Board 8 > What six Pokemon are on the Sinnoh League Hall of Fame?

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No, not really a topic series. But it's something that I always thought about and when BDSP came out it became even more clear.
That it seems like most players that played Sinnoh had very similar teams
As they almost always consisted of-
Starter
Staraptor
Bibarel
Luxray

Then you have either-
Togekiss, Lucario, Garchomp

Spiritomb, Roserade, Milotic, Lucario, Garchomp, and then either Togekiss or Gastrodon.

rapidash for being the nonstarter fire type

Bibarel (HM Slave 1)
Tropius (HM Slave 2)
Lucario (free Riolu plus pushed hard)
Luxray (rad wicked cool shades etc.)
Starter
Comfort poke

Dante posted...

rapidash for being the nonstarter fire type

Also that

Can confirm I picked Turtwig and used Rapidash in my first Diamond run.

This depends on if you have a friend to trade with to evolve Machoke/Haunter/Kadabra

I think I had:

Rampardos
Rapidash
Abomasnow
Drifblim
Slowbro
Drapion

Very first thing I did upon getting Platinum was trade for all three starters.

Empoleon
Torterra
Infernape
Umbreon
Togekiss
Lucario

All the starters are super viable in dp and I think that really helped the games become so loved

Also Staraptor is best bird so of course they're on every team

Mine was still one of my favourite teams ever:
Infernape, Staraptor, Alakazam, Rhyperior, Weavile, Garchomp

Loved all of it

First time playing through Platinum, only three Pokmon accompanied me to the Hall of Fame.

Empoleon
Umbreon (evolved from the free Eevee you get)
Giratina

Next time taking on the Elite Four, it was those three again (Giratina with the Griseous Orb now), as well as:

Espeon (evolved from a female Eevee I went and caught)
Lucario
Eevee (bred from Umbreon and Espeon, the first Pokmon I ever bredyes, just plain old Eevee).

I lost my save but
Infernape
Staraptor
Floatzel
Luxray
Gardevoir
Garchomp

As basic as it can be

Infernape
Staraptor
Luxray
Floatzel
Lucario
Garchomp

This is the most basic Sinnoh Team, easily. Togekiss wasn't in DP before post game.

ctesjbuvf posted...

Infernape
Staraptor
Luxray
Floatzel
Lucario
Garchomp

This is the most basic Sinnoh Team, easily. Togekiss wasn't in DP before post game.

honestly would take Dialga/Palkia over Garchomp

LiquidOshawott posted...

honestly would take Dialga/Palkia over Garchomp

That's reasonable yeah, I can accept that.

I mean if we're counting our PERSONAL teams, I had Yanmega/Banette/Clefable/Torterra/Golduck (shiny) and one other that isn't readily springing to mind.

I don't think I've ever used a Bibarel against Cynthia. But Staraptor and Luxray were always mainstays of mine. In Shining Pearl, I think the six I used against the E4 were Empoleon, Houndoom, Mismagius, Toxicroak, Mamoswine, and Vespiquen. Given how the games were set up in Gen 8, I rotated a fuck ton of Pokemon. Hand-picked the six for the E4 but otherwise didn't pay as much mind, which made for a nice challenge.

I know my Togekiss was the MVP in Platinum, and I think I had a Roserade that time too.

The first time I played through Diamond, my final team was Empoleon, Staraptor, Luxray, Lopunny, Rampardos, Skuntank.

my first team had a wormadam, so I'm automatically some kind of freak outlier.

Infernap
Floatzel
Staraptor
Garchomp
Roserade
Lucario

Togekiss replaces one of these in Platinum

in a way i kind of expected more people to say Drifblim because the weekly Drifloon "event" stood out as something to me as a thing people would just "do" if they were, you know, checking guides here or on serebii or marriland, but not like important enough to be treated as a strictly trophy mon like the legendaries or rotom

having Garchomp on the other hand by E4 is something I definitely didn't do on a first run given where it was lol (maybe just a me thing but even while knowing where it was, it felt like it wasn't really meant to be accessed that early, so i just didn't till it was way below the rest of my team. early game dragon rage also just made it pretty scary to deal with tbh)

anyway yeah starters+staraptor+luxray+lucario for me prob, while bibarel definitely makes a lot of teams for obv reasons i don't know if it stays in enough teams for E4 to make the 6 (it's definitely still a lot though)

ctesjbuvf posted...

Infernape
Staraptor
Luxray
Floatzel
Lucario
Garchomp

This is the most basic Sinnoh Team, easily. Togekiss wasn't in DP before post game.

4/6 were exactly my team, with the last two replaced by Roserade and Hippowdon.

UF8 posted...

having Garchomp on the other hand by E4 is something I definitely didn't do on a first run given where it was lol (maybe just a me thing but even while knowing where it was, it felt like it wasn't really meant to be accessed that early, so i just didn't till it was way below the rest of my team. early game dragon rage also just made it pretty scary to deal with tbh)

Garchomp is available after the second gym in Platinum, so people are gonna go for it early if they can.

Hbthebattle posted...

Garchomp is available after the second gym in Platinum, so people are gonna go for it early if they can.

it's also in a hidden location though is what i mean. i was definitely a weirdo about this but it just felt like... you know. i was also the type of person to pick out turtwig as a starter most runs not just because i think torterra rules but also because it felt wrong for the rival to have anything other than infernape, i was extremely conscious about not taking advantage of walkthrough knowledge unfairly for that too since it just felt to me like they put gible where they did as... kind of also a trophy mon in a way. not like, anywhere near feebas tier or anything like that but still

part of it was also admittedly because i didn't really want to use something with better stats than the starter.. i just kind of take having a "canon" feeling run to an extreme...

i also get that this is a weird stance to take straight after also talking about expecting drifblim to show up once or twice here but idk the drifloon thing feels like a "fated encounter" kind of deal compared to it

no, I get what you mean, that's why Lucario (and Togekiss) are on my list. Most Kanto players pick up Snorlax and an Eeveelution, most Johto players use the Red Gyarados, most BW2 players end up using N's Zorua, most SwSh players end up using Toxtricity. I just think Garchomp, as the one pseudo who can be obtained early without grinding the game corner for 1 million years, gets a lot of play.

It also kinda helps that you get Garchomp at the second lowest level of any pseudo, and Gabite is rare for a middle stage pseudo in that it actually has decent enough stats where it isn't a drag on the team until it fully evolves.

Hbthebattle posted...

no, I get what you mean, that's why Lucario (and Togekiss) are on my list. Most Kanto players pick up Snorlax and an Eeveelution, most Johto players use the Red Gyarados, most BW2 players end up using N's Zorua, most SwSh players end up using Toxtricity. I just think Garchomp, as the one pseudo who can be obtained early without grinding the game corner for 1 million years, gets a lot of play.

perhap true, like i said i half expect most people to spot it well after leveling their team past it, but i guess there's always the inevitable daycare grind to compensate though, as that's what you've def implied for the eggmons you mentioned and i don't contest it since i totally did it myself... still, for me at least it still goes back to just it not feeling super right to use compared to "thing tied to event in game" and especially just "funny secret cave mon you're probably not meant to find out about till later on" but that places a lot of faith on people lol

on my end, i think i went back and dealt with wayward b1f stuff after getting strength etc and i did consider using it but also was more tempted to hatch better ones for postgame (and then i don't think i ever even got a ditto, at least on that playthrough lol. pokeradar sucks!)

i wonder how many players nowadays try doing the mew glitch in gen 1 now lol

in general i think other gens might have this be more interesting. Diamond and Pearl especially lock many of their new Pokemon as postgame only evolutions or Legendaries (and also Rotom), and has a famously limited regional dex. Like, what does the archetypical Unova hall of fame team look like? Starters, Krookodile, Chandelure? Maybe Stoutland?

UF8 posted...

in a way i kind of expected more people to say Drifblim

I think there's a simple reason why most people don't use Drifblim: its movepool is rancid ass so you do low damage, on top of it struggling statwise in most areas. It's the same with GSC Sudowoodo and Shuckle (low level and low stats), GSC Togepi (Togetic is not enough of a reward to bother), and RSE/ORAS Kecleon and Castform (low stats, bad moves).

Gift and Overworld Encounters do often get used, but only if they're worth in the first place.

There's one big reason why nobody used Drifblim, and that's because it was an evolution of a Pokemon that you could only find on Fridays in an area you had no reason to revisit (and the best part is if you cleared it on a Friday, Drifloon won't even show up until the next Friday). By the time that Drifloon actually showed it, it was so underleveled that you'd have to make a concerted effort to actually use it.

Let's see, the teams I used on my first playthrough of each generation:

Red: Venusaur, Hitmonchan, Zapdos, Arcanine?, ???, ???
Silver: Typhlosion, Ampharos?, Noctowl?, ???, ???, ???
Ruby: Blaziken, Gardevoir, Aggron, Shiftry, Dustox, Pelipper
Diamond: Empoleon, Luxray, Staraptor, Lopunny, Skuntank, Rampardos
White: Lilligant, Chandelure, Darmanitan, Excadrill, Archeops, Galvantula
Y: Delphox, Vivillon, Aegislash, Aurorus, Sylveon, Pangoro
Sun: Decidueye, Midday Lycanroc, Salazzle, Kommo-o, Solgaleo, Primarina (traded)
Sword: Rillaboom, Corviknight, Drednaw, Toxtricity, Dragapult, Frosmoth
Scarlet: Cyclizar, Meowscarada, Ceruledge, Kilowattrel, Revavroom, Quaquaval (traded)

My original red playthrough is something like Charizard, low leveled Raticate and Zapdos.

I think we have to get to gen 3 before I don't power through with only an overleveled starter and the box legendary (or Zapdos), though I still did have both in gen 3 as well.

Bidoof
Bidoof
Bidoof
Bidoof
Bidoof
Bidoof

Hbthebattle posted...

Starters, Krookodile, Chandelure? Maybe Stoutland?

Damn it I had all 4 of them lol

I suppose I might as well check my other games
I dont remember what it was in gen1/2

Black: Gothitelle, Swanna, Chandelure, Lilligant, Reshiram, Durant (Or if you count the actual Champion Alder then replace Reshiram with Hydreigon)
White2: Krookodile, Archeops, Volcarona, Lucario, Starmie, Jolteon (I didnt really like the gen5 starters)
Omegaruby: Sceptile, Camerupt, Manectric, Banette, Latios, Diancie (Must have felt rather lazy this game)
Moon: Incineroar, Lurantis, Ribombee, Mimikyu, Alolan Raichu, Kommo-o
Ultra Moon: Decidueye, Scizor, Alolan Ninetales, Alolan Golem, Salazzle, Xatu
Sword Shield: Intelleon, Toxtricity, Centiskorch, Hatterene, Corviknight, Dragapult
Scarlet: Meowscarada, Tinkaton, Clodsire, Kilowattrel, Ceruledge, Veluza

Hbthebattle posted...

I think there's a simple reason why most people don't use Drifblim: its movepool is rancid ass so you do low damage, on top of it struggling statwise in most areas. It's the same with GSC Sudowoodo and Shuckle (low level and low stats), GSC Togepi (Togetic is not enough of a reward to bother), and RSE/ORAS Kecleon and Castform (low stats, bad moves).

Gift and Overworld Encounters do often get used, but only if they're worth in the first place.

eh, i mean i used it and i thought it was fine. stockpile/spit up/swallow was a unique playstyle that allowed for pretty big damage and quick access to ominous and shadow ball soon after so it could manage without all that setup was also nice. the biggest shortcoming with it for singleplayer was, and this is very valid, the fact that gen 4 healthbars took an eternity to tick down lol and it had low defenses