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03/13/24 2:02:56 PM
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Yawn_Master2
03/13/24 4:17:09 PM
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While I'd love for Chinese citizens to experience the greatness of increased standard of livings, their system of government and those that run it should be feared. They don't value non-Chinese human life, and do a lot of nefarious stuff to undermine the western world.

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Hikikomori
03/13/24 4:18:38 PM
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I love Chinese food. > American food any day

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TheLiarParadox
03/13/24 4:24:08 PM
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Kind of, but only because of how other countries, especially USA, will act out as their power and influence diminishes.

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Yawn_Master2
03/13/24 4:25:28 PM
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TheLiarParadox posted...
Kind of, but only because of how other countries, especially USA, will act out as their power and influence diminishes.

You care less about a Chinese run world order and more about the western response to it?

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UnholyMudcrab
03/13/24 4:28:42 PM
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China is on the verge of a demographics crisis

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C-zom
03/13/24 4:32:01 PM
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China is doing horribly internally and that has been talked about as early as the Nixon administration. Hearing more it'll come to a powder keg situation in 5-10 years.

Geopolitically the scariest margins that can affect the "west" are a strengthened Eurasian Bloc (Putin's main goal) or the radicalization of the EU through avenues of familiarity. Look at Germany these days...

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eggcorn
03/13/24 4:32:47 PM
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Not a fan of China tbh. They like to bully smaller countries.

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ironman2009
03/13/24 4:33:28 PM
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No

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TroutPaste
03/13/24 4:35:55 PM
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They probably wouldn't mess with the US or any Eurocentric perspective. It would be places you barely think about... former USSR states, South East Asia, Indonesia

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DarkDoc
03/13/24 4:43:17 PM
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Yawn_Master2 posted...
While I'd love for Chinese citizens to experience the greatness of increased standard of livings, their system of government and those that run it should be feared.

They'd say the same thing about America. And with good reason.

Yawn_Master2 posted...
They don't value non-Chinese human life

They'd say the same thing about America. And with good reason.

Yawn_Master2 posted...
and do a lot of nefarious stuff to undermine the western world.

They'd say the same thing about America. And with good reason.
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Yawn_Master2
03/13/24 5:03:16 PM
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DarkDoc posted...
They'd say the same thing about America. And with good reason.

They'd say the same thing about America. And with good reason.

They'd say the same thing about America. And with good reason.

You don't know what you're talking about. China doesn't have any recent record of supporting human rights efforts, and actively dissapears dissidents, brainwashings and kills Uyguyrs, and trains and supports hackers (their own military hackers, Chinese criminal organizations, North Korean hackers, etc.) to wreak havoc on the west.

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Yawn_Master2
03/13/24 5:03:47 PM
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TroutPaste posted...
They probably wouldn't mess with the US or any Eurocentric perspective. It would be places you barely think about... former USSR states, South East Asia, Indonesia

They are currently engaging in acts of war against the west through cyber attacks.

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Voidgolem
03/13/24 5:09:18 PM
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I have no particular opinion beyond finding the money entertainment companies chase by trying to tap into that market very tiresome.

I want a good movie, not the most "we cannot rock the boat with this so we kept interesting parts short enough to remove or CG over". I don't *want* 500 bad hoyoverse-clone gacha games, I don't even like the original ones!

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ShineboxPhil
03/13/24 5:10:12 PM
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https://youtu.be/rILKm-DC06A

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PaperSplash
03/13/24 5:11:08 PM
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Their government and military, yes.
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garan
03/13/24 5:12:20 PM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
China is on the verge of a demographics crisis


And their economy is going to collapse one of these days as well. Pretty much the entire housing/construction business there is one giant Ponzi scheme.
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DarkDoc
03/13/24 7:54:23 PM
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Yawn_Master2 posted...
China doesn't have any recent record of supporting human rights efforts, and actively dissapears dissidents, brainwashings and kills Uyguyrs

They'd say the same thing about America. And with good reason.

Yawn_Master2 posted...
and trains and supports hackers (their own military hackers, Chinese criminal organizations, North Korean hackers, etc.) to wreak havoc on the west.

They'd say the same thing about America. And with good reason.
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Glob
03/13/24 8:00:31 PM
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Given that I live in a country that China was giving shit to for a thousand years or so, yeah.
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Yawn_Master2
03/13/24 8:12:36 PM
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DarkDoc posted...
They'd say the same thing about America. And with good reason.

They'd say the same thing about America. And with good reason.

dude, Ive worked with people in the national defense industry. You have no idea what youre talking about but apparently you think its cool to same thing both sides against America. Good luck with that.

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thronedfire2
03/13/24 8:14:41 PM
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what is this, the 1980s? they've already risen.

they're not even going to have to go war to defeat the US, all they have to do is stop importing/exporting our goods for a month and our economy would be destroyed. that's why them and Russia have been focusing on cyber warfare. we work on cyber warfare too, but the US is the biggest economy so it's always going to be the biggest target

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Smashingpmkns
03/13/24 8:19:52 PM
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I'll always be more afraid of what the American government does in response to whatever China does

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BigB0ss13
03/13/24 8:21:59 PM
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Not at all. I am not worried about China going to other countries and slaughtering people and ruining millions of lives just for oil like the U.S. does with a giant smile and no regrets
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Fenriswolf
03/13/24 8:26:19 PM
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Yawn_Master2 posted...
They don't value non-Chinese human life

Like how the US government cares about refugees at the border, or dead kids in Gaza?

Yawn_Master2 posted...
and do a lot of nefarious stuff to undermine the western world.

LOL it's the US that's trying to contain China by building military bases across the Asia Pacific. They're okay with China producing cheap goods, but as soon as they go high tech it's suddenly a problem.

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Scardude
03/13/24 8:27:54 PM
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garan posted...
And their economy is going to collapse one of these days as well. Pretty much the entire housing/construction business there is one giant Ponzi scheme.
They have many vacant condo high risers that are empty.

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Samus0075
03/13/24 8:28:50 PM
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If China's ppl rose up against the CCP they wouldn't be that bad .
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ButteryMales
03/13/24 8:30:13 PM
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Yawn_Master2 posted...
dude, Ive worked with people in the national defense industry.
You investigated your co-workers and found you all did nothing wrong? You don't get credibility saying you worked for the government it just makes you look biased.
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C_Pain
03/13/24 8:32:11 PM
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No.

They'd say the same thing about America. And with good reason.

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thronedfire2
03/13/24 8:33:12 PM
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Scardude posted...
They have many vacant condo high risers that are empty.

and the US is on a trend where millionaires (and many Chinese investors) will own ALL the rental housing in the entire country.

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Fenriswolf
03/13/24 8:33:28 PM
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Scardude posted...
They have many vacant condo high risers that are empty.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2021-09-01/chinese-ghost-cities-2021-binhai-zhengdong-new-districts-fill-up

Come again?

Samus0075 posted...
If China's ppl rose up against the CCP they wouldn't be that bad .

Ahh a bloody civil war is a great idea!!! /S

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Kuja_88
03/13/24 8:55:12 PM
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Yawn_Master2 posted...
You don't know what you're talking about. China doesn't have any recent record of supporting human rights efforts, and actively dissapears dissidents, brainwashings and kills Uyguyrs, and trains and supports hackers (their own military hackers, Chinese criminal organizations, North Korean hackers, etc.) to wreak havoc on the west.

I notice this

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thronedfire2
03/13/24 8:58:08 PM
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Samus0075 posted...
If China's ppl rose up against the CCP they wouldn't be that bad .

why would they do that? in retaliation for bringing millions of people out of poverty?

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Fenriswolf
03/13/24 9:01:03 PM
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Yawn_Master2 posted...
supports hackers (their own military hackers, Chinese criminal organizations, North Korean hackers, etc.) to wreak havoc on the west.

People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones

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tripleh213
03/13/24 9:13:14 PM
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More worried about Trump might do

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DarkDoc
03/16/24 9:30:56 AM
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Yawn_Master2 posted...
dude, Ive worked with people in the national defense industry. You have no idea what youre talking about but apparently you think its cool to same thing both sides against America. Good luck with that.

I didn't quite understand your reply, but I got enough to realize you think America is great (in spite of their wars, pollution, hacking, etc), simply because you happen to live in America. And that you've been brainwashed enough to think every other country (especially China) is an enemy.
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mustachedmystic
03/16/24 9:40:27 AM
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thronedfire2 posted...
they're not even going to have to go war to defeat the US, all they have to do is stop importing/exporting our goods for a month and our economy would be destroyed.
And just what do you think would happen to their economy? The truth is there are other low income countries to produce our stuff, is there another first world nation with 340 million people for China to export stuff to if they were to stop supplying America?

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Yawn_Master2
03/16/24 3:17:01 PM
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DarkDoc posted...
I didn't quite understand your reply, but I got enough to realize you think America is great (in spite of their wars, pollution, hacking, etc), simply because you happen to live in America. And that you've been brainwashed enough to think every other country (especially China) is an enemy.

Their are books and methods to improve reading comprehension.

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FortuneCookie
03/16/24 3:18:36 PM
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How can the US fall to Chinese communism if the US is going to fall to fascism? Can we at least make up our minds about which evil overlords we're going to have in the immediate future?

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Zwijn
03/16/24 3:20:15 PM
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Not even a little bit.
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__starsnostars
03/16/24 3:33:04 PM
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TheLiarParadox posted...
Kind of, but only because of how other countries, especially USA, will act out as their power and influence diminishes.


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