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ctesjbuvf 04/17/24 9:56:24 AM #302: |
Day 1 Final Votals (in order)
[7] MZero - (Kirby), Red, Lopen, (Ulti), SBell, Ben, (Ulti), Kirby, Ctes, Knightz [3] Lopen - (Kirby), (Chang), Lea, Chang, (Ctes), (Corrik), (Kirby), Ulti [1] No Lynch - FD, (Kirby), (Chang), (Lea) [1] Ctes - (Lopen), Death, (Lopen), (Lopen) [1] FD - (MZero), (Ulti), (Corrik), (Ben), (Ulti), (Ulti), Corrik [0] Chang - (IGCD), (Knightz), (SBell), (Lopen), (Lopen), (Ulti), (Lopen), (Ulti) [0] Corrik - (Ulti), (Lopen), (Lopen), (Ulti) [0] Ben - (Knightz), (Ulti) [0] Lea - (Lopen), (Ben), (Lopen) [0] Kirby - (Corrik), (Chang) [0] Ulti - (Red) --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ctesjbuvf 04/17/24 9:58:57 AM #303: |
Obellisk posted...
Ctes, my change of heart on FD, is that a problem for you? Since you brought it up Your answer was fine I just glossed over it on this skim and was curious. Probably stood out more before you never actually placed the vote. --- Guinness Book of World Records is the name of the diary that belongs to azuarc, the winner of the Game of the Decade II guru contest. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Obellisk 04/17/24 10:00:27 AM #304: |
thanks for the votal corrections Ctes. greatly appreciated.
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ctesjbuvf 04/17/24 10:09:11 AM #305: |
I don't know, looking at it, given that the top lynches by the end were both town, I don't really think there's a lot of analysis to come from it. You can look at what people did when Lopen claimed but that's about it.
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Obellisk 04/17/24 10:22:58 AM #306: |
Scum knows that one of them is dead.
It's quiet... --- (\____/) ( SBell ) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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htaeD 04/17/24 10:26:37 AM #307: |
Isnt it also like 9 PM over there?
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PunishedBen 04/17/24 10:27:45 AM #308: |
ctesjbuvf posted...
I just think for looking at trends they can be better.Nothing to it except that i cant remember every purpose Lopen goes after. Hence the question mark. Those were the only players I could recall him having bigger spats with. --- https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/26864890/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Obellisk 04/17/24 10:28:25 AM #309: |
htaeD posted...
Isnt it also like 9 PM over there?over where? --- (\____/) ( SBell ) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Obellisk 04/17/24 10:29:09 AM #310: |
Ben respond to clothing issues immediately.
please and thank you good sir. --- (\____/) ( SBell ) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Enchantress 04/17/24 10:30:09 AM #311: |
Obellisk posted...
Ben respond to clothing issues immediately. --- Lea ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ItzKnightz 04/17/24 10:31:18 AM #312: |
Obellisk posted...
Ben respond to clothing issues immediately. --- "join the mafia, we're themed after Toy Story characters" Guide Status: gave up | I made Jujutsu Kaisen in Infinity Craft | ... Copied to Clipboard!
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htaeD 04/17/24 10:36:20 AM #313: |
Obellisk posted...
over where?America I meant AM I blame your weird time system :P --- Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Obellisk 04/17/24 10:40:25 AM #314: |
This isn't a good look, Ben.
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PunishedBen 04/17/24 10:41:22 AM #315: |
htaeD posted...
I worded that badly.I want to come back to this because the question Ctes asked of "Why", is important. Why would you be thinking about this unless you were on a team considering killing him at night and worrying that he's just bluffing? --- https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/26864890/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PunishedBen 04/17/24 10:42:01 AM #316: |
Obellisk posted...
Ben respond to clothing issues immediately.I'm getting caught up in order so havent seen it yet, but I guess i can jump right to this --- https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/26864890/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PunishedBen 04/17/24 10:45:51 AM #317: |
Yeah I didn't get any gifts at night. I was bluffing to see how Knightz would react and if he played along and I still thought he was town then I could use it for future bluffs or to keep protecting him from getting lynched. If there was any chance he was scum I thought this could potentially catch him in some way too
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Obellisk 04/17/24 10:46:47 AM #318: |
PunishedBen posted...
Yeah I didn't get any gifts at night. I was bluffing to see how Knightz would react and if he played along and I still thought he was town then I could use it for future bluffs or to keep protecting him from getting lynched. If there was any chance he was scum I thought this could potentially catch him in some way too And how'd that work out for ya? --- (\____/) ( SBell ) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Obellisk 04/17/24 10:48:09 AM #319: |
...by that I mean what did you learn?
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PunishedBen 04/17/24 10:50:09 AM #320: |
The explanation of him getting roleblocked and his confusion over what I was doing makes perfect sense to me, so, only makes him townier to me.
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PunishedBen 04/17/24 10:52:23 AM #321: |
Though I was never really worried about him. I was leaning more into the "There's no way Knightz is town because of the gift he gave me" angle as you could see and could only hope he'd play along.
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PunishedBen 04/17/24 10:52:41 AM #322: |
*No way knightz is scum
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Obellisk 04/17/24 10:56:01 AM #323: |
But why Benjamin. Would you walk into Day 2 and thank Knightz for a gift when you don't know who he gifted to? Why would you create a possible counter situation in the day. Why did you need to challenge Knightz who most people already thought was town including yourself.
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Obellisk 04/17/24 10:56:55 AM #324: |
You didn't know he targeted Kirby.
You didn't know he was roleblocked. You didn't know if someone alive had actually been gifted clothes. Why did you openly claiming to have a gift unless you know damn well that no one does. --- (\____/) ( SBell ) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Enchantress 04/17/24 10:57:06 AM #325: |
Seems pointless, but it doesn't really have a scum benefit unless specifically Knightz is also scum and fudged up their plan. I don't really think that's the case
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PunishedBen 04/17/24 11:03:14 AM #326: |
Obellisk posted...
But why Benjamin. Would you walk into Day 2 and thank Knightz for a gift when you don't know who he gifted to? Why would you create a possible counter situation in the day. Why did you need to challenge Knightz who most people already thought was town including yourself.Many potential reasons, depending on how things went. Having an extra "gift" in my pocket could have been used. At the end of the day, even if it all went nowhere, to generate more interactions and give us something to talk about like we are now. --- https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/26864890/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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htaeD 04/17/24 11:03:27 AM #327: |
PunishedBen posted...
Why would you be thinking about this unless you were on a team considering killing him at night and worrying that he's just bluffing? Because I did not really believe Lopen, but once I reasoned that he might not risk lying about being a tracker as scum, I wanted to consider if he could instead lie about it as town. Was just a part of me trying to analyze the end of day1. Not that I got much out of it since the people who stayed on Lopen also made clear they didnt believe Lopen and 2 of them are now sorta confirmed. --- Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PunishedBen 04/17/24 11:13:52 AM #328: |
htaeD posted...
Oh I did not think he would claim tracker as scum because there was (almost certainly) another killer out there that might kill him for it.You mean like a second bad faction? That seems like more of a leap than just thinking he wouldn't claim tracker as scum because he could be countered by a town tracker... --- https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/26864890/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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htaeD 04/17/24 11:17:59 AM #329: |
I already said that I was expecting that Lopen, if he did fake claim tracker, would take it back day2 and be all like 'yeah I lied, what about it?'
Also like I said, I was not ruling out that he could actually be tracker. --- Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Forceful_Dragon 04/17/24 11:29:39 AM #330: |
Obellisk posted...
You didn't know he targeted Kirby. This. All of this. --- ~C~ FD http://i.imgur.com/dGDfxaw.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PunishedBen 04/17/24 11:31:06 AM #331: |
changmas posted...
The first half of this question pinged me as slightly off for Ben, I think. Its actually not a strange question to ask in general and especially not the second question, but I wouldnt expect Ben to ask me what is the point of sending a message at all?. If he just asked whether my role was compulsive I wouldnt have thought anything of it."What is the point of sending it at all" is me asking, 1. what were you aiming to achieve by sending the message that you did that contained your identity, and 2. Why would Wallz make that a town role? I was hoping you could answer the latter from your perspective. Like if you could message after you were dead it would make more sense and have more of a point. You kind of answered the first part, which is that you were sending the message to try and confirm yourself. Honestly I thought if you answered this way it would make you scummier, so.... congrats I guess. Its just the kind of "Confirmable" that scum would get. I do have no doubts that you would want to have fun with the role as town. I guess if your role was exactly how its described then you would probably do what you did, so I'm surprised you arent mad about having a shitty basically vanilla role again if so. What makes it confirmable in your eyes? --- https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/26864890/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PunishedBen 04/17/24 11:34:19 AM #332: |
Obellisk posted...
You didn't know he targeted Kirby. Forceful_Dragon posted... This. All of this.Come on, why are you asking why? There are multiple town motivations to do so. I cant think of any scum motivations. What scum motivations are you thinking of? And if I was scum then I presumably WOULD know some of this, like that Knightz was roleblocked. >_> --- https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/26864890/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Obellisk 04/17/24 11:36:42 AM #333: |
PunishedBen posted...
And if I was scum then I presumably WOULD know some of this, like that Knightz was roleblocked. >_> all the more reason for you to open up the can of worms. --- (\____/) ( SBell ) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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htaeD 04/17/24 11:37:45 AM #334: |
Not unless you were on the other nontown team.
Also did you have more town motivations than the one you sorta gave? Why talk about them as if they are disconnected from you? --- Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheSultanOfSlam 04/17/24 11:42:39 AM #335: |
VOTALS
.... oh wait no one vote yet. --- YOU WILL BOW DOWN TO THE SULTAN Hello Here is a pineapple ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Obellisk 04/17/24 11:48:20 AM #337: |
[LFAQs-redacted-quote]
hmm. I said why are you all voting Lopen. I voted for Mzero and Not lopen. I told Lopen not to claim and to stop this garbage. The Claw can only do so much. --- (\____/) ( SBell ) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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htaeD 04/17/24 11:52:40 AM #339: |
Obellisk posted...
hmm. I said why are you all voting Lopen. I voted for Mzero and Not lopen. I told Lopen not to claim and to stop this garbage. Minor curiosity probably, but what do you mean by 'this garbage'? --- Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PunishedBen 04/17/24 11:53:23 AM #340: |
Forceful_Dragon posted...
I can buy the roleblock thinking on it. Kirby being power was a lucky shot and Lopen was probably an EK, so if Knightz is town and if there is a scum blocker then why not take the layup and block the guy who claimed he could give people gifts.I actually thought I WAS getting the gift last night because Knightz had winked at me. So...by that logic it wouldnt make sense for me to be on the scum team that roleblocked him. --- https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/26864890/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Obellisk 04/17/24 11:53:58 AM #341: |
htaeD posted...
Minor curiosity probably, but what do you mean by 'this garbage'? the bartering for kills with corrik and the piling of votes on lopen. --- (\____/) ( SBell ) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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PunishedBen 04/17/24 11:56:28 AM #342: |
htaeD posted...
Not unless you were on the other nontown team.Could potentially figure out if scum got the real gift depending on if they killed me at night or not (If they believed me). Or I could bluff that the gift was anything if needed to get more info. --- https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/26864890/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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htaeD 04/17/24 12:01:16 PM #344: |
Obellisk posted...
the bartering for kills with corrik and the piling of votes on lopen. Oh yeah that was garbage PunishedBen posted... Could potentially figure out if scum got the real gift depending on if they killed me at night or not (If they believed me). Or I could bluff that the gift was anything if needed to get more info. Well I was expecting one motivation to be you trying to draw the shot, so that sorta covers that at least. --- Violet IGN: Malta, Sword IGN: Pandora Home: Pandorian/JBURSQAVTAGA ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Obellisk 04/17/24 12:02:05 PM #345: |
UltimaterializerX posted...
Did Ben bluff before he as town could have known about roleblocks and such? yes. --- (\____/) ( SBell ) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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htaeD 04/17/24 12:02:31 PM #346: |
Though I dont know why you didnt say them right away
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PunishedBen 04/17/24 12:03:01 PM #347: |
ItzKnightz posted...
I picked Kirby because he asked for some clothing.Wait...wasn't that me? Not that it matters since you were roleblocked anyway. But just another thing proving that Knightz isnt on a team if so lol --- https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/26864890/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Obellisk 04/17/24 12:06:27 PM #349: |
pummeling Ben is fine but you can't take your info to bed tonight. we have to kill your guilty scan.
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PunishedBen 04/17/24 12:06:28 PM #350: |
Also just remembered from last night that Chang missed that Kirby died.
Its more likely then that he's just town and only open him up to scrutiny again if he's not on IGCD's team and NOT on the team that killed Kirby. --- https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/character/26864890/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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