Current Events > In The Last Jedi, did Luke ACTUALLY try to (spoilers)

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Gobstoppers12
04/25/24 12:51:58 PM
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Kill Ben in the flashback?

As in, if Ben hadn't woken up in time, do you think Luke would have successfully killed him in his sleep?

I haven't asked in a while. Let's see what people think these days.

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DrizztLink
04/25/24 12:52:14 PM
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No.

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Gobstoppers12
04/25/24 12:52:38 PM
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Someone already voted yes. Lol

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RndmNmber1
04/25/24 12:52:51 PM
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Yes.
It's Rian Johnson, he'd have murderous Luke to subvert the expectation.

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pauIie
04/25/24 12:54:21 PM
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always hated this part of the story. luke, who redeemed space hitler, drew his saber on an emo kid that didn't do anything yet.

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the_real_Naruto
04/25/24 12:54:21 PM
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The point was that Ben was being paranoid.

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Gobstoppers12
04/25/24 12:55:23 PM
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pauIie posted...
always hated this part of the story. luke, who redeemed space hitler, drew his saber on an emo kid that didn't do anything yet.
Luke also viciously hammered his father down to the ground and cut Vader's hand off in a moment of rage, right after Vader threatened his sister.

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LonelyStoner
04/25/24 12:56:11 PM
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pauIie posted...
always hated this part of the story. luke, who redeemed space hitler, drew his saber on an emo kid that didn't do anything yet.
I need some elaboration on this front.

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K181
04/25/24 12:57:09 PM
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No, and people that think otherwise clearly had stopped paying attention because Luke specifically explained later that he wasn't going to. He basically had force spider senses, detected such an ominous presence around his nephew that he drew his saber without thinking but caught himself from actually doing anything, but in that process Ben saw a drawn lightsaber and jumped to a sensible conclusion from his perspective.

That event was specifically and directly explained how it made sense for both Luke to hate how he had reacted while still never intending to do harm and for Ben to think his uncle was about to murder him, and people still missed either or both.

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SAlYAN
04/25/24 12:59:09 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Luke also viciously hammered his father down to the ground and cut Vader's hand off in a moment of rage, right after Vader threatened his sister.
If you don't see the difference between beating down a massive, active threat, who is actively bent on going after your loved ones, while your friends are all getting blown up right outside the window, and trying to kill a sleeping child who poses no active threat because of bad things you think he might do one day eventually, then I don't know what to tell you.

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nekrodev
04/25/24 12:59:17 PM
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Luke admits, in a moment of weakness, he considered it, but he wouldn't have done it.

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rexcrk
04/25/24 1:00:34 PM
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This again? I always wonder if people who are confused by this actually watched the movie or if they just saw a bunch of YouTube videos about how bad it is and are trying to stir the pot

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Kurt_Russel
04/25/24 1:01:14 PM
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They should make a gritty movie about just this. Like, The Lighthouse, except with Ben and Luke.

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Gobstoppers12
04/25/24 1:01:44 PM
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78% voting correctly so far. I think last time I made this topic, the poll ended up with 61% saying no. Barely a D minus. A distressing number.

Let's see if we can do better as a community this time.

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Xethuminra
04/25/24 1:01:57 PM
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Luke's judgement & vision were clouded by the eminent darkness of Kylo & Snoke, and visions of the future confused him in that moment. Kylo, then Ben, ofc proceeded immediately to level the entire academy. "It all happened so fast."
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Gobstoppers12
04/25/24 1:03:10 PM
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SAlYAN posted...
and trying to kill a sleeping child
That's the real kicker isn't it? Did he try to kill a sleeping child, or did a flash of instinct cause him to turn his saber on after witnessing the death and destruction of everything he's ever loved in a powerful force vision?

Choose carefully. There is a correct answer.

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DrizztLink
04/25/24 1:04:45 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
Choose carefully
Not one of the options.

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SAlYAN
04/25/24 1:05:06 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
That's the real kicker isn't it? Did he try to kill a sleeping child, or did a flash of instinct cause him to turn his saber on after witnessing the death and destruction of everything he's ever loved in a powerful force vision?

Choose carefully. There is a correct answer.
It's funny that this "jedi spider sense" just makes them instinctively pull out a lightsaber any time they ahappen to sense the dark side.

That's why their sabers were always turned on during the clone wars. And why it was so easy for the inquisitors to spot them from a mile away. Kind of a dead giveaway.

Or maybe that's not how it works.

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Gobstoppers12
04/25/24 1:05:33 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
Not one of the options.
Take great care in making your selection*

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RetuenOfDevsman
04/25/24 1:06:29 PM
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I forget the dialog since I only saw it once and that was last decade, but as I understand it, he resolved to kill him but once he raised the blade he couldn't go through with it.

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Gobstoppers12
04/25/24 1:06:45 PM
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SAlYAN posted...
It's funny that this "jedi spider sense" just makes them instinctively pull out a lightsaber any time they ahappen to sense the dark side.
This isn't how it works, and you know it's not how it works. Luke peered into Ben's mind, and what he saw was so sudden, so shocking, so overwhelming that he felt an urgent need to defend himself and everyone he loved.

For only a second.

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ButteryMales
04/25/24 1:13:36 PM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
This isn't how it works, and you know it's not how it works. Luke peered into Ben's mind, and what he saw was so sudden, so shocking, so overwhelming that he felt an urgent need to defend himself and everyone he loved.

For only a second.
It's like the force is fucking stupid leading all Jedi to doom.

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RetuenOfDevsman
04/25/24 1:16:39 PM
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pauIie posted...
always hated this part of the story. luke, who redeemed space hitler, drew his saber on an emo kid that didn't do anything yet.
Luke was a wildcard. A sarcastic asshat who Obi-Wan/Yoda and Vader/Sidious took interest in to attempt to win him for their side. The story of the trilogy hinges around the question of whether he will turn to the dark side. Yoda even suggests there's a very real chance that he could. So the surprise ending is when, out of nowhere at the 11th hour, when the moment of truth comes, he actually turns Vader to the light instead.

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Gobstoppers12
04/25/24 1:43:43 PM
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72% correct. That's better than last time, but still not great.

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