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Dark_Arbron
10/22/23 9:55:41 AM
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All facts. The point is that those users see them as positive facts.

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Heineken14
10/22/23 9:57:31 AM
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DuranOfForcena posted...


if you support another term for Trump, then you support another term of acts of domestic terrorism, mishandling and leaking of classified documents, stripping away of basic human rights for anyone who is not a straight, white, land-owning, Christian male, corruption in general serving only to enrich Trump, and the further decline of the United States into a Christofascist white ethnostate.


"bUt GaS pRiCeS n InFlAtIoN dOe!!111" - people who don't know what they're talking about and can't elaborate further.

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NPC
10/22/23 9:58:52 AM
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Dark_Arbron
10/22/23 10:00:48 AM
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NPC posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/9/5/AAeIipAAE9hz.jpg

But only one of those things comes from the president in the first place, and even then only a certain president. False dilemma.

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VampireCoyote
10/22/23 10:00:49 AM
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PeteyParker posted...
Pretty sure it matters to the millions of women who will lose their reproductive rights and the LGTBQ+ people that are already being targeted and in danger of losing their identities, but "fuck you got mine", right?

You misunderstand. You have to burn away rot to plant anew.

There is so much rot. Its gonna take a lot of fuel.


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Heineken14
10/22/23 10:01:28 AM
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NPC posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/9/5/AAeIipAAE9hz.jpg


https://imgur.com/ITspmiu.jpeg

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Heineken14
10/22/23 10:02:08 AM
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VampireCoyote posted...


You misunderstand. You have to burn away rot to plant anew.

There is so much rot. Its gonna take a lot of fuel.



This picture works equally as well for this as it does for that obvious right wing troll.

https://imgur.com/ITspmiu.jpeg

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VampireCoyote
10/22/23 10:04:05 AM
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When you have no intelligent opinion just use an insulting meme itll make you seem cool itll get rid of that weird smell where you sleep

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Heineken14
10/22/23 10:06:15 AM
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VampireCoyote posted...
When you have no intelligent opinion just use an insulting meme itll make you seem cool itll get rid of that weird smell where you sleep


When things aren't intelligent to begin with, low level meme pictures are the level of effort it requires.

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VampireCoyote
10/22/23 10:10:45 AM
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Heineken14 posted...
When things aren't intelligent to begin with, low level meme pictures are the level of effort it requires.

still unable to address the post dig further youre super good at it, theres bound to be sunlight down there somewhere

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bfslick50
10/22/23 10:18:32 AM
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NPC posted...
dumb meme

Google historical gas prices. They were lower in Obamas last year. With Trump they only rose slightly but the the huge rise started on his watch during the pandemic.

If everything was the exact same conditions were in place and Trump was president youd be bragging bout the unemployment rate.

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Dark_Arbron
10/22/23 10:22:11 AM
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bfslick50 posted...
Google historical gas prices. They were lower in Obamas last year. With Trump they only rose slightly but the the huge rise started on his watch during the pandemic.

If everything was the exact same conditions were in place and Trump was president youd be bragging bout the unemployment rate.

Theyre living up to their username at least.


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creativerealms
10/22/23 10:36:30 AM
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It just amazes me that we so divided that are choices are between two old men who both seem to be losing their grip on reality and one of them can commit every crime under the sun and people will ignore it, hell praise him for it, and he can actually win.

We need better candidates and rules that you can't run after you try to steal an election. Yet here we are.

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Dark_Arbron
10/22/23 10:41:39 AM
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creativerealms posted...
It just amazes me that we so divided that are choices are between two old men who both seem to be losing their grip on reality and one of them can commit every crime under the sun and people will ignore it, hell praise him for it, and he can actually win.

We need better candidates and rules that you can't run after you try to steal an election. Yet here we are.

Ill bet the founding fathers never saw this situation coming.

Whats so hard about executing someone for treason? What do you mean theres a huge debate on whether or not he broke the law in the first place? And hes running for a second term?

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bfslick50
10/22/23 10:42:36 AM
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creativerealms posted...
It just amazes me that we so divided that are choices are between two old men who both seem to be losing their grip on reality and one of them can commit every crime under the sun and people will ignore it, hell praise him for it, and he can actually win.

We need better candidates and rules that you can't run after you try to steal an election. Yet here we are.

Nah. Democrats had 20 choices and half a dozen of them got solid media coverage. But the choice was in 2020 because everyone knew itd be an 8 year choice if the Republicans didnt get their shit together. The Republican Party needs to be defeated handily like the Federalists and then the Democrats can split like we did before.

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Torgo
10/22/23 10:46:27 AM
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The irony of that Gas Prices Vs Mean tweets meme image... is that the real choice right now is:

  • a non-functioning government defaulting on debt and lowering America's global credit rating for no reason, and undermining democracy itself on one button...
VS

... a transwoman on a beer can
...or Brie Larson said something mean
...or a transwoman playing sports
...or a movie franchise rebooting with a black actor
...or schools teaching slavery was bad, actually

On the other button.

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McMarbles
10/22/23 11:06:37 AM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
Again, out of just those two, Trump. Easily.

What? You thought I'd hide behind the poll vote? Lmao
No, no one thought that. We know exactly what you are, swine.

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NO2_Fiend
10/22/23 11:10:22 AM
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Voting Trump for the lulz Biden was boring.

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Inohira
10/22/23 11:12:22 AM
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NO2_Fiend posted...
Voting Trump for the lulz Biden was boring.

He's gonna continue to be boring since Trump isn't winning.

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Turbam
10/22/23 11:14:48 AM
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NPC posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/9/5/AAeIipAAE9hz.jpg
Whoever made this meme isn't very smart

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Dark_Arbron
10/22/23 11:15:21 AM
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Turbam posted...
Whoever made this meme isn't very smart

Right wing humour has a long way to go.

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FortuneCookie
10/22/23 11:15:33 AM
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If both were ineligible to run again, that wouldn't hurt me in the slightest.

It sucks that the bigotry wall is being built no matter who we vote for. Oh, but Republicans will totally back us financially on Israel and Ukraine since we built their wall for them. As someone who lives in a red state, my vote is essentially just a protest anyway. I think I'll skip out on voting next year.

Between the two, I'd much rather have Biden. But fuck that wall. Fuck them for placating racism and xenophobia like that. I don't care if it's a token gesture. It's still validating bigotry.
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Null_Gain
10/22/23 11:18:08 AM
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NO2_Fiend posted...
Voting Trump for the lulz Biden was boring.

tag checks out

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rideshort
10/22/23 11:22:17 AM
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VampireCoyote posted...
Literally does not matter. Burn it down.

It does matter. What are you talking about? Please elaborate.

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Inohira
10/22/23 11:30:39 AM
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FortuneCookie posted...
If both were ineligible to run again, that wouldn't hurt me in the slightest.

It sucks that the bigotry wall is being built no matter who we vote for. Oh, but Republicans will totally back us financially on Israel and Ukraine since we built their wall for them. As someone who lives in a red state, my vote is essentially just a protest anyway. I think I'll skip out on voting next year.

Between the two, I'd much rather have Biden. But fuck that wall. Fuck them for placating racism and xenophobia like that. I don't care if it's a token gesture. It's still validating bigotry.

"Bigotry wall". People are coming into the country with no living arrangements prepared and its heavily pressuring the shelter network in sanctuary states, pushing some of them to consider suspending their right to shelter laws entirely (terrible for the homeless).

It's not about hate, it's about the fact that these people mostly do not have homes and we already had enough people without homes who were actual citizens of this country to begin with. It's too much to deal with all at once.

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FortuneCookie
10/22/23 11:33:00 AM
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Inohira posted...
"Bigotry wall". People are coming into the country with no living arrangements prepared and its heavily pressuring the shelter network in sanctuary states, pushing some of them to consider suspending their right to shelter laws entirely (terrible for the homeless).

It's not about hate, it's about the fact that these people mostly do not hsve homes and we already had enough people without homes who are actual citizens of this country. It's too much to deal with all at once.

Trump called for the wall because of xenophobia.
Biden's calling for the wall because of economic security.

I'm glad that we did the exact same thing the ethical way. From what I've seen, it's a tiny token wall that can be climbed over. That makes it gestural. It also means that we're going to get a couple new slurs out of it: "jumper," "wall hopper," etc.

I'm sorry. This isn't a both sides post. I know Trump and his fold are more bigoted, but Biden fucked up. The wall is wrong no matter who does it.
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rexcrk
10/22/23 11:34:34 AM
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NO2_Fiend posted...
Voting Trump for the lulz Biden was boring.
I honestly cant even tell if this is a joke post or not, but in all seriousness, I blame Trump winning at all the first time a lot on Meme Culture.

Was it worth it, terminally-onlines? Was it worth it?

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SunCider
10/22/23 4:31:50 PM
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Cemith posted...
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I hate to say no, you, but what you said either really makes no sense, or its too stupid for me to understand through any common logic.

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divot1338
10/22/23 4:51:04 PM
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creativerealms posted...
I know gamers as isn't a strong enough sample size and in real life it would be much much closer but this is still scary. In a sane world someone like Trump would be ineligible to run for president.
Trump is constitutionally ineligible to run for president.

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DarthAragorn
10/22/23 5:07:12 PM
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Of those two, Biden, because I'm not a dumb piece of shit that would rather have discrimination and tax cuts for the rich instead of a functional government

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Cheater87
10/22/23 5:20:14 PM
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Biden, Trump wants to end democracy.

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ZMythos
10/22/23 5:28:28 PM
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Biden, but we need to bully him even more to fulfil his 2020 campaign promises

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Inohira
10/22/23 5:55:27 PM
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Gladius_ posted...
Claiming "I vote for no one because I am anti-partisan" is not some enlightened stance but the opposite.

To be clear I'm.not saying that I don't vote because I'm anti-partisan. Those two details are coincidental. I would vote for a presidential candidate I liked.

Back in the primaries, people constantly pushed Biden as more electable than Bernie/Warren/etc. They often cited polls showing Biden getting more votes in the general election to support that notion. So there are moderates/centrists/etc. responding to these polls saying "I'd vote for Biden, but not Bernie/Warren."

I can't fight back against that if I pledge my vote to candidates I don't actually like, such as Biden, by default. I need to be the guy instead responding to polls saying, "no, I won't vote Biden, but I would vote Bernie/Warren" to balance out the Manchin type voters.

Otherwise grassroots candidates will lose to the establishment forever.

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pick4six
10/22/23 7:23:14 PM
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gas prices were high even under Trump, it doesn't matter who's President oil companies will be greedy no matter what

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DirkDiggles
10/22/23 7:30:57 PM
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How good are Deez Nutz chances in this election?

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Inohira
10/22/23 7:36:12 PM
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Gladius_ posted...
The alternative if people took your stance is a trump victory.

Most people won't. If most people were like me we'd have better nominees.

Gladius_ posted...
Sometimes you have to swallow your pride and vote for someone you don't like in order to make sure that we don't end up in a country that only has a single choice instead of a two party system. As stated, once the republicans are laid low we can turn our attention on the democrat party but as long as people choose to either vote republican or not vote democrat we end up stuck in this situation or worse.

I understand that's the Democratic perspective. More power to you and I hope it works. But ultimately I'm an independent, I'm not part of a "we," don't represent anyone but myself, and aren't enthusiastic to coordinate with strategies I don't consider effective. My personal priority has always been defeating corporatism in America; I loved Obama's 2008 campaign against special interests, but apparently since then everyone loves special interests now.

This threat of fascism that popped up afterwards is an additional problem that wouldn't have even grown this bad if Democrats had found a better nominee than Hillary in 2016. She did terribly in general election polls against non-Tea Party/MAGA Republicans and worse than Bernie and yet they still went full steam ahead with her instead of getting better Dems into the race. Anyone else could've beaten Trump. If the problem was caused by Dems' moronic candidate choices why would I keep encouraging them?

And then Dems have the audacity to say their #1 priority is protecting democracy, when their primaries are handled less democratically than the GOP's (superdelegates, pushing kingmaker states like South Carolina earlier and earlier in the process, etc.) and they'd rather go with a weaker establishment nominee than a stronger grassroots nominee despite the risk it presents of a Republican winning. They use the external problem of fascism to deflect from their internal corporate problems.

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bfslick50
10/22/23 7:58:58 PM
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Inohira posted...
And then Dems have the audacity to say their #1 priority is protecting democracy, when their primaries are handled less democratically than the GOP's (superdelegates, pushing kingmaker states like South Carolina earlier and earlier in the process, etc.) and they'd rather go with a weaker establishment nominee than a stronger grassroots nominee despite the risk it presents of a Republican winning. They use the external problem of fascism to deflect from their internal corporate problems.

Whoa. GOP primary is winner take all system is way worse than anything the Democrats do. This is how Trump was able to amass so many delegates in 2016 despite winning around 30% of the vote. Meanwhile the Democrats dole things out proportionally so the election isn't decided as quickly, leaving those other candidates a better chance to amass a following.

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Inohira
10/22/23 8:15:24 PM
#98:


bfslick50 posted...
GOP primary is winner take all system is way worse than anything the Democrats do. This is how Trump was able to amass so many delegates in 2016

Yes as much as the GOP establishment opposed Trump he was still able to win their primaries due in part to them being winner-take-all. An outsider being able to beat the party picks from influential politial families is a sign of a healthy political process to me. With how Democraric primaries work it's very easy for an outsider candidate to get stomped out if leading party figures coalesce their endorsements behind someone else.

bfslick50 posted...
despite winning around 30% of the vote. Meanwhile the Democrats dole things out proportionally so the election isn't decided as quickly, leaving those other candidates a better chance to amass a following.

He won a plurality of votes, though. If it's not a 1 on 1 election I don't see why the candidate needs a majority, instead of just more votes than everyone else.

Meanwhile in the Democratic primary if Bernie went into the 2020 convention with only a plurality of delegates, a contested convention would start and the superdelegates would be freed from being locked to their state's vote and allowed to just pledge themselves to whatever candidate they wanted instead; I think that's more unnerving than anything possible in the GOP primaries.

bfslick50 posted...
Meanwhile the Democrats dole things out proportionally so the election isn't decided as quickly, leaving those other candidates a better chance to amass a following.

Problem is due to the Democratic party's modern focus on "unity" the Super Tuesday primaries basically decide the winner anyway. Once a candidate wins on ST, the voters coalesce behind them. You're doomed if you lose ST, realistically.

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bfslick50
10/22/23 8:36:40 PM
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Inohira posted...
He won a plurality of votes, though. If it's not a 1 on 1 election I don't see why the candidate needs a majority, instead of just more votes than everyone else.

Meanwhile in the Democratic primary if Bernie went into the 2020 convention with only a plurality of delegates, a contested convention would start and the superdelegates would be freed from being locked to their state's vote and allowed to just pledge themselves to whatever candidate they wanted instead; I think that's more unnerving than anything possible in the GOP primaries.

Youre conflating two things. Trump won a majority of delegates by having a plurality in many states. Its harder for an outsider candidate to stay in it if they dont get at least SOME of the delegates from each election. The winner take all system makes those early states king makers.

Problem is due to the Democratic party's modern focus on "unity" the Super Tuesday primaries basically decide the winner anyway. Once a candidate wins on ST, the voters coalesce behind them. You're doomed if you lose ST, realistically.

Obama/Clinton went well past ST. As did Bernie both times. The proportional assignment of delegates makes it easier for 2nd place to survive.

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TripleDouble
10/22/23 8:40:10 PM
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dj1200 posted...
Not voting


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