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Forty_Niners
10/27/23 10:03:32 AM
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Justin2Krelian posted...
2020 kinda reset it, anyway
If 2020 couldn't collapse our economy, nothing will. We saw a sharp dip for like a month, then a sharp uptick.

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1337toothbrush
10/27/23 10:07:26 AM
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R_Jackal posted...
It's because companies figured out during COVID that people have no self control and will just continue to buy and spend even if they're broke as hell, so there's no reason to hold back on profiteering.
Not quite. It's more like they had an excuse with "supply chain issues" and then vague notions of "inflation" combined with industries only having 2-3 big players that can easily all increase their prices without getting undercut. Even with unit sales number down, revenue is way up. Even if people practice "self control" others will purchase for one reason or another (e.g. their car gets totaled). It's why "voting with your wallet" isn't really effective.

Just take a look at tuition revenues which are way up even though enrollments are significantly down:
https://myelearningworld.com/college-enrollment-tuition-revenue-2023/

The only reason egg prices came back down is because it was so blatant and under more scrutiny to the point that the government was forced to step in. Self control had nothing to do with it.

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emblem-man
10/27/23 10:08:23 AM
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1337toothbrush posted...
The only reason egg prices came back down is because it was so blatant and under more scrutiny to the point that the government was forced to step in. Self control had nothing to do with it.

Bro, the reason for the high egg prices was due to a high number of them dying due to a bird flu

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Luteo
10/27/23 10:09:57 AM
#54:


Its always up to the Democrats to fix the economy every time Republicans fuck it up

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rynobot
10/27/23 10:12:46 AM
#55:


emblem-man posted...
Bro, the reason for the high egg prices was due to a high number of them dying due to a bird flu
That was not true, but I am sure you are eager to debate "high number"

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1337toothbrush
10/27/23 10:15:14 AM
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Forty_Niners posted...
If 2020 couldn't collapse our economy, nothing will. We saw a sharp dip for like a month, then a sharp uptick.
Then why did we ever have an economic collapse? The situation in 2020 was special because it gave an excuse to pump crazy amounts of money in and other forms of aid from the government. Technically, 2008 wasn't a full-blown depression because of a crazy amount of money and aid from the government.

However, the sustainability of this approach is questionable. The US in particular has more leeway because of its global reserve currency status, but something has to give at some point. If it's money on loan, then the bill will come due at some point. If it's money that's straight-up just handed over, then inflation will run rampant. Either way, the corporations getting this aid will become reliant on it, encouraging risky behavior because, hey, they'll get bailed out anyway, and if the companies don't get bailed out then the people responsible will have already collected their money and won't face any consequences.

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1337toothbrush
10/27/23 10:18:40 AM
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emblem-man posted...
Bro, the reason for the high egg prices was due to a high number of them dying due to a bird flu

Bro, you're just parroting industry propaganda:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/196096/total-egg-production-in-the-us-since-2000/

It mainly affected one producer, but the others jacked up their prices to match.

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Lordgold666
10/27/23 10:19:52 AM
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Now if only gas can drop under 4.50/gal

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creativerealms
10/27/23 1:49:48 PM
#59:


Lordgold666 posted...
Now if only gas can drop under 4.50/gal
Depends on where you live. It's been 3.30 a gallon where I live for two weeks now.

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thronedfire2
10/27/23 1:51:51 PM
#60:


rynobot posted...
That was not true, but I am sure you are eager to debate "high number"

are you saying the bird flu thing isnt true, or the prices were high for some other reason?

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LSGW_Zephyra
10/27/23 1:53:16 PM
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Cool, did the median income go up? Range of income go down?

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BewmHedshot
10/27/23 1:55:41 PM
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NYT tomorrow: The economy is booming. Here's why that's bad for Biden...
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emblem-man
10/27/23 1:58:24 PM
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LSGW_Zephyra posted...
Cool, did the median income go up? Range of income go down?

Yes?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/3/9/AADgb_AAE-r7.jpg

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LSGW_Zephyra
10/27/23 2:07:15 PM
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Yay, actual progress!

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Gritty
10/27/23 2:07:52 PM
#65:


wanderingshade posted...
So why did everything go up in price and stay there?
Thats not how any of this works
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1337toothbrush
10/27/23 3:22:29 PM
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emblem-man posted...
Yes?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/3/9/AADgb_AAE-r7.jpg
That's assuming you trust the official inflation numbers. The higher actual inflation is, the more desire there is to supress those real numbers. When so many things have gotten 50+% more expensive in the last couple of years, I highly doubt wages have matched that.

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emblem-man
10/27/23 3:37:51 PM
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1337toothbrush posted...
That's assuming you trust the official inflation numbers. The higher actual inflation is, the more desire there is to supress those real numbers. When so many things have gotten 50+% more expensive in the last couple of years, I highly doubt wages have matched that.

Oh Lord


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1337toothbrush
10/27/23 3:43:09 PM
#69:


emblem-man posted...
Oh Lord
This is literally you:
https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1410709115333234691

It's no secret that numbers are often cherry-picked and don't tell the whole story.

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Heineken14
10/27/23 3:46:01 PM
#70:


Were_Wyrm posted...
Here's why this is bad and it's 100% Biden and the Democrats fault!


And if we can't figure that out, we'll just not give him credit for it and say it doesn't matter because rich people are still insanely rich and wages aren't going up and we don't have universal healthcare. Then complain that democrats are bad at messaging.

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TyVulpine
10/27/23 4:10:58 PM
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1337toothbrush posted...
That's assuming you trust the official inflation numbers. The higher actual inflation is, the more desire there is to suppress those real numbers. When so many things have gotten 50+% more expensive in the last couple of years, I highly doubt wages have matched that.
Blame greedy corporate executives. Why lower prices when people are paying high prices?

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1337toothbrush
10/28/23 2:24:59 AM
#72:


TyVulpine posted...
Blame greedy corporate executives. Why lower prices when people are paying high prices?
People often have little choice because everything is owned by like 2-3 corporations per industry.

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TyVulpine
10/28/23 9:13:28 AM
#73:


1337toothbrush posted...
People often have little choice because everything is owned by like 2-3 corporations per industry.
That's a little known fact but it's true. The sunglasses industry is pretty much one company operating under various shell companies.

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Forty_Niners
10/28/23 10:27:04 AM
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Seeing right wingers twist and turn to make any good news into bad is always amusing.

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GrandConjuraton
10/28/23 10:27:44 AM
#75:


Were_Wyrm posted...
Here's why this is bad and it's 100% Biden and the Democrats fault!


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Red_XIV
10/28/23 1:06:24 PM
#76:


1337toothbrush posted...
That's assuming you trust the official inflation numbers.
1337tinfoil post.

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TyVulpine
10/28/23 2:03:08 PM
#77:


Forty_Niners posted...
Seeing right wingers twist and turn to make any good news into bad is always amusing.
Right wingers: "We don't trust the government, and need our guns to protect us against the government!"
Also right wingers: "Some Republican government official said this, so it must be true!"

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emblem-man
10/28/23 5:42:59 PM
#78:




The median American household has around $8000 in liquid cash, in addition to whatever other assets they hold. Median networth is 198k

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