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Jagus 01/04/25 5:48:17 PM #1: |
Basically an AI is used to generate more Gen 1/Kanto for people to play. Could be fun for people tired of the originals edit: as a fan project, not something you pay for --- No, marriage is about love. It fails because people think love can be reduced to a feeling. - On the Edge ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dungeater 01/04/25 5:49:08 PM #2: |
no --- My fate was the grandest, most brilliant of them all. He/Him ... Copied to Clipboard!
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viewmaster_pi 01/04/25 5:49:44 PM #3: |
oh boy, PokAImon --- Let your tears fertilize the mud on which we rest ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PowerOats 01/04/25 5:50:08 PM #4: |
AI anything = Hell no ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_____Cait 01/04/25 5:50:16 PM #5: |
Why AI? --- ORAS secret base: http://imgur.com/V9nAVrd 3DS friend code: 0173-1465-1236 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jagus 01/04/25 5:53:37 PM #6: |
_____Cait posted... Why AI? So they can make procedurally generated environments or whatever with ease --- No, marriage is about love. It fails because people think love can be reduced to a feeling. - On the Edge ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnholyMudcrab 01/04/25 5:55:44 PM #7: |
I would not be down for that. --- http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif http://i.imgur.com/gd5jC8q.gif http://i.imgur.com/PKIy7.gif http://i.imgur.com/3p29JqP.gif ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rick_alverado 01/04/25 5:57:09 PM #8: |
There's already romhacks that expand on Gen 1. You don't need AI to do that. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jagus 01/04/25 6:00:40 PM #9: |
rick_alverado posted... There's already romhacks that expand on Gen 1. You don't need AI to do that. What are the best ones in your opinion? --- No, marriage is about love. It fails because people think love can be reduced to a feeling. - On the Edge ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Garioshi 01/04/25 6:02:02 PM #10: |
Shut the fuck up --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheLiarParadox 01/04/25 6:02:09 PM #11: |
Down for AI? Down with AI? --- Spongebob is not a contraceptive. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sephiroth_C_Ryu 01/04/25 6:03:04 PM #12: |
There was some Pokemon Infinite Fusion thing where you can basically fuse two pokemon together. That one was amusing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKpkEjJQZ5E --- I am the Hunter of Topics. My post never fails to kill its prey. *pounces* Nyaa! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rick_alverado 01/04/25 6:03:15 PM #13: |
Jagus posted... What are the best ones in your opinion? I don't play romhacks myself, so I can't say, I just know they exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rick_alverado 01/04/25 6:05:14 PM #14: |
Sephiroth_C_Ryu posted... There was some Pokemon Infinite Fusion thing where you can basically fuse two pokemon together. That one was amusing. Unfortunately they've started using AI for Pokedex entries. As a result multiple artists have asked for their work to be removed from the game, and are basically being told no. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Relient_K 01/04/25 6:05:32 PM #15: |
Pokemon infinite fusion has a very well handled gimmick and is a great gameplay experience. It starts in kanto and then you go to Johto. --- We all ate the biscuits, Fighter. We can all see through time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Solar_Crimson 01/04/25 6:05:55 PM #16: |
It's all fun and games until Lance sends out a dragon with a tail for its tongue. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/9/9c7dee4b.jpg --- "Be good to yourself, because everyone else in the world is probably out to get you." - Dr. Harleen Quinzel ... Copied to Clipboard!
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kage_53 01/04/25 6:09:06 PM #17: |
That dragon tongue looks like a stand arrow ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tom_Joad 01/04/25 6:10:09 PM #18: |
Gen1 is TRANSFORMERS!!! If you want to talk about Pokemon, at least put that in the subject title! --- "History shows again and again that nature points out the folly of man. Go go Godzilla!" Godzilla - Blue Oyster Cult ... Copied to Clipboard!
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viewmaster_pi 01/04/25 6:10:52 PM #19: |
Solar_Crimson posted... It's all fun and games until Lance sends out a dragon with a tail for its tongue.cool palworld pal! --- Let your tears fertilize the mud on which we rest ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nukazie 01/04/25 6:11:04 PM #20: |
Jagus posted... What are the best ones in your opinion?team rocket edition --- We suffer from the delusion that the entire universe is held in order by the categories of human thought. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GhostFaceLeaks 01/04/25 6:15:45 PM #21: |
AI is inevitable with how creatively bankrupt GameFreak has gotten anyways. --- "Do you like Scary movies?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Justin2Krelian 01/04/25 6:22:31 PM #22: |
I'd rather see a more complex version of Pokemon Go, even if it's just Gen 1. --- -J2K Currently Streaming: The Expanse, ST: Lower Decks, Silo, Arcane, Homeland ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DrizztLink 01/04/25 6:23:35 PM #23: |
I'd rather learn Braille and read a cheese grater. --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sephiroth_C_Ryu 01/05/25 9:48:33 PM #24: |
rick_alverado posted... Unfortunately they've started using AI for Pokedex entries. As a result multiple artists have asked for their work to be removed from the game, and are basically being told no. Then the artists should just submit their own dex entry descriptions for anything they drew. You don't play a fan game like fusions to actually read the dex. --- I am the Hunter of Topics. My post never fails to kill its prey. *pounces* Nyaa! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssjevot 01/05/25 9:50:55 PM #25: |
Solar_Crimson posted... It's all fun and games until Lance sends out a dragon with a tail for its tongue. I mean the Welsh dragon has that and it predates AI. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rick_alverado 01/06/25 10:42:19 AM #26: |
Sephiroth_C_Ryu posted... Then the artists should just submit their own dex entry descriptions for anything they drew. What kind of a response even is this? They want their work removed from a game that is now doing something they find morally wrong, and you think they should do more work for a game doing something they find morally wrong? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ReturnOfDevsman 01/06/25 10:50:39 AM #28: |
Solar_Crimson posted... It's all fun and games until Lance sends out a dragon with a tail for its tongue.Maybe it's the tail of another dragon that it ate. --- Arguing on CE be all like: https://youtu.be/JpRKrs67lOs?si=kPGA2RCKVHTdbVrJ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssjevot 01/06/25 11:02:41 AM #29: |
rick_alverado posted... What kind of a response even is this? They want their work removed from a game that is now doing something they find morally wrong, and you think they should do more work for a game doing something they find morally wrong? "The copyright infringing game is infringing copyright in a way I don't like now." It's a really weird stance to have if we're being honest. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PerseusRad 01/06/25 11:07:07 AM #30: |
rick_alverado posted... Unfortunately they've started using AI for Pokedex entries. As a result multiple artists have asked for their work to be removed from the game, and are basically being told no.I believe they've already walked that back ssjevot posted... "The copyright infringing game is infringing copyright in a way I don't like now." It's a really weird stance to have if we're being honest.They were fans contributing to a fan game, and the fan game was going in a direction they didn't like. Not at all a weird stance, really. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Yazarogi 01/06/25 11:11:46 AM #31: |
no --- "There will be nothing to show that we were ever here... but stardust." - Pinbacker ... Copied to Clipboard!
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uwnim 01/06/25 11:14:39 AM #32: |
rick_alverado posted... Unfortunately they've started using AI for Pokedex entries. As a result multiple artists have asked for their work to be removed from the game, and are basically being told no.They are using AI in a responsible matter. Human written dex entries have priority and people can submit them to replace AI entries. Human and AI entries are distinguishable. So basically AI is just to provide filler entries instead of leaving them blank. --- I want a pet Lavos Spawn. [Order of the Cetaceans: Phocoena dioptrica] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nemu 01/06/25 11:15:20 AM #33: |
When generative AI is good enough, absolutely. Barring ethical concerns from stolen data, truly adaptive AI that can generate new content as desired would be fantastic. Being able to say generate a new storyline based on the Orange Islands and not needing to wait a decade for a dedicated rom hack to be made would be amazing. If thats even possible, were still a long, long way away from it, but I really hope that happens. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 01/06/25 11:17:54 AM #34: |
Sephiroth_C_Ryu posted... There was some Pokemon Infinite Fusion thing where you can basically fuse two pokemon together. That one was amusing. Meanwhile Monster Rancher, since the 90s: --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssjevot 01/06/25 11:19:50 AM #35: |
PerseusRad posted... I believe they've already walked that back Yeah it would be awful to use an artist's work without their permission... You know like the entire game does and those artists did. People keep having meltdowns over AI because the training data is often made up of work taken from artists without their permission. But then I hear these same people supporting projects like these that blatantly use the work of other artists without their permission. Personally I don't care about the fan games at all, but pretending to have a moral leg to stand on here is ridiculous. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ReturnOfDevsman 01/06/25 11:27:09 AM #36: |
ssjevot posted... People keep having meltdowns over AI because the training data is often made up of work taken from artists without their permission.What does a human do? --- Arguing on CE be all like: https://youtu.be/JpRKrs67lOs?si=kPGA2RCKVHTdbVrJ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssjevot 01/06/25 11:28:55 AM #37: |
ReturnOfDevsman posted... What does a human do? The same thing, but people are okay with that. Look I'm not the guy who rips sprites from games, modifies them (actually most sprites in the game aren't even modified) and then gets mad about AI text. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 01/06/25 11:35:13 AM #38: |
rick_alverado posted... Unfortunately they've started using AI for Pokedex entries. As a result multiple artists have asked for their work to be removed from the game, and are basically being told no. wait what thats bullshit --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 01/06/25 11:36:47 AM #39: |
ssjevot posted... "The copyright infringing game is infringing copyright in a way I don't like now." It's a really weird stance to have if we're being honest. fan games fall under fair use --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssjevot 01/06/25 11:37:58 AM #40: |
AceMos posted... fan games fall under fair use Yep. And they're fairly using those artists work, just like they fairly used the unmodified sprites other artists made without their permission. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PerseusRad 01/06/25 11:38:02 AM #41: |
AceMos posted... wait what thats bullshitlike I said they already went back on that. Though iirc the post from the dev was pretty whiny https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/6/660a70ed.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 01/06/25 11:41:04 AM #42: |
ssjevot defending AI what a shock --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LuigiChalmersJr 01/06/25 11:42:09 AM #43: |
AceMos posted... fan games fall under fair useNo, they don't. Where are you getting this from? --- Los Angeles Clippers http://i.imgur.com/3dExqUh.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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OldNastyBastard 01/06/25 11:43:39 AM #44: |
What are you looking for specifically from Gen1 Pokemon? You want it expanded, but in what way? An entirely new game with the same mechanics? Same area but expanded with same/different pokemon? New area but same pokemon? I'm playing Pokemon Unbound right now, I believe it was a romhack from Fire Red. It has most/all the QOL updates as the newer games, probably some rebalancing, but the story and town feel completely new to me. There's also four or five difficulty settings so you can customize the experience to your liking. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PiOverlord 01/06/25 11:44:05 AM #45: |
Hell no. --- Number of legendary 500 post topics: 36, 500th posts: 34; PiO ATTN: 6 RotM wins 1, LETTEN MY ARROW FLYEN TRUE ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssjevot 01/06/25 11:46:22 AM #46: |
AceMos posted... ssjevot defending AI what a shock I don't give a fuck about AI or copyright, but you guys can't seem to decided which one it is you care about. You are all like pirate everything who gives a fuck what the artist wants and then go and whine that AI is learning from copyrighted work without permission. How am I supposed to take this nonsense seriously? --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 01/06/25 11:48:51 AM #47: |
ssjevot posted... I don't give a fuck about AI or copyright, but you guys can't seem to decided which one it is you care about. You are all like pirate everything who gives a fuck what the artist wants and then go and whine that AI is learning from copyrighted work without permission. How am I supposed to take this nonsense seriously? who here is defending piracy? --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ssjevot 01/06/25 11:49:59 AM #48: |
AceMos posted... who here is defending piracy? This literal game is entirely stolen sprites and modified stolen sprites. That's the entirety of the game. --- Favorite Games: BlazBlue: Central Fiction, Street Fighter III: Third Strike, Bayonetta, Bloodborne thats a username you habe - chuckyhacksss ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AceMos 01/06/25 11:51:50 AM #49: |
ssjevot posted... This literal game is entirely stolen sprites and modified stolen sprites. That's the entirety of the game. rom hacks are the same thing as modding a game on steam the vast majority of people who play these pokemon rom hacks have legal copies --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.*does her janpuu dance* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 01/06/25 11:52:42 AM #50: |
ssjevot posted... This literal game is entirely stolen sprites and modified stolen sprites. That's the entirety of the game.Not to mention stealing the game itself lol --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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