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Tyranthraxus 03/14/24 2:24:11 PM #52: |
GiftedACIII posted...
As long as the original main protagonist's story is wrapped up, time jumps (for new main protagonists), spin offs, and reboots/alternate dimensions all still have the original story ending. Although if the same story gets rebooted dozens of times that becomes a problem too. If you're only sticking to anime it might not seem like this is a thing but in manga it totally is. Let's look at Saint Seiya for a moment.
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xlr_big-coop 03/14/24 2:26:56 PM #53: |
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This. They have to come up with absolutely stupid plot points to restore the status quo, like spiderman and one more day --- :) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GiftedACIII 03/14/24 2:40:03 PM #54: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
If you're only sticking to anime it might not seem like this is a thing but in manga it totally is. I'm aware there's quite a few series that are long-running (although you seem to be jumping across multiple mediums in that post). I'm just saying that time jumps into new protagonists, spin-offs, and alternate dimension/reboots all end the original run and I prefer that than following the same character for decades. Of course, by that measure, repeated alternate dimension/reboots of the same character gets too much as well. --- </topic> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 03/14/24 2:48:49 PM #55: |
GiftedACIII posted...
I'm aware there's quite a few series that are long-running (although you seem to be jumping across multiple mediums in that post). I'm just saying that time jumps into new protagonists, spin-offs, and alternate dimension/reboots all end the original run and I prefer that than following the same character for decades. Of course, by that measure, repeated alternate dimension/reboots of the same character gets too much as well. I'm just saying it's not like manga is one guy from Start to finish 100% of the time. It can and does mirror Western comics which are done up by multiple authors at the same time with different ideas, some comics get animated, some don't, some animation is original and has no comic, and auxiliary non comic/animation material exists. The stuff being complained about here in the West is predominantly just "Big 2" comics. That's not the case for most comics. Only the most popular ones. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sheiky-Baby 03/14/24 2:51:39 PM #56: |
Well, there's Dragon Ball. And some of the villains have been brought back like Frieza, Broly, and Cell. I think a better question would be, is this guy better for business dead, or alive? Guys like Joker are worth way more alive. Atleast in the comics. He actually died in the 1989 film.
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ellis123 03/14/24 2:53:14 PM #57: |
Sheiky-Baby posted...
Guys like Joker are worth way more alive. Atleast in the comics. He actually died in the 1989 film.The Joker died in his second appearance in the comics. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sheiky-Baby 03/14/24 2:57:38 PM #58: |
ellis123 posted...
The Joker died in his second appearance in the comics. Sheiky-Baby posted... I think a better question would be, is this guy better for business dead, or alive? Guys like Joker are worth way more alive. --- "Make pain your best friend, and you'll never be alone." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GiftedACIII 03/14/24 2:58:23 PM #59: |
Tyranthraxus posted...
I'm just saying it's not like manga is one guy from Start to finish 100% of the time. It can and does mirror Western comics which are done up by multiple authors at the same time with different ideas, some comics get animated, some don't, some animation is original and has no comic, and auxiliary non comic/animation material exists. And I don't read those manga either. I didn't complain about any western comic, I just mentioned my own preferences. You should reread my posts in the topic since I think you confused them with other people's posts. --- </topic> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guide 03/14/24 3:01:24 PM #60: |
To be fair, it's not that DC or Marvel have single, continuous storylines. They're more a series of stories that they decide to say happened in the same continuum, except for when they don't, except for when they do. There's an obsession with officially pretending like it's all one big universe, even when consistency is never a thing beyond individual storylines, and sometimes not even then.
The only difference between Batman villains dying or not is that the dead villain timelines are treated as their own isolated canons... Unless it's time to restart the multiverse again, then some author down the line may decide "oh actually that did happen, but now it didn't happen." --- evening main 2.4356848e+91 https://youtu.be/Acn5IptKWQU ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Foppe 03/14/24 3:01:34 PM #61: |
Joker have cheated death so many times.
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Sheiky-Baby 03/14/24 3:03:47 PM #62: |
Japan actually have their own multiverses as well, but only in those cross-over fighting games like JUMP Ultimate Stars. Loved that game on the DS.
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ellis123 03/14/24 3:08:34 PM #63: |
Sheiky-Baby posted...
Japan actually have their own multiverses as well, but only in those cross-over fighting games like JUMP Ultimate Stars. Loved that game on the DS.Super Sentai. --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LonelyStoner 03/14/24 3:10:40 PM #64: |
The writers of Batman are the biggest offenders of this trope. They think Bruce killing the Joker to save thousands of lives would make him as insane as the Joker (even though Bruce is already pretty nutty). I dont think Batman would ever get to a place as bad as Joker, so I have qualms with that argument on many fronts.
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Foppe 03/14/24 3:12:39 PM #65: |
Sheiky-Baby posted...
Japan actually have their own multiverses as well, but only in those cross-over fighting games like JUMP Ultimate Stars. Loved that game on the DS.Or RPGs on the Nes. https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/f/f24c780b.jpg --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarcyWarcy 03/14/24 3:16:44 PM #66: |
idk why people read stuff mostly meant for children and teenagers and get so confused and huffy about a common message in them being "killing people is bad." if you want to read or watch stuff with philosophical nuance there's a ton of stuff out there for you, you just have to stop being shy and step out of your spandex and cal arts comfort zone
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s0nicfan 03/14/24 3:17:48 PM #67: |
LonelyStoner posted...
The writers of Batman are the biggest offenders of this trope. They think Bruce killing the Joker to save thousands of lives would make him as insane as the Joker (even though Bruce is already pretty nutty). I dont think Batman would ever get to a place as bad as Joker, so I have qualms with that argument on many fronts. Never underestimate Marvel/DC's ability to tell awful stories based around what-ifs like this: https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Bruce_Wayne_(Earth_-22) --- "History Is Much Like An Endless Waltz. The Three Beats Of War, Peace And Revolution Continue On Forever." - Gundam Wing: Endless Waltz ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ellis123 03/14/24 3:21:06 PM #68: |
s0nicfan posted...
Never underestimate Marvel/DC's ability to tell awful stories based around what-ifs like this:https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/forum/2/20891d8f.jpg --- "A shouted order to do something of dubious morality with an unpredictable outcome? Thweeet!" My FC is in my profile. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DnDer 03/14/24 4:59:56 PM #69: |
MarcyWarcy posted...
cal arts There's a moving target, if ever there was one. Also, given how it was coined it, what it turned into, and why, it's evolved into a dog whistle for... bad people with bad political opinions... in case you're not aware. With how you used it, maybe you are. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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garan 03/14/24 5:03:10 PM #70: |
Southernfatman posted... So villains can be kept alive forever and writers don't have to come up with new ones. This. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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superbot400 03/14/24 5:05:57 PM #71: |
Damn_Underscore posted...
Japanese anime/manga heroes dont have this issue at all, and their worlds are better off for itI dont know what comics you read but thats not accurate at all. Its the Big two. Even if you do kill a villian, they can come back Secondly being aganist the death penalty isnt a crazy position. There are murders that got light penalties in real life. I dont understand why people think its surprising that some heroes do not want to kill. --- http://spinsulin.freeforums.org/the-fantastic-four-respect-thread-t4436.html, my huge ass respect thread. You won't see it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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superbot400 03/14/24 5:08:45 PM #72: |
-ZIO- posted...
Vegeta was a villain. Frieza is a villain. Buu was a villain.Also people are lying out of their teeth if they think Japanese writer avoid killing certain characters because theyre popular. This topic is an excuse to whine about American Comics. --- http://spinsulin.freeforums.org/the-fantastic-four-respect-thread-t4436.html, my huge ass respect thread. You won't see it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MarcyWarcy 03/14/24 6:43:17 PM #73: |
DnDer posted...
There's a moving target, if ever there was one. i dont really care about the politics of cartoons, or even really how they look most of the time, so i am totally uninterested in what that has come to mean with evil people on twitter. i'm most of them are made with very simplistic moral messages in mind, which is absolutely fine, but too many people tend to fall down a rabbit hole of demanding that cartoons of that style grow up along with them when those moral messages begin to feel hollow and cater to them instead of the demographics they have always been made for. if you can enjoy cartoons as an adult, cool, i can too. but people expected stuff like steven universe to end with the villains in the hague, when in reality they would be better served at looking at other mediums for that kind of content. --- Looks like this gamer's paradise has turned into a gamer's hell............................................... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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-ZIO- 03/14/24 7:50:01 PM #74: |
Man, Bleach was also infamous for being agnostic of letting anyone die.
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