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hockeybabe89
04/26/24 11:12:36 PM
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They'll make like... 12 dollars and then close the site or sell it off.

This is your modern Internet. Websites exist to do nothing but show ads and take people's money. If they aren't succeeding at either of those, they have no value. The greedy companies shitting up the Internet are determined to destroy any inch of the thing that isn't making them lots of money.

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ClayGuida
04/26/24 11:18:07 PM
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That's late stage capitalism.

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Smashingpmkns
04/26/24 11:20:10 PM
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hockeybabe89 posted...
Websites exist to do nothing but show ads
What ads?

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Gobstoppers12
04/26/24 11:20:17 PM
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It is what it is.

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TheHoldSteady
04/26/24 11:22:19 PM
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If only Ceej would come back and rescue us

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TMOG
04/26/24 11:23:35 PM
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This is what happens when a company whose usual level of "community interaction" consists of tiny comment threads at the bottom of articles buys a message board with a community that's existed for over two decades

I'm 100% convinced that nobody at Fandom has ever seen a message board prior to the acquisition
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Vicious_Dios
04/26/24 11:25:09 PM
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Alriiiiiiight, we get it.

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hockeybabe89
04/26/24 11:33:21 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
What ads?
The ones that we are supposed to turn off ad blockers to look at so Fandom can making money to continue running wikis and other sites into the ground.

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viewmaster_pi
04/26/24 11:36:51 PM
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please CNET, red ventures, whatever, save us

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pegusus123456
04/26/24 11:36:53 PM
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I mentioned this in the discord earlier, but I think they don't understand that the boards help support the guides. How many people are coming to this site exclusively to write guides? You already don't get a ton of new ones written for new games. Baldur's Gate 3 was massively popular and it has one walkthrough, a guide for each class all written by the same person, and one more druid guide.

Most people who want to do that kind of work aren't going to come to GameFAQs, write the guide, and then leave. They're going to make a video and post it on Youtube. Killing the boards cannibalizes the point of the site.

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CountCorvinus
04/26/24 11:37:17 PM
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I'm sure they have a reason.

I imagine acquiring GameFAQs was part of the GameSpot deal, but they don't actually want to pay to manage it so they're trying to drive enough people away to justify pulling the plug.


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pegusus123456
04/26/24 11:39:16 PM
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CountCorvinus posted...


I imagine acquiring GameFAQs was part of the GameSpot deal, but they don't actually want to pay to manage it so they're trying to drive enough people away to justify pulling the plug.
People keep saying this, but I don't see why they'd bother to do all this chicanery. If they wanted to pull the plug, they'd just do it.

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Mew
04/26/24 11:48:26 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
People keep saying this, but I don't see why they'd bother to do all this chicanery. If they wanted to pull the plug, they'd just do it.
Theyre not known for making logical decisions

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hockeybabe89
04/26/24 11:49:08 PM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
Alriiiiiiight, we get it.
Sucking up to Fandom to hope they ignore what you are?

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GrandConjuraton
04/26/24 11:57:15 PM
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ClayGuida posted...
That's late stage capitalism.


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Scardude
04/26/24 11:57:16 PM
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pegusus123456 posted...
People keep saying this, but I don't see why they'd bother to do all this chicanery. If they wanted to pull the plug, they'd just do it.
We don't know the terms they signed when they took it. Any time they could pull it but most likely they want to copy the guide systems to their wiki. And merge them. Less over head. And they don't really care to know why this place lasted this long. They just need the cost to run it be less than profit.

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ProfessorKukui
04/27/24 12:01:26 AM
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Next step is AI, then close the site for good.

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Baphometa
04/27/24 12:07:32 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
People keep saying this, but I don't see why they'd bother to do all this chicanery. If they wanted to pull the plug, they'd just do it.
They're literally putting money into guides. They definitely want them.

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02fran
04/27/24 2:36:10 AM
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I mean, if we're sold off all these boards can be reopened right? I think we want to be sold off at this point.
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nekrodev
04/27/24 2:38:29 AM
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02fran posted...
I mean, if we're sold off all these boards can be reopened right? I think we want to be sold off at this point.

Do you know about LUE? Cuz, uh...it will never be reopened lol. This type of shit is a death sentence.

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02fran
04/27/24 2:43:23 AM
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nekrodev posted...
Do you know about LUE? Cuz, uh...it will never be reopened lol. This type of shit is a death sentence.

LUE was canned due to an active real life incident involving a death and closed by CJayC who gave people sign-ups. All these recent closures are due to a Fandom policy that is void if we left Fandom.
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nekrodev
04/27/24 2:46:39 AM
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02fran posted...
LUE was canned due to an active real life incident involving a death and closed by CJayC who gave people sign-ups. All these recent closures are due to a Fandom policy that is void if we left Fandom.

Ah, yes, cuz corporate overlords are known to just give up and go away.

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02fran
04/27/24 2:47:50 AM
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nekrodev posted...
Ah, yes, cuz corporate overlords are known to just give up and go away.

That's why I said if we're sold off like TC hypothesized.
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Zikten
04/27/24 3:07:20 AM
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A lot of blame goes to CjayC for selling the site years ago. He could have stuck around and kept us safe. Or taken more care who he sold it to. He could have just gifted it to a friend to manage it
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STEROLIZER
04/27/24 3:08:04 AM
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hockeybabe89 posted...
They'll make like... 12 dollars and then close the site or sell it off.

This is your modern Internet. Websites exist to do nothing but show ads and take people's money. If they aren't succeeding at either of those, they have no value. The greedy companies shitting up the Internet are determined to destroy any inch of the thing that isn't making them lots of money.

I mean, this isnt a fan site. Its always been owned by large corporations. It literally sold for millions of dollars back in the day.

GameFaqs was in a great position to turn a massive profit during the era of smart phone mass adoption and the rise of mobile gaming circa 2010-2015 but for whatever reason the website just never modernized itself and released a mobile app with social media integration for logins and reshares and stuff.

At that point it seemed as if CBS Interactive was satisfied with just breaking even on ads & cross traffic. But by the time of the first sale to Red Ventures the site was probably no longer breaking even.

If thats the case then Red Ventures would have to make the decision to either take a loss by putting in money to modernize the platform and eventually get their investment back once it finally turned a profitor sell it off.

We know what they chose. Now Fandom is in a similar position and seem like they are going to try and rebuild the platform into profitability.

But that doesnt make them evil. This had NEVER been an independently operated fan site. Its just felt that way for the last 8 years or so due to the decline in traffic and lack of updates. But its not.

I dont get how so many people are painting them as the villains for trying to monetize their investment as opposed to just letting it slowly wither away and die.

It doesnt make any logical sense.

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_____Cait
04/27/24 3:21:24 AM
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They dont allow you to post gross stuff about women or give nazi dog whistles anymore.

Please go outside and see more than CE.

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CruelBuffalo
04/27/24 3:26:49 AM
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_____Cait posted...
They dont allow you to post gross stuff about women or give nazi dog whistles anymore.

Please go outside and see more than CE.

Antifar just got warned for joking about me sitting
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hockeybabe89
04/27/24 3:32:02 AM
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_____Cait posted...
They dont allow you to post gross stuff about women or give nazi dog whistles anymore.

Please go outside and see more than CE.
Imagine believing this. Are you on the payroll?

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hockeybabe89
04/27/24 3:41:14 AM
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STEROLIZER posted...
I mean, this isnt a fan site. Its always been owned by large corporations. It literally sold for millions of dollars back in the day.

GameFaqs was in a great position to turn a massive profit during the era of smart phone mass adoption and the rise of mobile gaming circa 2010-2015 but for whatever reason the website just never modernized itself and released a mobile app with social media integration for logins and reshares and stuff.

At that point it seemed as if CBS Interactive was satisfied with just breaking even on ads & cross traffic. But by the time of the first sale to Red Ventures the site was probably no longer breaking even.

If thats the case then Red Ventures would have to make the decision to either take a loss by putting in money to modernize the platform and eventually get their investment back once it finally turned a profitor sell it off.

We know what they chose. Now Fandom is in a similar position and seem like they are going to try and rebuild the platform into profitability.

But that doesnt make them evil. This had NEVER been an independently operated fan site. Its just felt that way for the last 8 years or so due to the decline in traffic and lack of updates. But its not.

I dont get how so many people are painting them as the villains for trying to monetize their investment as opposed to just letting it slowly wither away and die.

It doesnt make any logical sense.
I didn't say they were evil. I said Fandom sucks and it's proven that everything they touch turns to shit.

The Internet is fucking bullshit these days and companies like Fandom are a great example why.

Feedback? Communities? Anything decent? Companies have realized that they don't need any of that to make money on the Internet. So they fucking ruin everything because what is humanity gonna do? Give up the Internet?

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STEROLIZER
04/27/24 5:04:34 AM
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hockeybabe89 posted...
The Internet is fucking bullshit these days and companies like Fandom are a great example why.

Feedback? Communities? Anything decent? Companies have realized that they don't need any of that to make money on the Internet. So they fucking ruin everything because what is humanity gonna do? Give up the Internet?

If you were Fandom and GameFaqs fell into your laps which option would you choose:

  1. Put in money to modernize it and attract a younger, more viper audience
  2. Sell it off to a different corporation
  3. Just let it wither away and die on its own, even if its bleeding money
  4. Just let it be so long as its making a profit or breaking even, and then shut it down or sell it off as soon as it starts to bleed money
  5. Shut it down because its bleeding money


Those are really the only options available, and it seems as if Fandom chose option No. 1, and I feel as if the current userbase would love for Fabdom to choose option No. 3

but option three is a surefire way for someone to lose their livelihood because its just professional negligence.
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tripleh213
04/27/24 5:06:40 AM
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Fuck Fandom

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_____Cait
04/27/24 5:08:40 AM
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hockeybabe89 posted...
Imagine believing this. Are you on the payroll?

Yep, they hired me to get the ten active people on CE to turn against the site

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ai123
04/27/24 5:40:02 AM
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The messageboard format has been superceded as a method of driving engagement and getting eyes on ads.

Companies like Fandom just don't want them.

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punkfanalways
04/27/24 5:45:04 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
I mentioned this in the discord earlier, but I think they don't understand that the boards help support the guides. How many people are coming to this site exclusively to write guides? You already don't get a ton of new ones written for new games. Baldur's Gate 3 was massively popular and it has one walkthrough, a guide for each class all written by the same person, and one more druid guide.

Most people who want to do that kind of work aren't going to come to GameFAQs, write the guide, and then leave. They're going to make a video and post it on Youtube. Killing the boards cannibalizes the point of the site.

this is a very good point
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AwesomoSauce
04/27/24 5:46:53 AM
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How much money would it take to buy GameFAQs? Kinda sad a rich game developer that grew up here didn't just buy the site and server hosting for the next 100+ years so it could be free for all.

If I made a game like Cuphead or Minecraft that became a huge hit and made me a multi millionaire I would have bought Gamefaqs CE and made it available and free because I like the site.
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STEROLIZER
04/27/24 5:48:53 AM
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AwesomoSauce posted...
How much money would it take to buy GameFAQs? Kinda sad a rich game developer that grew up here didn't just buy the site and server hosting for the next 100+ years so it could be free for all.

If I made a game like Cuphead or Minecraft that became a huge hit and made me a multi millionaire I would have bought Gamefaqs CE and made it available and free because I like the site.

At least a million bucks
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punkfanalways
04/27/24 5:49:49 AM
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STEROLIZER posted...
but option three is a surefire way for someone to lose their livelihood because its just professional negligence.

wont someone think of the shareholders!
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GrandConjuraton
04/27/24 5:52:27 AM
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Stero is a known bootlicker.

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AwesomoSauce
04/27/24 5:55:07 AM
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STEROLIZER posted...
At least a million bucks

If only Notch/Mojang or someone from Rockstar or Epic Games grew up here like one of the lead CEOs or something. They probably would have just bought it.
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uwnim
04/27/24 6:04:26 AM
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Fandom wont just sell off GameFAQs. They might split us from gamespot if they try to integrate us into their wikis, but they arent going to sell us.

Fandom is a company that would see gamefaqs as something with actual value and not just that thing that goes along with gamespot.

We are currently in a early phase of them attempting to extract that value and it very well might destroy the site.

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STEROLIZER
04/27/24 6:06:11 AM
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punkfanalways posted...
wont someone think of the shareholders!

I mean, as fans of the site we kind of need to. Because if we dont, they just take away our toys. Its the whole this is why we cant have nice things thing
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Whiterun_Guard_
04/27/24 6:08:36 AM
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I know of a niche game's wiki leaving fandom bc fandom is just that bad.

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pegusus123456
04/27/24 6:14:19 AM
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Whiterun_Guard_ posted...
I know of a niche game's wiki leaving fandom bc fandom is just that bad.
Not just niche games. I know WoW (along with Hearthstone), Hollow Knight, and Terraria all did it. Googling just now led me to a reddit topic where it talks about Zelda doing it and also mentions that Runescape and Path of Exile did it.

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pokedude900
04/27/24 6:16:00 AM
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Minecraft also moved off of Fandom

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Jiek_Fafn
04/27/24 6:18:31 AM
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AwesomoSauce posted...
How much money would it take to buy GameFAQs? Kinda sad a rich game developer that grew up here didn't just buy the site and server hosting for the next 100+ years so it could be free for all.

If I made a game like Cuphead or Minecraft that became a huge hit and made me a multi millionaire I would have bought Gamefaqs CE and made it available and free because I like the site.
Google says it's worth around $60k. So it's more likely that they're simply not worth the effort to sell . People on CE are capable of buying it outright. Fandom most likely feels it's worth the gamble to try and do something with it since drawing up a contract to even sell it would make the sale a waste of time. $60k doesn't move their needle much in any direction and if that's the evaluation, it's probably only making like $10-15k a year and trending downwards.

Most likely the data from experiments they're doing are worth more to them than any reasonable price. We're essentially viewed as a cadaver

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Letsago
04/27/24 6:19:34 AM
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Whiterun_Guard_ posted...
I know of a niche game's wiki leaving fandom bc fandom is just that bad.
Undertale Yellow did. But so far the main Undertale wiki hasn't.

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