Current Events > Saw a tiktok saying half of US states have loyalty oath to Israel

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Chicken
10/21/23 1:39:58 AM
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I'm not from the US but is this true? They went on to say that their freedom of speech doesn't protect against criticism of the Israelian government.

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Foppe
10/21/23 1:41:02 AM
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Sounds like you got hit by propaganda.

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PMarth2002
10/21/23 1:43:59 AM
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If they do, that's news to me.

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Chicken
10/21/23 1:45:33 AM
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Foppe posted...
Sounds like you got hit by propaganda.

I dunno I'm seeing stuff from years ago saying the same thing

https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/k4i7dl/i_had_no_idea_the_us_enforces_a_a_israeli_loyalty/

and other posts about contractors being forced to sign an oath to work in some states

Edit: eww just saw that was from a joe rogan subreddit, heres another

https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/f2la8g/filmmaker_who_wouldnt_sign_georgias_israel_pledge/

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Raiden2909
10/21/23 1:47:01 AM
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Its not true.. in a technical sense, But in practice there are a lot of states(Usually GOP but not exclusivly them) that really frown on criticism of Israel and have actually passed laws to penalize and attack groups that have promoted or engaged in Boycotts of Israel
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Hospy
10/21/23 1:47:05 AM
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There isn't a loyalty oath, but there are states that have enacted anti-BDS legislation that require recipients of state contracts (and possibly relief funds?) that require the recipient to certify that they won't boycott Israel.

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Chicken
10/21/23 1:48:20 AM
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Hospy posted...
There isn't a loyalty oath, but there are states that have enacted anti-BDS legislation that require recipients of state contracts (and possibly relief funds?) that require the recipient to certify that they won't boycott Israel.
isnt that basically a loyalty oath with extra steps?

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__aCEr__
10/21/23 1:48:25 AM
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Never a good start when you quote a Joe Rogan subreddit.

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Chicken
10/21/23 1:49:18 AM
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__aCEr__ posted...
Never a good start when you quote a Joe Rogan subreddit.
Again, I saw this on tiktok and that was the first thing I clicked on. I provided another link afterwards. smh

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DnDer
10/21/23 1:49:33 AM
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Chicken posted...
I dunno I'm seeing stuff from years ago saying the same thing

https://www.reddit.com/r/JoeRogan/comments/k4i7dl/i_had_no_idea_the_us_enforces_a_a_israeli_loyalty/

and other posts about contractors being forced to sign an oath to work in some states

(A) Stop listening to Joe Rogan anything. That shit's poison to your brain.

(B) There are contractors for states out there who are required to sign anti anti-BDS statements. But "I won't boycott Israel" is not the same as a loyalty "I support Israel" statement required to work.

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Chicken
10/21/23 1:49:51 AM
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DnDer posted...
(A) Stop listening to Joe Rogan anything. That shit's poison to your brain.

(B) There are contractors for states out there who are required to sign anti anti-BDS statements. But "I won't boycott Israel" is not the same as a loyalty "I support Israel" statement required to work.

Chicken posted...
Again, I saw this on tiktok and that was the first thing I clicked on. I provided another link afterwards. smh


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Foppe
10/21/23 1:53:23 AM
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Chicken posted...
I dunno I'm seeing stuff from years ago saying the same thing
Muslim communities have said for years that the Swedish Government kidnaps Arabic children and adopts them to Swedish homes, forcing them to forget their culture and turn them into Swedes.
That guy who killed those two Swedish soccer supporters in Brssel followed accounts that spread those lies.

Just Saiyan.

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DnDer
10/21/23 1:53:30 AM
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Chicken posted...
Again, I saw this on tiktok and that was the first thing I clicked on. I provided another link afterwards. smh

We were all typing at you at the same time, it seems.

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Hospy
10/21/23 1:53:57 AM
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Chicken posted...
isnt that basically a loyalty oath with extra steps?
I think the law is really dumb but it doesn't need to be exaggerated into something else get angry about it.

People should be angry about it in the unexaggerated form.
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Chicken
10/21/23 1:54:48 AM
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https://www.reddit.com/r/texas/comments/a70k67/a_texas_elementary_school_speech_pathologist/

So you can literally criticize the leader of the US and anyone else in the country but you can't do the same about a country on the opposite end of the world? And no one sees a problem with this?

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Ricemills
10/21/23 1:55:32 AM
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There is no oath.
But it's public knowledge that half of US politicians are loyal to Israel without needing an oath


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DnDer
10/21/23 2:15:26 AM
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Chicken posted...
And no one sees a problem with this?

Plenty of people do. It's definitely problematic.

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potdnewb
10/21/23 2:16:02 AM
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stop using tiktok

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Chicken
10/21/23 2:21:28 AM
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potdnewb posted...
stop using tiktok

If I stop using tiktok this will all stop being true? Do you promise?

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Chicken
10/21/23 2:35:41 AM
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https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMjq1bYc7/

If I didnt use tiktok I wouldnt know statements like this were being made about Palestinian children.

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