Current Events > I thought Malenia was supposed to be hard? (Elden Ring)

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Ivany2008
03/18/24 4:43:44 PM
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My first time getting to her was in New Game+. Downed her in 4 tries. This isn't a bragging topic, as she destroyed me the first time I finished the cutscene. Rushed me before I could even summon my spirit, but she gets absolutely wrecked by Mohgs Sacred Spear + Mimic Tear+10. It's ability just drains her life faster than she has time to attack, and since most of her attention is on the spirit, I was able to freely use it on her.

The only thing is that I had to quickly equip a shield for the start of her 2nd phase. But past that, I've had more trouble with Elden Beast.
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Irony
03/18/24 4:44:36 PM
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Elden Ring on NG+ is the easiest game ever lmao

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Mechu
03/18/24 4:44:44 PM
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Ivany2008 posted...
Mimic Tear+10
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Crimsoness
03/18/24 4:44:59 PM
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Mimic Tear is basically easy mode for every boss

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Irony
03/18/24 4:45:06 PM
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Especially when you use mimic tear

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Dungeater
03/18/24 4:46:50 PM
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Malenia's challenge is immensely undermined by your kit.

Everyone has their own criteria for challenging. I would imagine people who don't bring in spammable bleed builds would find her much more difficult than u did, even with summons

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Ivany2008
03/18/24 4:47:53 PM
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Going to be honest though, the journey to get to her? I died SO MANY TIMES.
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Srk700
03/18/24 4:49:53 PM
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Mimic Tear+10

There's the reason why she was so easy.

My 1st playthrough I tried beating her without any summons and died a bunch of times. I eventually caved and used the MT, then proceeded to beat her 1st try.
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Crimsoness
03/18/24 4:50:28 PM
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Congrats either way, don't let people you tell you didn't do it the "right way'

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KajeI
03/18/24 4:50:33 PM
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Well, you used a S+++ tier weapon and the absolute uncontested best summon in the game (which also would've been using that weapon), in a series where bosses AI notoriously can't really handle multiple targets (though to be fair, Malenia's lifesteal mitigates this a bit), so yeah she'll definitely be a lot easier than most people who think she's hard say. Try her again 1v1 and see how many times you get your shit rocked.

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Dungeater
03/18/24 4:52:20 PM
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Crimsoness posted...
Congrats either way, don't let people you tell you didn't do it the "right way'
yeah, people will probably say you used cheese strats because they have a stick up their ass about summons

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Irony
03/18/24 4:53:36 PM
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Crimsoness posted...
Congrats either way, don't let people you tell you didn't do it the "right way'
No one said he didn't do it the right way but this is like people whining that Penance was too easy when they just used Yojimbo

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Southernfatman
03/18/24 4:53:40 PM
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I don't care what people say or how good they are at these games, Malenia is kinda cheap. If the game can "cheese" you, then I can "cheese" right back.

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DrizztLink
03/18/24 4:54:44 PM
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Dungeater posted...
yeah, people will probably say you used cheese strats because they have a stick up their ass about summons
I'd agree that a win is a win, but calling the fight easy without trying it the other way seems excessive.

Like I'm not clutching my pearls over it, just seems like it makes sense to check it out in the manner people usually mean first.

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BlueberryWaffle
03/18/24 4:54:52 PM
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Its all relative. It depends on when you fight her. By the time I actually got to her, my character was incredibly strong.

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Ivany2008
03/18/24 4:55:03 PM
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KajeI posted...
Well, you used a S+++ tier weapon and the absolute uncontested best summon in the game (which also would've been using that weapon), in a series where bosses AI notoriously can't really handle multiple targets (though to be fair, Malenia's lifesteal mitigates this a bit), so yeah she'll definitely be a lot easier than most people who think she's hard say. Try her again 1v1 and see how many times you get your shit rocked.

I wouldn't say its uncontested. I've been using Tiche a lot lately and if I'm being honest here, I prefer it to Mimic Tear. Tear is great if you have a specific weakness your trying to exploit, but Tiche avoids nearly all damage, hits like a truck and drains bosses fast.
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Mad-Dogg
03/18/24 4:55:32 PM
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Lol hey do what you gotta' do. You got it done.

I beat her on like my 6th try myself, but admittedly I started the game as the samurai class/preset and right from day 1 I had the intention of using the weeby deeby katanas and everything else that was dex, arcane and bleed related.

....to be fair again though, arcane as a stat was totally broken in a bad way and didn't even work for the first like, week the game was out I think? Something like that. I got my ass kicked a bit before that first patch came out that fixed the arcane stat, and next thing you know holy shit bleed is bodying like 95 percent of the game.

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Dungeater
03/18/24 4:56:08 PM
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DrizztLink posted...
I'd agree that a win is a win, but calling the fight easy without trying it the other way seems excessive
thats fair. i suspect tc was being a bit cheeky

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Dungeater
03/18/24 4:58:01 PM
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Ivany2008 posted...
I wouldn't say its uncontested. I've been using Tiche a lot lately and if I'm being honest here, I prefer it to Mimic Tear. Tear is great if you have a specific weakness your trying to exploit, but Tiche avoids nearly all damage, hits like a truck and drains bosses fast.
amon is also very good

destined death and black flame are both very OP

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Ivany2008
03/18/24 4:58:10 PM
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Dungeater posted...
thats fair. i suspect tc was being a bit cheeky

I was more or less just being happy that I killed her. Nothing more or less about it. Me beating her on my 4th try compared to the 80+ attempts I had against Radagon/Elden Beast before I even realized that Pearldrake talisman +1 existed.
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LoveLikeJazz
03/18/24 4:58:50 PM
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Ivany2008 posted...
My first time getting to her was in New Game+. Downed her in 4 tries. This isn't a bragging topic, as she destroyed me the first time I finished the cutscene. Rushed me before I could even summon my spirit, but she gets absolutely wrecked by Mohgs Sacred Spear + Mimic Tear+10. It's ability just drains her life faster than she has time to attack, and since most of her attention is on the spirit, I was able to freely use it on her.

The only thing is that I had to quickly equip a shield for the start of her 2nd phase. But past that, I've had more trouble with Elden Beast.
Stopped reading there lol

Full of shit.

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Dungeater
03/18/24 5:01:10 PM
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LoveLikeJazz posted...
Stopped reading there lol

Full of shit.
its possible tc was just riding the high and didnt stop to think about the factors surrounding his win. i know i pumped up plenty of my W's that boiled down to me only stomping cuz of X/Y/Z factors

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Ivany2008
03/18/24 5:11:46 PM
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LoveLikeJazz posted...
Stopped reading there lol

Full of shit.

Hey champ, I know you want to shoot cowboy but here are some things you need to know. A topic can be created where everyone has a discussion without the name calling. I was riding a high, and I know anyone would feel the same after defeating what is considered the hardest boss in ER. Did I beat her by myself without help? No. I did not.

But I'm not 20 years old with the reflexes of a youngster anymore. I'm nearing 40, so for me to actually beat a hard boss, your god damn right I'll be happy about it. As I would expect anyone to be, and I would be just as supportive if anyone came in and said they beat Sephiroth in KH2 on their 3rd attempt. So take your holier than thou attitude elsewhere.
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KalimariX8
03/18/24 5:12:35 PM
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Mechu posted...
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wanderingshade
03/18/24 5:14:06 PM
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(mimic tear and bleed weapon)

Oh okay never mind then

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radical_rhino
03/18/24 5:18:00 PM
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The developers fucked up and made mimic tear too strong.

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Irony
03/18/24 5:18:43 PM
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radical_rhino posted...
The developers fucked up and made mimic tear too strong.
You should have seen it at launch. It's been nerfed quite a bit since then

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