Current Events > Looks like election interference might have happened after all

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tommyrocket posted...

I listened to most of the audio. It's non-stop projection from coming from them. Also rambling about "algorithms", when, judging by how they spoke about it, they don't know what that is, they just try to act like they do. They also brought religious divine intervention ("the Hand of God") into it, like uneducated anti-science idiots. Sure, sure, something that can't possibly exist totally intervened in a machine. Keep telling yourselves that.

Another ridiculous thing they said: "Deepstate women of color"

These guys literally just say anything and expect it to stick. Knowing their base, it unfortunately will.

Its weird, its basically trying to admit they cheated, but it was to counteract them cheating, so its fine.

It reminded me of that one scene in The Big Short where Steve Carrell and his friends are talking to a bunch of finance-bros, and they're asking them about the set-up-to-fail mortgages they're giving out and stuff, and the twist is these Finance bros are actually just bragging about how they're doing it with no understanding or care for the potential dangers of that activity.

Proto_Spark posted...

Its weird, its basically trying to admit they cheated, but it was to counteract them cheating, so its fine.

It reminded me of that one scene in The Big Short where Steve Carrell and his friends are talking to a bunch of finance-bros, and they're asking them about the set-up-to-fail mortgages they're giving out and stuff, and the twist is these Finance bros are actually just bragging about how they're doing it with no understanding or care for the potential dangers of that activity.

You don't need to be good at crime or even successfully commit a crime in order to be guilty of at least conspiracy to commit a crime.

Please stop embarrassing yourselves.

Trump himself said there was election fraud in Pennsylvania. It would only be right to look into it, right.

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Bomb threats to deep blue polling areas certainly counts

lilORANG posted...

Bomb threats to deep blue polling areas certainly counts

that doesnt make millions of dem votes go missing or switch to trump

lilORANG posted...

Bomb threats to deep blue polling areas certainly counts

That was from Russia tho right. How do you go after them.

SauI_Goodman posted...

That was from Russia tho right. How do you go after them.

we can start by going after the Russian assets who have infiltrated our government, military, and media

https://spoutible.com/thread/37937176

Dark_twisted posted...

https://spoutible.com/thread/37937176

"Exit polls are extremely accurate"

they really aren't, this is complete nonsense

Like I trudged through so much of the same bullshit in 2020 explaining why yeah, it is sometimes common to have solo-presidential ballots hit. Happened a lot for Biden in 2020. The Republicans used this to say it was evidence of fraud, implying the nefarious deep state that was able to rig presidential elections forgot to do it to downballot races.

This is no different because the question will forever remain unanswerable because there is no answer to it because it a near-objective refutation to the claim.

WingsOfGood posted...

Is it really evidence if what they guy says he did is absolute nonsense?

Of course not.

Gotta explain to the base that they weren't lying about voter fraud, they just magically fixed it, hence their win.

Meanwhile some are taking this obvious BS as an excuse to huff on their copium inhaler.

Alucard188 posted...

If there is real evidence, then I hope it comes out and they actually do something about it.

Lol, as if. Trump himself could come out and say "I rigged the election" and provide proof beyond question, and absolutely nothing would be done about it.

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well, people are noticing it. therefore, yes, it is not a thing that can just be done without being noticed.

SauI_Goodman posted...

That was from Russia tho right. How do you go after them.

Yes, but Russia and Trump are aligned

How could the elections be rigged on a massive scale without anyone noticing any serious evidence? I'll have heard so far is people talking about some master hacking plan that sounds like something from a Hollywood movie made in the 90s by people who have no idea how computers work.

YellowSUV posted...

How could the elections be rigged on a massive scale without anyone noticing any serious evidence? I'll have heard so far is people talking about some master hacking plan that sounds like something from a Hollywood movie made in the 90s by people who have no idea how computers work.

Yeah, seriously.

Also, regarding that guy supposedly connected to Flynn, here is the real story. It's not as exciting as random people on Twitter and Bsky make it out to be.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fbi-raids-polymarket-ceos-home-seizing-phone-electronics-ny-post-reports-2024-11-13/

The early-morning raid of Coplan's SoHo apartment followed last week's presidential election, in which bettors on Polymarket, an offshore, crypto-fueled election gambling website, had for weeks put Donald Trump's odds drastically higher than those of Vice President Kamala Harris, in sharp divergence from opinion polls.
he DOJ is investigating Polymarket for allegedly allowing U.S.-based users to bet on the site, Bloomberg News reported Wednesday evening.
In the run-up to the presidential election, the site gained widespread attention for the way it placed Trump's odds high above those of Harris, when opinion polls had for months shown the race in a dead heat.
Polymarket, which does not allow trading in the U.S., also gained scrutiny after a mystery French trader, known as the Polymarket whale, made large bets on Trump winning the election.

TLDR: FBI raided the house of the CEO of company that isn't supposed to do business with gamblers in the US. He is charged with allowing Americans to place bets on the election on his website. He might also end up in hot doo-doo in France.

DoesntMatter posted...

well, people are noticing it. therefore, yes, it is not a thing that can just be done without being noticed.

Okay, but nobody noticed it BEFORE election day? This shit usually takes months worth of planning in advance, and Trump's lackeys, esp. the rank-and-file ones, are well known for stabbing each other in the back if they see an opportunity to benefit from it far more than whatever benefit they would receive by going along with the conspiracy. Remember that Jan 6 happened due to failures on multiple fronts, including a woefully underestimated turnout for the Stop the Steal Rally *the estimate was only half the number that actually showed up. As a result, the number of deployed Capitol police was woefully insufficient, and allowed the rioters to overwhelm them with ease.)

You'd need every member of the NSA involved with listening to election-based chatter to be part of the conspiracy, along with FBI agents (yes, they were prohibited from monitoring polling stations, but there are innumerable places that they could pick up chatter on this stuff, including but not limited to Trump aides, businessmen, and private citizens involved in white-collar interstate crimes, sexual offenses, those with connections to militias, etc.) Pulling this type of election fraud off in multiple states would require conspirators in Trump's campaign, in conservative think tanks, and on the state and local level. Russian psy-ops would likely participate as well. This would take place over a period of months. That is an awful lot of chatter.

no harm in trying

Dyinglegacy posted...

A recording wouldnt be enough as ai can deepfake anything now. Youd need them on a stand in front of the world.

As is, its just conspiracy. And wishful thinking.

A possibly-but-nowhere-near-definitely-fake recording is not enough to confirm that something dodgy happened. It can definitely be grounds to justify taking a closer look and double-checking everything.

I don't wanna be one of those types that were made fun of for years but I still can't wrap my head around Trump's broad growth in support that every indicator pre-election showed just didn't exist.

It just *feels* off to me.

This is a win win for the right. If democrats call for a recount and provide evidence of machine tampering than, "both sides are the same" and the right will use it as proof Dems stole the 2020 election and are admitting the machines are flawed. If Democrats do nothing and Republicans did cheat, than they know they can get away with it.

The election isn't being overturned, too many votes went to Trump that he won even if there was fraud, and I'm not convinced there was. I thought Harris was doing a good job but it seems that teaming up with war mongering republicans (who hate Trump) hurt her enough to lose. It made Don's "man of peace" lie look credible.

I feel like that even if it was widespread enough to actually give Trump a fake win it would be buried and denied by those in power precisely because it would call into question the entire system for years both in the past and in future elections.

Vyrulisse posted...

I don't wanna be one of those types that were made fun of for years but I still can't wrap my head around Trump's broad growth in support that every indicator pre-election showed just didn't exist.

It just *feels* off to me.

Right wing propaganda is a hell of a drug.

The amount of people needed to be involved in this across multiple states that there is no evidence, no leaks, no people coming forward, and I believe people have talked about exit polling and other shit lining up with the results being legit. I think people need to get it out of their minds that the election will be overturned.

I'll say the same thing I said last time. If there's any merit it needs to be investigated. But it is rather disheartening to see this become a habit...

Vyrulisse posted...

I feel like that even if it was widespread enough to actually give Trump a fake win it would be buried and denied by those in power precisely because it would call into question the entire system for years both in the past and in future elections.

Everyone but election deniers were calling the 2020 election one of the most secure elections in history. For democrats to say this election was stolen or even tampered to give Trump an edge than it puts into question that very claim. Which is important to Dems and our democracy as a whole.

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Can you quote the thread for those of us without accounts? Or link to what they're basing this breaking headline on?

Hyena_Of_Ice posted...

Okay, but nobody noticed it BEFORE election day? This shit usually takes months worth of planning in advance, and Trump's lackeys, esp. the rank-and-file ones, are well known for stabbing each other in the back if they see an opportunity to benefit from it far more than whatever benefit they would receive by going along with the conspiracy. Remember that Jan 6 happened due to failures on multiple fronts, including a woefully underestimated turnout for the Stop the Steal Rally *the estimate was only half the number that actually showed up. As a result, the number of deployed Capitol police was woefully insufficient, and allowed the rioters to overwhelm them with ease.)

You'd need every member of the NSA involved with listening to election-based chatter to be part of the conspiracy, along with FBI agents (yes, they were prohibited from monitoring polling stations, but there are innumerable places that they could pick up chatter on this stuff, including but not limited to Trump aides, businessmen, and private citizens involved in white-collar interstate crimes, sexual offenses, those with connections to militias, etc.) Pulling this type of election fraud off in multiple states would require conspirators in Trump's campaign, in conservative think tanks, and on the state and local level. Russian psy-ops would likely participate as well. This would take place over a period of months. That is an awful lot of chatter.

I mean they did come right out and say many suspicious things like not needing his base to vote and what not. and there were multiple incidents and warnings from experts saying there would be an attempt to sabotage the election. the point, is the experts did notice something and issued warnings, and after the election, there have been multiple reports of strange incidents happening all over the country surrounding the results of the election..

now we the people have no concrete proof or evidence, but if there are experts saying something is screwy or suggesting that something nefarious is going on, than maybe we should start listening to them and open an investigation while there is still a chance to uncover anything.

Every day the democrats lose more and more authority on the matter, and soon there will not be enough time to discover anything, and yes I am well aware that even if something was discovered that would change the results of the election, the democrats won't do anything about it.

if the country is going to fall. I would at least like to know if the people actually voted for it or not though. it will make a difference in the future even if nothing can be done about it now. The only way to uncover such things is to investigate before Trump is inaugerated and than it will be all but impossible.

We should investigate if only to remove any doubts about the legitimacy of the grotesque rapist Russian puppet clowns victory.

I almost wish the left would go this route, at least in right wing spaces. There are people in conservative circles that still think the election fraud stuff was in good faith and that they are the true champions of free speech.

It would be fun trying to see them justify why these issues arent worth looking into and why its okay to block this kind of talk on Truth Social and Twitter.