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UnfairRepresent
10/15/23 6:09:40 AM
#1:


This is as characters, not in terms of gameplay. Poor Kimarhi.

I'd go

Wakka > Yuna > Auron > Lulu > Tidus > Paine > Kimarhi > Rikku > Seymour

Maybe swap Tidus and Lulu around

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Big_Nabendu
10/15/23 6:24:07 AM
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Lulu tatas> who cares

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Nukazie
10/15/23 6:27:21 AM
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Lulu > Wakka >

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ArsGoetia
10/15/23 6:34:29 AM
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didnt care for any of the cast really tbh
but rikku > everyone else b/c shes always absolutely busted in crossover games
was #1 support for like a solid year in ffbe and she had some of the best soul breaks in ffrk
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Ricemills
10/15/23 6:35:02 AM
#5:


Rikku endgame Wakka > Tidus > Yuna > Auron > Kimahri >>>>>>>>> early waKKKa.

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LeCh0nk
10/15/23 7:23:57 AM
#6:


Auron > Rikku > Wakka > Kimarhi >Yuna > SpongeBob > Lulu

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McMarbles
10/15/23 11:52:52 AM
#7:


  1. Auron
  2. Tidus
  3. Rikku
  4. Wakka
  5. Lulu
  6. Yuna
  7. Paine
I think thats all of them.

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PerseusRad
10/15/23 11:56:12 AM
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Auron and Wakka at the top, Paine and Kimahri at the bottom. To be fair to Paine, Id never gotten far into FFX-2 until late last year, so I didnt really have her backstory at all. But it only did so much to improve my opinion of her. Kimahri isnt bad either, but hed be the easiest to remove.

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Irony
10/15/23 11:57:09 AM
#9:


As characters only Rikku and Auron aren't fucking awful and Auron is just boring.

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SayHeyyShohei
10/15/23 11:57:24 AM
#10:


They all suck aside from Auron and Rikku. Wakka is the worst.

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UnfairRepresent
10/15/23 1:10:07 PM
#11:


McMarbles posted...
1. Auron
2. Tidus
3. Rikku
4. Wakka
5. Lulu
6. Yuna
7. Paine
I think thats all of them.
Kimahri and Seymour

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ellis123
10/15/23 1:16:03 PM
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1. Auron
2. Tidus
3. Yuna
4. Wakka
5. Lulu
6. Rikku
7. Paine
8. Khimahri

Oh, and Seymour can go sit over in a corner or something.

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lilORANG
10/15/23 1:18:50 PM
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I don't even remember Seymour joining the party lol. They're all fine except boring kimhari and racist wakka.

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El_Marsh
10/15/23 1:24:27 PM
#14:


Auron
Yuna
Rikku
Tidus
Wakka = Lulu
Paine
Kimahri

If we're counting Seymour, I'd put him above Paine and Kimahri but not the party members that actually had relevance.

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Rharyx211
10/15/23 1:33:31 PM
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Yuna
Auron
Tidus
Wakka
Rikku
Lulu
Kimahri

Sucks to put Lulu so low since I think she's great, but in terms of having her own arc or development or whatever, she doesn't really have one. At least Rikku had her thing with the Al Bhed and being Yunie's cousin.

Couldn't get far enough into X-2 to get a handle on Paine's character, but she seemed like she'd be pretty low.

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SayHeyyShohei
10/15/23 1:36:36 PM
#16:


huge sus flags coming out for those who think wakka is the best

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LeCh0nk
10/15/23 1:39:29 PM
#17:


SayHeyyShohei posted...
huge sus flags coming out for those who think wakka is the best
It's called character development

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Ricemills
10/15/23 1:39:45 PM
#18:


SayHeyyShohei posted...
huge sus flags coming out for those who think wakka is the best

What are you trying to imply?
Say it out loud.

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SayHeyyShohei
10/15/23 1:43:14 PM
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LeCh0nk posted...
It's called character development

the super racist xenophobe developed into a character where he finally decided al bhed are people

Wow what a great character

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furb
10/15/23 1:44:27 PM
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I never played x 2.

Aaron was the only character I liked

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Ricemills
10/15/23 1:44:51 PM
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SayHeyyShohei posted...
the super racist xenophobe developed into a character where he finally decided al bhed are people

Wow what a great character

So you like a racist to stay racist.

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SayHeyyShohei
10/15/23 1:47:41 PM
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Ricemills posted...
So you like a racist to stay racist.

Lmao he didn't suddenly not become a racist because he finally understood Al Bhed were human beings

Like even the most regular alt right Trump supporter acknowledges other ethnicities are people too. This isn't an accomplishment..

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PerseusRad
10/15/23 1:47:59 PM
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I like Wakka cause he comes off as a chill and generous dude, and he is. That's never really called into question. But he has a sort of casualized racism towards the Al Bhed, and he actually has a reason (even if it isn't justified). He's basically the perfect representation of the control Yevon/religion has over people, and how even ostensibly nice people can have deep, deep character flaws. And he also shows how (hopefully), people can change when they experience new things and people. Like, even before Yevon was fully revealed to be a sham, he was willing and able to try changing.

He wasn't cartoonishly evil or even cartoonishly hateful, he was just a guy, and I think it's important to show that, and that people can get better.

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SayHeyyShohei
10/15/23 1:48:57 PM
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PerseusRad posted...
I like Wakka cause he comes off as a chill and generous dude, and he is. That's never really called into question. But he has a sort of casualized racism towards the Al Bhed, and he actually has a reason (even if it isn't justified). He's basically the perfect representation of the control Yevon/religion has over people, and how even ostensibly nice people can have deep, deep character flaws. And he also shows how (hopefully), people can change when they experience new things and people. Like, even before Yevon was fully revealed to be a sham, he was willing and able to try changing.

He wasn't cartoonishly evil or even cartoonishly hateful, he was just a guy, and I think it's important to show that, and that people can get better.

His racism was more than just casual. Rewatch the cutscenes. The dude was your average neo-nazi.

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PerseusRad
10/15/23 1:54:25 PM
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SayHeyyShohei posted...
His racism was more than just casual. Rewatch the cutscenes. The dude was your average neo-nazi.
Poor choice of words by me, since casual racism has it's own definition. It was more like, while the narrative called it out, and it was treated as a character flaw, it rarely felt like it completely overtook his character. He wasn't talking about how much he hated the Al Bhed in every cutscene, it showed up relatively often, but it didn't completely encompass his character. The other characters, while they acknowledged it, didn't really call him out about it, and took it into account when necessary. I think that's what I meant by casual. He was dressed down when it was appropriate.

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Cokewave
10/15/23 1:56:23 PM
#26:


Auron > Tidus > Wakka > Yuna > Rikku > Kimarhi > Lulu

I really liked Tidus and Wakka which I know are not most peoples favorites

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SayHeyyShohei
10/15/23 1:57:42 PM
#27:


Wakka would complain about the Al Bhed in situations that didn't even call for it. He was the complete embodiment of a "who asked?" xenophobe.

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Ricemills
10/15/23 2:00:00 PM
#28:


SayHeyyShohei posted...
Lmao he didn't suddenly not become a racist because he finally understood Al Bhed were human beings

Like even the most regular alt right Trump supporter acknowledges other ethnicities are people too. This isn't an accomplishment..

So you're just talking shit you don't know about.
Your refusal to acknowledge a racist can turn over a new leaf says a lot about you.


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SayHeyyShohei
10/15/23 2:01:18 PM
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Ricemills posted...
So you're just talking shit you don't know about.
Your refusal to acknowledge a racist can turn over a new leaf says a lot about you.

Your refusal to understand that an extreme racist suddenly having the epiphany that other races are people too doesn't disqualify them from still being racist says a lot about you as well

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LeCh0nk
10/15/23 2:01:51 PM
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SayHeyyShohei posted...
His racism was more than just casual. Rewatch the cutscenes. The dude was your average neo-nazi.
Yeah, and he changed for the better when his views were challenged and he learned about the people he was told to despise. More than we can say for your average <will get modded for calling them out>.

That is good character development and why people who finish and understand the game end up liking him.

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Super_Slash
10/15/23 2:02:27 PM
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SayHeyyShohei posted...
Lmao he didn't suddenly not become a racist because he finally understood Al Bhed were human beings

Like even the most regular alt right Trump supporter acknowledges other ethnicities are people too. This isn't an accomplishment..
You'd have to be completely fucking dense to think Wakka is still racist by the end of FFX. X-2 shows his development even more. You're either trolling or you're being willfully ignorant, or you just wanna have the opinion opposite from everyone else.
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SayHeyyShohei
10/15/23 2:03:29 PM
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Super_Slash posted...
You'd have to be completely fucking dense to think Wakka is still racist by the end of FFX. X-2 shows his development even more.

The topic asked about FFX party members, not X-2 side characters.

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Ricemills
10/15/23 2:04:03 PM
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SayHeyyShohei posted...
Your refusal to understand that an extreme racist suddenly having the epiphany that other races are people too doesn't disqualify them from still being racist says a lot about you as well

Yes.
That says that i believe people can change for the better.
Unlike you.

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LeCh0nk
10/15/23 2:04:30 PM
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Super_Slash posted...
You're either trolling or you're being willfully ignorant, or you just wanna have the opinion opposite from everyone else.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/0/4/7/AAZjY6AAE77f.png
Probably a little of a, b, and c.

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Super_Slash
10/15/23 2:04:30 PM
#35:


SayHeyyShohei posted...
The topic asked about FFX party members, not X-2 side characters.
When did I mention any side characters? You don't even need to play X-2 to see Wakka's complete 180. Go back and play the game, and accept that you're wrong.
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SayHeyyShohei
10/15/23 2:04:51 PM
#36:


Ricemills posted...
Yes.
That says that i believe people can change for the better.
Unlike you.

Lmao

Your bar is incredibly low if it takes a xenophobe admitting someone is human for them to turn a new leaf.

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Irony
10/15/23 2:04:52 PM
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People don't change

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Shotgunnova
10/15/23 2:05:11 PM
#38:


Auron
Rikku
Yuna
Lulu
Wakka
Tidus
Kimahri
Seymour

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SayHeyyShohei
10/15/23 2:05:51 PM
#39:


Super_Slash posted...
When did I mention any side characters? You don't even need to play X-2 to see Wakka's complete 180. Go back and play the game, and accept that you're wrong.

This topic is about FFX party members, not X-2 side characters. Wakka is a side character in X-2.

In FFX, Wakka is a racist shit bag.

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Ricemills
10/15/23 2:06:53 PM
#40:


SayHeyyShohei posted...
Lmao

Your bar is incredibly low if it takes a xenophobe admitting someone is human for them to turn a new leaf.

Did you even read your own post?
A racist dude admitting that his prejudice was wrong is 100% turning a new leaf.

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Super_Slash
10/15/23 2:07:29 PM
#41:


SayHeyyShohei posted...
This topic is about FFX party members, not X-2 side characters. Wakka is a side character in X-2.

In FFX, Wakka is a racist shit bag.
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ANort175
10/15/23 2:08:13 PM
#42:


Yall feeding Kanjo like Yuna fed the aeons to Yu Yevon at the end

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Rharyx211
10/15/23 2:12:30 PM
#43:


Wakka's character arc is great and works in tandem with the themes of the game really well.

Trying to downplay it and act like a contrarian on purpose is super weird. (Also, it sounds like you just don't know how character development works.)

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SayHeyyShohei
10/15/23 2:16:46 PM
#44:


Ricemills posted...
Did you even read your own post?
A racist dude admitting that his prejudice was wrong is 100% turning a new leaf.

It takes more than admitting you were wrong in the face of adversity for one to actually change. Talk to me when he purges all the subconscious racism out of his system.

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Ricemills
10/15/23 2:18:55 PM
#45:


SayHeyyShohei posted...
It takes more than admitting you were wrong in the face of adversity for one to actually change. Talk to me when he purges all the subconscious racism out of his system.

So you admit you don't even play the game now.

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Rharyx211
10/15/23 2:21:50 PM
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Dude definitely didn't even play the game.

Or it's been so long he's forgotten chunks of it.

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Super_Slash
10/15/23 2:57:01 PM
#47:


SayHeyyShohei posted...
Talk to me when he purges all the subconscious racism out of his system.

Where's this subconscious racism shown? There are game scripts on this site, show us some proof since you're so sure of yourself.
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SayHeyyShohei
10/15/23 2:57:47 PM
#48:


Super_Slash posted...
Where's this subconscious racism shown? There are game scripts on this site, show us some proof since you're so sure of yourself.

The fireworks scene

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Ricemills
10/15/23 2:59:00 PM
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SayHeyyShohei posted...
The fireworks scene

Lmao, show us then.

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SayHeyyShohei
10/15/23 3:01:19 PM
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Ricemills posted...
Lmao, show us then.

https://youtu.be/lE133_G7XDY?si=SvNjU9Ggt8TjN7iv

Someone hasn't played the game!!

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