Current Events > Cenk Uygur is running for president challenging Biden in the Democratic primary

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CyricZ
10/12/23 12:15:43 PM
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Y'know I get the distinct feeling that Mr. Uygur has nothing to worry about with regards to his case going to the SCOTUS.

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aarrgus
10/12/23 12:16:52 PM
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BurmesePenguin posted...
I believe what Cenk has said is that he's not planning on winning, but he wants other democrats to challenge Biden in the primary. According to him a bunch of other prominent democrats will jump into the race if he gets 20-30% popularity in the polls and the democratic party will end up with a stronger candidate than Biden who can then beat Trump.

So basically he thinks "Bernie 2020" plan would work again... that if you have 30% support you'll win if there are a dozen other candidates.

Cenk continues to be an absolute moron.


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Tyranthraxus
10/12/23 12:17:37 PM
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CyricZ posted...
Y'know I get the distinct feeling that Mr. Uygur has nothing to worry about with regards to his case going to the SCOTUS.

It would be funny to watch his case get dismissed with prejudice in the lowest court though.

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C_Pain
10/12/23 12:18:24 PM
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FOLKS...

where's the lie?

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NO2_Fiend
10/12/23 12:19:25 PM
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Yeah and his pose reminds me of this because of how akward and fake it is.

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Torgo
10/12/23 12:19:52 PM
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I really hope after he gets humiliated when this fails, he will be humbled and can get some perspective back.

Cenk is not a bad guy, he's just been on a bad trajectory and arc lately and needs to get back to the old school (pun intended) when he was one of the pioneers in progressive media... not what he's doing lately.

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BurmesePenguin
10/12/23 1:01:24 PM
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Also reminder that Cenk knows so litlle about politics that after Shinzo Abe got assassinated, Cenk said on his show that he (Abe) was politically to the left of AOC.

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s0nicfan
10/12/23 1:03:36 PM
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Torgo posted...
I really hope after he gets humiliated when this fails, he will be humbled and can get some perspective back.

Cenk is not a bad guy, he's just been on a bad trajectory and arc lately and needs to get back to the old school (pun intended) when he was one of the pioneers in progressive media... not what he's doing lately.

He needs to go back, but not so far back that he's denying genocides again. Also probably not when he was publicly feuding with Alex Jones, and preferably not in the era of his co-host saying she's better than other people. So, like... some 3 week period in a quiet March that happened over the course of his career.

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itachi15243
10/12/23 1:04:39 PM
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What a fucking idiot.

Probably looking to shill something or launder some money.

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name_unknown
10/12/23 1:06:21 PM
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itachi15243 posted...
What a fucking idiot.

Probably looking to shill something or launder some money.
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s0nicfan
10/12/23 1:10:31 PM
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name_unknown posted...
Stealing campaign funds isn't easy many get caught.

But buying enough copies of your book so that it becomes a best seller and then giving them away at campaign events is something many politicians have done and as far as I'm aware nobody's ever been arrested over it.

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Inohira
10/12/23 3:33:38 PM
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creativerealms posted...
This is a man who got six percent of the vote in California race.

Anyway if he was smart he would wait for 2028 and also work out his argument about how he can run despite being born in Turkey. Because right now that and the fact that the DNC are all in on Biden means no one else is running as a democrat.

That's the point, he's running because nobody else wants to challenge Biden.

projectpat72988 posted...
Someone explain the logic to me of how he thinks since BIDEN won't win. That he, this random fucking news guy 90% of people haven't even heard of....will somehow win? Is this some kind of troll or is he actually the most delusional man there is? OMG Biden, basically the most famous democrat there is might lose. We need to quickly get a guy no one knows about on the ballot because he will surely win! HUH!?

Either I am missing something or he is a complete fucking moron.

He admits he's not an ideal candidate. He's trying to motivate stronger candidates to get in the race.

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BurmesePenguin
10/12/23 3:36:29 PM
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He's mostly trying to sell books.

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Inohira
10/12/23 3:36:57 PM
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aarrgus posted...


So basically he thinks "Bernie 2020" plan would work again... that if you have 30% support you'll win if there are a dozen other candidates.

Cenk continues to be an absolute moron.


Why do you call it the Bernie strategy when it's the strategy Trump actually won with in 2016's primaries? Bernie was just copying what worked for the other outsider candidate. Not his fault lower polling Dem. candidates would rather drop out prematurely than risk it working, unlike GOP candidates.

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BurmesePenguin
10/12/23 3:38:58 PM
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Not Bernie's fault his winning strategy was having a more unpopular candidacy split over less people and hoping the ones on the other side didn't see their inevitable failure and drop out of the race?

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Inohira
10/12/23 3:53:08 PM
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BurmesePenguin posted...
Not Bernie's fault his winning strategy was having a more unpopular candidacy split over less people

What better strategy could Bernie Sanders run? Independent socialist guy isn't winning a primary normally. He didn't start with majority support like Hillary 2016 and he was never going to be able to get mass endorsements to save his campaign like Biden 2020. His only play was to copy Trump and hope the same thing happened.

BurmesePenguin posted...
and hoping the ones on the other side didn't see their inevitable failure and drop out of the race?

Bernie was campaigning as if it was every man for himself. He did not expect candidates to give up on a last ditch Super Tuesday effort purely for the sake of pushing the 2nd place candidate into 1st (ST was only 3 days after SC, so it'd have cost those candidates virtually nothing to stay in). That's never really happened before; usually candidates behave like in the 2016 GOP primary, leaving their campaign open until there's an actual 0% of success.

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BurmesePenguin
10/12/23 3:55:28 PM
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IIRC Five38 had Buttigieg and what's her face at 0% after SC. If they saw their own political views reflected most strongly in Biden and doing so might put them in a cabinet position, what purpose would there be to not drop out and help him?

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Tmaster148
10/12/23 3:57:12 PM
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Inohira posted...
That's the point, he's running because nobody else wants to challenge Biden.

He admits he's not an ideal candidate. He's trying to motivate stronger candidates to get in the race.

How is a guy who has no chance of being on the ballot going to motivate other people to join the race?

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projectpat72988
10/12/23 5:47:40 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
How is a guy who has no chance of being on the ballot going to motivate other people to join the race?

It doesn't, as stated already. This is about fame and money. Selling some shitty book and that's it. It's about getting his name out there. Mission accomplished.

Gets 6 percent of the vote on some random election. WITH a tiny bit of notoriety to back him up mind you. Thinks he will somehow perform substantially better in a Presidential primary LMFAO.

The deez nuts kid outta be put back in the race.
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Inohira
10/12/23 5:49:53 PM
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BurmesePenguin posted...
IIRC Five38 had Buttigieg and what's her face at 0% after SC. If they saw their own political views reflected most strongly in Biden and doing so might put them in a cabinet position, what purpose would there be to not drop out and help him?

Logically it's a beneficial career move. But Bernie was looking at it as if everyone's lone priority was maximizing their odds of winning the nomination.

Basically without everyone playing the way Bernie does (lone soldier style) he can't win the game. That's the position a career outsider finds himself in.

Trump was very lucky that the GOP was full of unpleasant egomaniacs who'd never step aside for the next guy, even when it's their best move.

Tmaster148 posted...


How is a guy who has no chance of being on the ballot going to motivate other people to join the race?

It's already too late by the time voting starts. Cenk wants to motivate people now, through solid polling, before ballot registry deadlines close.

He's unlikely to poll well either, for a variety of reasons, but it's a last resort campaign.

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ThyCorndog
10/12/23 10:13:30 PM
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cenk running is such a waste of time. I guess it's no harm but I don't see the point

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