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CRON
09/17/24 11:29:39 AM
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$170M annually for four years. Their previous one was $35M annually for four years.

https://www.f4wonline.com/news/aew/aew-tv-deal-update-warner-bros-discovery-annual-media-rights-fees-more/

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LeTigre
09/17/24 11:30:25 AM
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All the WWE marks tell me AEW is dead tho.

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CRON
09/17/24 11:32:04 AM
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LeTigre posted...
All the WWE marks tell me AEW is dead tho.
As an AEW fan it's hard to ignore the dwindling ratings and crowds getting smaller though. The company isn't going anywhere anytime soon but that's a problem they really need to address.

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C_Pain
09/17/24 12:05:34 PM
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but IWC told me AEW is failing

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bigblu89
09/17/24 12:06:45 PM
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Live TV is still a very lucrative Ad market, even with ratings falling or being stagnant.

There are VERY few non-news shows, especially on cable, that are watch as they air shows. Its basically sports and wrestling.

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ClayGuida
09/17/24 12:13:51 PM
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People underestimate content filling.

It's basically year around content. There's no seasons for Wrestling, so 52 weeks a year you have a day slotted and filled.

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Tsukasa1891
09/17/24 12:29:41 PM
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Neat. Still not going to watch a five hour ad for the next PPV.

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Kaitouace
09/17/24 12:36:25 PM
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Good. The more options outside of WWE, the better.

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Proto_Spark
09/17/24 1:10:51 PM
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Cool. Not the biggest fan of AEW, but good on them for doing well.

Its also worth noting that their original deal was back when AEW was a completely unproven product, and despite being in a bit of a cold streak right now, has likely completely exploded any expectations made back in 2019. So this deal was likely always going to be a pretty significant increase.

Though this isn't me trying to take anything away from AEW - this is still a big win.
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The_Popo
09/17/24 1:15:38 PM
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Good

And fucking the wrestling tribalism mentality.

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Maze_
09/17/24 1:18:17 PM
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The_Popo posted...
Good

And fuck the wrestling tribalism mentality.


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RetsuZaiZen
09/17/24 1:18:43 PM
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Good!

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Simon_Gruber
09/17/24 1:57:53 PM
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Nice. It's usually said it takes 5 years for a new business to be profitable so looks like they're on track.
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Kuuko
09/17/24 2:00:34 PM
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Why do modern wrestling fans talk about ratings so much. I see more discussion on wrestling ratings than I see discussion on the wrestling itself

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Maze_
09/17/24 2:09:16 PM
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Kuuko posted...
Why do modern wrestling fans talk about ratings so much. I see more discussion on wrestling ratings than I see discussion on the wrestling itself
Dunno if this was a real question or rhetorical >_>

But in the 90s WCW and WWF had competing flagship shows on Mondays. Raw and Nitro. This was called "The Monday Night Wars" with an estimated 5-12 million people watching (or flipping between) the shows every week for years.

This made both shows become EXTREMELY ratings obsessed with the concept being whoever got the highest rating "won" and also brought in a bucketload of ad revenue

Focus on increasing ratings became the focal point of the show, more important than the wrestling and storylines. Especially in WCW which in the late 90s/early 2000s rarely had a match that went on more than 200 seconds and every few minutes something wacky happened. IT was pretty much what we would call Tik-Tok now.

Fast Forward to today, all the kids who grew up watching that STILL use ratings to determine whether or not a wrestling show is good. Including AEW's founder Tony Khan. Who brought up AEW's initial good ratings repeatedly in the face of criticism.

We've had 2 decades of "You can tell WWE sucks now because less Americans are watching Live cable TV than they used to in 1998" and 5 years of "You can AEW sucks because they dropped from 2 million to 700,000 viewers!"

When you point out that in terms of eyeballs, more people globally are watching wrestling than ever before and it's making bank, they get really really really angry and insecure because the TV ratings don't reflect that.

Probably not explaining it very well if you haven't been around for the ride. But basically wrestling fans have been conditioned and trained to think ratings are really really important. Including the dude running AEW.


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Kuuko
09/17/24 2:16:18 PM
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Maze_ posted...
Dunno if this was a real question or rhetorical >_>

But in the 90s WCW and WWF had competing flagship shows on Mondays. Raw and Nitro. This was called "The Monday Night Wars" with an estimated 5-12 million people watching (or flipping between) the shows every week for years.

This made both shows become EXTREMELY ratings obsessed with the concept being whoever got the highest rating "won" and also brought in a bucketload of ad revenue

Focus on increasing ratings became the focal point of the show, more important than the wrestling and storylines. Especially in WCW which in the late 90s/early 2000s rarely had a match that went on more than 200 seconds and every few minutes something wacky happened. IT was pretty much what we would call Tik-Tok now.

Fast Forward to today, all the kids who grew up watching that STILL use ratings to determine whether or not a wrestling show is good. Including AEW's founder Tony Khan. Who brought up AEW's initial good ratings repeatedly in the face of criticism.

We've had 2 decades of "You can tell WWE sucks now because less Americans are watching Live cable TV than they used to in 1998" and 5 years of "You can AEW sucks because they dropped from 2 million to 700,000 viewers!"

When you point out that in terms of eyeballs, more people globally are watching wrestling than ever before and it's making bank, they get really really really angry and insecure because the TV ratings don't reflect that.

Probably not explaining it very well if you haven't been around for the ride. But basically wrestling fans have been conditioned and trained to think ratings are really really important. Including the dude running AEW.
Not rhetorical. I watched wrestling in the mid-2000s but obviously did not give a fuck about the ratings of how each WWE program compared to that week's TNA program or whatever. And now for the last few years, if I see a wrestling thread on any website bumped to the front page it's either because some super nostalgia-bait stuff just happened or because everyone's debating ratings for some reason. It gives me Trump vibes, like if you need to constantly explain to everyone how massively popular your rallies and your crowd sizes are, then they're probably not as massive as you say. If wrestling fans are trying to convince themselves and each other how popular their show is, maybe it's not that popular.

But that history is interesting. Thanks for explaining

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