25 12:16:10 PM
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I notice they let goku get his tail there. I wonder if canon ssj4 will be reserved for moments when the saiyans get their tail back and then poofs away when the tail is lost again, lol.

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Starks
02/14/25 12:19:09 PM
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Another decade of edgy SSJ4 tattoos and fanart incoming

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CastletonSnob1
02/14/25 12:21:25 PM
#26:


It's really been almost a year since we lost Akira Toriyama.
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mazingetter
02/14/25 1:15:01 PM
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Kami_no_Kami posted...
Frieza has turned Gold

He also has a Black form.

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mybbqrules
02/14/25 1:51:17 PM
#28:


Starks posted...
Oh why...

And lol Vegeta forever
First thing I thought was when Goku transforms it should smash cut to Vegeta just simmering and saying "God...DAMN IT."

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s0nicfan
02/14/25 1:54:58 PM
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mybbqrules posted...
First thing I thought was when Goku transforms it should smash cut to Vegeta just simmering and saying "God...DAMN IT."

Given that Daima takes place before super, it's all kind of moot. Super finally gives Goku and Vegeta different forms that lets them both develop without it explicitly being a pissing contest over who's transformation has the biggest number.

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The_Popo
02/14/25 1:56:42 PM
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Just watched it. Seemed kinda weak the way he even became SSJ4, with Neva just silently walking on and making him turn into it.

And then SSJ4 got the Ultimate Gohan treatment. New power up? Sweet. Aaaaand I lost.

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Ratchetrockon
02/14/25 1:58:30 PM
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Wait why didn't goku ever go ssj4 in super then

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The_Popo
02/14/25 2:01:01 PM
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Ratchetrockon posted...
Wait why didn't goku ever go ssj4 in super then

Ive been under the impression that, while canon, Daima sorta splits into a different future or a What if scenario compared to Super.

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Biofighter55
02/14/25 2:09:39 PM
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Ratchetrockon posted...
Wait why didn't goku ever go ssj4 in super then

after watching the episode it appears and this is my theory, that neva tapped into super saiyan 4 using his power to allow Goku to use it

im assuming the ancient namekians knew of it?

considering goku got his tail back im guessing in order to naturally get it, you need a tail

so basically super saiyans can spilt into god forms or ape forms


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Jeff_AKA_Snoopy
02/14/25 2:13:12 PM
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Then there is Broly and his form of "Super Saiyan" too. So it doesn't REALLY matter anymore.

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OmniNakago
02/14/25 2:24:31 PM
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Im sure Toriyama had more love for the original Dragonball than Z, which makes sense as to why GT started the way it did, and Damia is the way it is.

Too bad the majority of the fanbase just wants more powerscaling fightin and Imma-firing-my-laser-beams; not a whimsical adventure.

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Biofighter55
02/14/25 2:34:50 PM
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OmniNakago posted...
Im sure Toriyama had more love for the original Dragonball than Z, which makes sense as to why GT started the way it did, and Damia is the way it is.

Too bad the majority of the fanbase just wants more powerscaling fightin and Imma-firing-my-laser-beams; not a whimsical adventure.

nahs its a pretty bad story

after it starts its like we have to get the dragon balls to get back to normal

we take ship to dragon ball, ship breaks down now do random shit until ship gets fixed/get new one

rinsh repeat for 20 episodes


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Solar_Crimson
02/14/25 2:35:17 PM
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OmniNakago posted...
Im sure Toriyama had more love for the original Dragonball than Z, which makes sense as to why GT started the way it did, and Damia is the way it is.
Makes sense. Toriyama was always predominantly a comedy/gag writer and he seemed more in his element when writing things like Dr. Slump and OG Dragon Ball.

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012yArthur0
02/14/25 2:36:32 PM
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OmniNakago posted...
Im sure Toriyama had more love for the original Dragonball than Z, which makes sense as to why GT started the way it did, and Damia is the way it is.

Too bad the majority of the fanbase just wants more powerscaling fightin and Imma-firing-my-laser-beams; not a whimsical adventure.
It always felt that Toriyama wrote in sour grapes that DBZ was far more popular than DB.

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OmniNakago
02/14/25 2:37:32 PM
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Biofighter55 posted...
do random shit until ship gets fixed/get new one

rinsh repeat for 20 episodes
Thats the stuff Toriyama enjoyed writing. Random fun adventures.

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Strider102
02/14/25 2:40:02 PM
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Ultra Instinct Super Saiyan 4 Kaioken x1,000,000 Super Saiyan is next

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Biofighter55
02/14/25 2:41:11 PM
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OmniNakago posted...
Thats the stuff Toriyama enjoyed writing. Random fun adventures.

no offense, this doesnt compare to dragon ball dragon ball is vastly better written than daima

i know it he loves random fun adventures, daima just isnt that good story wise

he had some good ideas but they fell flat

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Kaitouace
02/14/25 2:41:42 PM
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Biofighter55 posted...
nahs its a pretty bad story

after it starts its like we have to get the dragon balls to get back to normal

we take ship to dragon ball, ship breaks down now do random shit until ship gets fixed/get new one

rinsh repeat for 20 episodes

Don't forget new characters with interesting plot concepts that go nowhere. Glorio, Degesu, Marba, the new Majin, etc. And the time wasted on the not Ginyu Force that took Vegeta 5 minutes to take down when in just the previous episode the entire crew were on the ropes just from regular jobbers with laser guns.

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OmniNakago
02/14/25 2:48:43 PM
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Biofighter55 posted...
no offense, this doesnt compare to dragon ball dragon ball is vastly better written than daima

i know it he loves random fun adventures, daima just isnt that good story wise

he had some good ideas but they fell flat
Im not sure what youre arguing, because nowhere did I defend the quality of anything. Just stating that he wanted to get back to the feel of the original with the start of GT, and why he wanted to try it again with Daima after Super.

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mehmeh1
02/14/25 2:53:30 PM
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One thing i really like about this over GT is how they did fully commit to the adventure, while GT gave up after a few DBs and just spent the rest of the show in earth doing DBZ reheats. But yeah the way the transformation happened was eh, that aside this was fun and I like how Gomah at least still feels like a funny little guy, unlike say, Moro who went from cool evil goat wizard to discount Cell (and even Cell himself went from awesome horror monster to bland "i wanna prove my strength" guy)

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mybbqrules
02/14/25 3:12:01 PM
#45:


s0nicfan posted...
Given that Daima takes place before super, it's all kind of moot. Super finally gives Goku and Vegeta different forms that lets them both develop without it explicitly being a pissing contest over who's transformation has the biggest number.
I know, but I base this entirely on Vegeta showing off SSJ3 (and maintaining the form effortlessly while alive) just as few episodes ago, and now Goku has already pulled away again.

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Biofighter55
02/14/25 3:12:44 PM
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OmniNakago posted...
Im not sure what youre arguing, because nowhere did I defend the quality of anything. Just stating that he wanted to get back to the feel of the original with the start of GT, and why he wanted to try it again with Daima after Super.

well my original post was about how the story sucked and why it sucked

and your response was he likes that kind of stuff

but toriyama has written random adventures and they were good so Im wondering why you response with that now since my point was the story sucked in my first post

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OmniNakago
02/14/25 3:16:22 PM
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Biofighter55 posted...
well my original post was about how the story sucked and why it sucked

and your response was he likes that kind of stuff

but toriyama has written random adventures and they were good so Im wondering why you response with that now since my point was the story sucked in my first post
Because you responded to my post in the first place and I wanted to converse? Jesus Christ, dude...

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Biofighter55
02/14/25 3:22:41 PM
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OmniNakago posted...
Because you responded to my post in the first place and I wanted to converse? Jesus Christ, dude...

oh shit I didnt recognize your name lol thats on me Im sorry

anyway I can tell toriyama wanted to go back to his roots but if its good people
will love that but its just not great and the retcons of his retcons dont help

just like GT, daima had good ideas that fall flat

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OmniNakago
02/14/25 3:24:52 PM
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Haha, no worries.

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PowerOats
02/15/25 2:57:25 PM
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Where the fuck is SSj4 Broly
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