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Euripides 08/25/24 10:35:47 AM #1: |
Yes, she has spoken about her ideas in speeches. Yes, we have a good idea of what she stands for. Yet she has not yet announced an official platform or agenda. It's a bit frustrating, as there is nothing "official" to cite when debating with people about the election. Some analysts are saying that this is "vagueness by design," allowing groups to project their wishes onto her. That's fine to a point, but the "she stands for nothing" cries are already starting. And we already know that the debates are going to be both candidates ignoring the questions and just rattling off scripted talking points. She needs to put her agenda in writing --- he/him/his ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Euripides 08/25/24 11:01:47 AM #2: |
Her website is just her bio and a donation page --- he/him/his ... Copied to Clipboard!
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name_unknown 08/25/24 11:05:15 AM #3: |
worked so well for Hillary and Trump has no platform ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ooger 08/25/24 11:08:49 AM #4: |
'k --- This signature is not political. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bluezero 08/25/24 11:11:37 AM #5: |
Well there goes my vote /s --- 7800X3D - 7900 XTX - 32GB 6000 - 1440p Ultrawide ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Euripides 08/25/24 11:11:41 AM #6: |
name_unknown posted... worked so well for Hillary He has at least posted his nonsensical talking points --- he/him/his ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_Popo 08/25/24 11:12:35 AM #7: |
Euripides posted... He has at least posted his nonsensical talking points We will have the most electricity --- Live action Hungry Hungry Hippos though, now that was a sport. ~Aeon Azuran ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Euripides 08/25/24 11:13:06 AM #8: |
And Trump has this: https://www.donaldjtrump.com/issues Harris has nothing like that on her site (yet) --- he/him/his ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SocialistGamer 08/25/24 11:16:32 AM #10: |
>Reinstate horny posting on GameFAQs.com --- Capcom is the best developer ever! Steam ID: SocialistGamer92 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Euripides 08/25/24 11:18:21 AM #12: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Why? I'm a staunch Harris supporter and will vote her 100%. It's a valid complaint, though, to say we're ~70 days out from an election and she hasn't stated what she's running on --- he/him/his ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The_Popo 08/25/24 11:19:02 AM #13: |
Euripides posted... we're ~70 days out from an election and she hasn't stated what she's running on Im not Trump and Im younger than Biden --- Live action Hungry Hungry Hippos though, now that was a sport. ~Aeon Azuran ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hmnut7 08/25/24 11:19:37 AM #14: |
She has more than a few times said what she's going to do. --- Starfire: "They are too numerous to fight. What shall we do?" Robin: "Fight anyway!" (pb) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Starks 08/25/24 11:20:03 AM #15: |
Need an interview and platform before Labor Day --- Paid for by StarksPAC, a registered 501(c)(4) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Euripides 08/25/24 11:20:21 AM #16: |
hmnut7 posted... She has more than a few times said what she's going to do. Yes, but hasn't put it in writing. --- he/him/his ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Irony 08/25/24 11:20:43 AM #17: |
She already said what her platform was --- See profile pic ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Euripides 08/25/24 11:23:52 AM #19: |
Ooooooranges posted... Prepare to get flamed and be called a Trumper by the brainless people on this board Hilarious. I've been nothing but left wing in 100% of my posts on this board, but they can try. https://apnews.com/article/democratic-2024-platform-harris-biden-convention-cb0b56d668b30baae1b44ed4bbe8be9c https://www.economist.com/briefing/2024/08/22/kamala-harris-has-revealed-only-the-vaguest-of-policy-platforms https://www.cbsnews.com/news/democratic-party-platform-climate-environment/ it's being talked about --- he/him/his ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlueTigerLion 08/25/24 11:36:12 AM #20: |
It so odd no one has posted an article with an entire list of her platform if she has one like a few said in this thread. Instead some are attacking TC over it. I think what is happening is Biden was the candidate and he had a platform and stuff he stood for. He got switched out for Kamala who hasn't really had to go on record on many issues. So Kamala hasn't had time to create a platform. The thing is other people are running for House/Senate seats with or without the Biden dropping out stuff. So the DNC should have had a platform out for the down ballot races by now. --- Hey now. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BrohammedAli 08/25/24 11:43:24 AM #21: |
Her platform is, and was never expected to be anything but, the Democratic Party platform. which it was under Biden. --- https://www.discogs.com/user/Nocoasts ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SSj4Wingzero 08/25/24 11:44:22 AM #22: |
name_unknown posted... worked so well for Hillary Trump has a platform...it's called Project 2025 --- Not changing this sig until the Knicks win the NBA Championship! Started 4/23/2010! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BlackScythe0 08/25/24 11:44:50 AM #23: |
Why do people keep saying she has no platform like they have no clue what she's going to do or something? Do you really think she is going to be radically different from the DNC platform or something you can pull up on the website? What are you looking for? Like literally all I need is "She doesn't want to be a dictator and she has no plans to get the military on US soil to put down expected protesters to some sort of awful plan" What do you want? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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El_Marsh 08/25/24 11:47:04 AM #24: |
Y'all don't read anything unless it's on Twitter anyway, so why fucking bother? It's pretty clear what her focus is from the speeches she makes and since most people are more into video than reading.... --- http://i.imgur.com/0APl48O.gifv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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lilORANG 08/25/24 11:51:02 AM #25: |
She's essentially running as incumbent. We know what she's planning --- Science and Algorithms ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Euripides 08/25/24 11:51:23 AM #26: |
BlackScythe0 posted... Why do people keep saying she has no platform like they have no clue what she's going to do or something? Do you really think she is going to be radically different from the DNC platform or something you can pull up on the website? No one is saying any of that. I'm saying she hasn't PUBLISHED an OFFICIAL agenda, like every candidate before her has. That DOESN'T mean she has no ideas or no ideologies or no proposals. --- he/him/his ... Copied to Clipboard!
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toreysback 08/25/24 11:51:53 AM #27: |
you know what she stands for. just go ahead and start ripping her for it. you don't need a written invitation --- we're all on a ship. we know where it's bound death comes calling. you won't hear a sound ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hmnut7 08/25/24 11:54:15 AM #28: |
Euripides posted... Yes, but hasn't put it in writing.You realize of course you are grasping. You think there is large group of undecided voters, who are reading both Kamala and Trump's websites looking for the "official" policies, but they refuse to watch any ads, videos, interviews or speeches. Fine, this is a criticism you can make against Kamala, she got all right answers but she didn't show her work. Okay professor take 5 points off her exams. But how many points are you taking off for the guy who shit on the exam, tried to kill study partner, grabbed female classmates by the vagina? --- Starfire: "They are too numerous to fight. What shall we do?" Robin: "Fight anyway!" (pb) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kimberly 08/25/24 11:54:19 AM #29: |
Euripides posted... She needs to put her agenda in writing I'm not really sure why she hasn't put it on her website yet either. She's talked to press outlets about the dim shape of her plans w/r/t taxes and supply-side housing investment, but it's odd they haven't been added yet to the site. (e: odd to me, not odd as in she is not acting like other candidates. i frankly don't know or care when candidates usually post their policy plans directly.) --- I'll be your guide when you wanna get lost I'll be the sword at your side at all cost ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CE_gonna_CE 08/25/24 11:57:55 AM #30: |
When your opponent is basically hanging themselves out to dry because they will simply not shut the fuck up , I cant really take issue with a strategy of say less in response to that. Less really is more, at times. --- "Creed made better Pearl Jam music than Pearl Jam did" - shockthemonkey ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Euripides 08/25/24 11:58:04 AM #31: |
toreysback posted... you know what she stands for. just go ahead and start ripping her for it. you don't need a written invitation huh? --- he/him/his ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KanWan 08/25/24 12:01:10 PM #32: |
Because she doesnt really stand for anything other than peoples projections and I was around at the time Nothing really wrong with that.. people nowadays dont really leave much room to discuss things anyways. The person who does would be instantly crucified and vilified the more they elaborated on certain issues. Without the trail of breadcrumbs, the best those crazies have is a speculation without merit and are much easier to shut up the day they come with so you think --- NP: Mega Man 7, Fire Emblem (GBA), Dragon Warrior III, Breath of Fire 1, The Minish Cap, Metal Walker, Harvest Moon: Friends of Mineral Town ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kimberly 08/25/24 12:02:19 PM #33: |
I think what Torey's saying is... She's spoken about her policy aims and many major publications have written stories about what she's said so far. The information is already out there, even if it's not on her website yet. So if you want to criticize it, go criticize it. You don't have to wait to say what you already want to say, if that was your goal. Just an assumption. --- I'll be your guide when you wanna get lost I'll be the sword at your side at all cost ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ClayGuida 08/25/24 12:02:40 PM #34: |
Euripides posted... And Trump has this:You realize she's only been the candidate for 5 weeks right? Trump's literally had 9 years for his policy. --- lolAmerica ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Relm_Arrowny_87 08/25/24 12:04:38 PM #35: |
It is becoming a right-wing talking point, nonsense though such a point is. She pretty much laid out her platform in her DNC speech. I'm guessing she will but just hasn't yet. Writing and editing something like that can surprisingly take several hours, and she's had the busiest month in human history. --- What a fuddy duddy. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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toreysback 08/25/24 12:05:39 PM #36: |
Euripides posted... huh? i said toreysback posted... you know what she stands for. just go ahead and start ripping her for it. you don't need a written invitation --- we're all on a ship. we know where it's bound death comes calling. you won't hear a sound ... Copied to Clipboard!
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loafy013 08/25/24 12:06:44 PM #37: |
ClayGuida posted... You realize she's only been the candidate for 5 weeks right?Saying 5 weeks is generous. She's officially been the candidate for less than 5 days. --- The ball is round, the game lasts 90 minutes. That's fact. Everything else, is theory. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SuperShake666 08/25/24 12:07:54 PM #38: |
Not Trump is an amazing start tbh --- "Look, if I was good at math, I wouldn't be on CE at 2:00 the morning clicking on topics about porn stars ****ing horses." - May 2017, Dash_Harber ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 08/25/24 12:08:01 PM #39: |
https://bad-faith-times.ghost.io/democrats-are-saying-no-to-leslie-knope-politics/ Its not only that the New York Times and other mainstream outlets would create the kind of coverage that is devoured and intentionally misinterpreted by far right propaganda outfits, but that these mainstream papers and news channels would run to the nearest centrist think tank or former Obama administration official now working for some insane right-wing Silicon Valley billionaire and ask them for their thoughts on the latest progressive policy ideas. The mealymouthed centrists, proudly proclaiming that better things arent possible, will dismiss the progressive idea was pie-in-the-sky and unrealistic and chastise the Democratic policymakers for not working with their Republican counterparts, who want a swift end to American self governance and have never asked Democrats for their input in policy making. Millennials know this formula well because we have seen it play out over and over again in what has been a maddeningly unfair fight between Democrats stuck in the 1990s and Republicans ready and willing to break down any democratic guardrail to get their way (All those supposed guardrails we read about after Trumps election: Theyre all gone). --- Please don't be weird in my topics ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 08/25/24 12:08:54 PM #40: |
loafy013 posted... Saying 5 weeks is generous. She's officially been the candidate for less than 5 days.I don't think we have to be this pedantic; no one was doubting that she would be the nominee by the middle of the week after Biden dropped out. --- Please don't be weird in my topics ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gwynevere 08/25/24 12:10:04 PM #41: |
Antifar posted... I don't think we have to be this pedanticHave you seen the topic we're posting in? --- A hunter is a hunter...even in a dream [She/they] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GrandConjuraton 08/25/24 12:10:52 PM #42: |
ooger posted... 'k --- Swansong, I can feel you fade. https://imgur.com/o21DN7r ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Euripides 08/25/24 12:12:11 PM #43: |
toreysback posted... i said A written invitation for what? I'm not aiming to tear apart her platform. I just want a leg to stand on when I'm arguing with chuds who claim that something she said in an interview in 2017 is "her platform" since she hasn't "officially" said otherwise --- he/him/his ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheHoldSteady 08/25/24 12:12:44 PM #44: |
Same as Biden but more empathic towards Palestine. --- If she said we partied, then I'm pretty sure we partied. I really don't remember. I remember we departed from our bodies. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 08/25/24 12:16:45 PM #45: |
Euripides posted... I just want a leg to stand on when I'm arguing with chuds who claim that something she said in an interview in 2017 is "her platform" since she hasn't "officially" said otherwise Anybody you're getting into a political argument with online is likely a committed partisan; this election will be won among voters who cannot name more than three Supreme Court Justices. --- Please don't be weird in my topics ... Copied to Clipboard!
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toreysback 08/25/24 12:17:10 PM #46: |
Euripides posted... A written invitation for what? I'm not aiming to tear apart her platform. I just want a leg to stand on when I'm arguing with chuds who claim that something she said in an interview in 2017 is "her platform" since she hasn't "officially" said otherwise never argue defensively. take the initiative. if they don't know her platform, then why are they against her? if you don't know her platform, why do you favor her? everyone already knows what everyone else stands for. we don't need no stinkin' white papers to argue with each other about --- we're all on a ship. we know where it's bound death comes calling. you won't hear a sound ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Diceheist 08/25/24 12:18:35 PM #47: |
It's especially weird since she could get away with just putting her own spin on Biden's platform. His was fine. This is like the one legitimate complaint about Harris. As a policy guy I can never fully get behind politicians who don't define themselves and take a stand. It comes off as being intentionally vague hoping people just assume the best about you. Yes I get we can just guess she supports Biden policies + the stuff she mentioned in speeches, but we shouldn't have to. Even Trump has a platform, despite people ignoring it in favor of Project 2025. Even RFK Jr. had a platform. These are joke candidates, you can't be more sloppy than them. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dark_Moon 08/25/24 12:19:36 PM #48: |
Personally I think it fair. A place that has it written down instead of trying to follow each speech and remembering what was said would be easier. --- Game Playing: The Legend of Heroes: Trails to Azure ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 08/25/24 12:23:13 PM #49: |
Diceheist posted... Even Trump has a platform, despite people ignoring it in favor of Project 2025.I think you should really consider how this undercuts the argument you're making here. Trump is clearly suffering for the presence of the details people have seen from Project 2025, and the existence of an official platform that differs is doing little to create distance between himself and those policy proposals. What incentive does Harris have to put out concrete detailed policies that 1) will be different from anything Congress ends up passing 2) will only result in NYT headlines about the cost --- Please don't be weird in my topics ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ooger 08/25/24 12:28:26 PM #50: |
Diceheist posted... Even Trump has a platform, despite people ignoring it in favor of Project 2025 Trump's platform is Project 2025. https://www.yahoo.com/news/movement-resurfaced-speech-trump-endorses-211152602.html --- This signature is not political. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BrohammedAli 08/25/24 12:30:45 PM #51: |
Why are we arguing with chuds and giving their words any intellectual merit? --- https://www.discogs.com/user/Nocoasts ... Copied to Clipboard!
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