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Srk700
09/30/23 10:45:47 AM
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The Republican party ceasing to exist and good candidates popping up. That or Biden flipping to the Republican party.
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UnsteadyOwl
09/30/23 10:49:13 AM
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EmilyTheCEman posted...
Christie is the only Republican candidate I respect, but if he got the nomination I guarantee hed lean into the same extremist bullshit to get Trumpers on his side.

So yeah, its pretty much impossible for Biden to lose my vote.
Yeah, in the debates I've seen Christie and Haley try to present themselves as being more like pre-Trump Republicans but that's barely moved the needle for them. What most of the Republican base wants is Trumpism.

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TimeCrisis
09/30/23 10:50:20 AM
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Its happened already

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Big_Nabendu
09/30/23 10:58:30 AM
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I'm not voting for either

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legendary_zell
09/30/23 11:01:28 AM
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The total collapse, abolition, and banishing of the Republican Party
The creation of a successful socialist party
A 40-50 year old charismatic, non-tankie, non-social democrat, intersectional candidate running on the socialist ticket and creating a genuine movement.

So basically, an alternate timeline or the results of a civil war.

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creativerealms
09/30/23 11:03:17 AM
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Death.

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SayHeyyShohei
09/30/23 11:04:26 AM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
He never had my vote.

We know. Get banned already

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SayHeyyShohei
09/30/23 11:09:09 AM
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andel posted...
nah you are clearly an alt righter. biden is the most progressive potus we have had since fdr

"Clearly an alt righter" lmao

Yep, I'm a pro LGBT, universal health care supporting, anti fascist and socialist leaning, police defunding advocating, climate change believing, pro choice alt righter!

I'm so alt right that I donated to Bernie's campaign

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Torgo
09/30/23 11:11:56 AM
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Someone better has a real shot of being the bulwark against the republican fascist party taking back the executive branch.

Joe Brandon is a damage mitigation vote. Not ideal, but this isn't the 1990s anymore.

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LightHawKnight
09/30/23 11:18:15 AM
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So do people who say that they hate Biden, but claim not to be republicans, only watch fox news or what? They act as if Biden has done nothing, when he actually has done a shit ton for this country. Just getting us that much out of the hole the orange idiot put us in is only barely scratching the surface of shit he got done. Sure he isnt perfect, no one will ever be, specially when republicans have the power.

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Payzmaykr
09/30/23 11:19:18 AM
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The grocery prices that Ive been paying since the pandemic.
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Heineken14
09/30/23 11:20:32 AM
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Payzmaykr posted...
The grocery prices that Ive been paying since the pandemic.


And you think that will get better under a republican president? Why?

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SayHeyyShohei
09/30/23 11:20:55 AM
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LightHawKnight posted...
So do people who say that they hate Biden, but claim not to be republicans, only watch fox news or what? They act as if Biden has done nothing, when he actually has done a shit ton for this country. Just getting us that much out of the hole the orange idiot put us in is only barely scratching the surface of shit he got done. Sure he isnt perfect, no one will ever be, specially when republicans have the power.

This is his administration, not him. Biden has been a corporate neoliberal for decades, bordering on conservativism up until the end of the Obama administration.

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Payzmaykr
09/30/23 11:25:11 AM
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Heineken14 posted...
And you think that will get better under a republican president? Why?
Absolutely not. Im certainly not voting for a republican, but youre acting like Biden has done all of these great things for the country. Im sorry, but he hasnt. Im not a big fan of repeating the same mistake and hoping to get better results. Our nation needs someone younger who understands modern issues better. This guy doesnt represent people like us and he views us as worker bees, just like the republicans.

Youre projecting that everyone who doesnt want to vote for Biden is instantly a republican.
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luigi33
09/30/23 11:25:46 AM
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The entire Republican Party disappears and I'm their place a progressive party.

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tripleh213
09/30/23 11:32:10 AM
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We really dont have a choice but to vote for Biden

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Heineken14
09/30/23 11:33:00 AM
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Payzmaykr posted...

Absolutely not. Im certainly not voting for a republican, but youre acting like Biden has done all of these great things for the country. Im sorry, but he hasnt. Im not a big fan of repeating the same mistake and hoping to get better results. Our nation needs someone younger who understands modern issues better. This guy doesnt represent people like us and he views us as worker bees, just like the republicans.

Youre projecting that everyone who doesnt want to vote for Biden is instantly a republican.


Well no, I was merely asking you to clarify your post, because you seemed to have not paid attention to the topic. For a reminder, the topic title was this:

"What will it take for Biden to lose your vote?"

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Payzmaykr posted...
The grocery prices that Ive been paying since the pandemic.

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VeesMcGees
09/30/23 11:34:06 AM
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A republican nominee who I don't view as a threat to the USA. In that scenario, I'd just throw my vote away on a third party candidate.
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ScazarMeltex
09/30/23 11:41:28 AM
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UnsteadyOwl posted...
Yeah, in the debates I've seen Christie and Haley try to present themselves as being more like pre-Trump Republicans but that's barely moved the needle for them. What most of the Republican base wants is Trumpism.
Yeah, it will never not be funny to me to the GOP created and then courted a demographic of Fascists that they thought they had on a leash and have now lost control of their party to them.

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legendary_zell
09/30/23 11:44:53 AM
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There's plenty of those people, tankies really only exist online, we just all have the sense not to run for political office within this current system. Obama is a great example of that, he started out as exactly that, but had a change of heart or realized that he couldn't get anywhere with those politics in the 80s-00s.

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legendary_zell
09/30/23 11:48:36 AM
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LightHawKnight posted...
So do people who say that they hate Biden, but claim not to be republicans, only watch fox news or what? They act as if Biden has done nothing, when he actually has done a shit ton for this country. Just getting us that much out of the hole the orange idiot put us in is only barely scratching the surface of shit he got done. Sure he isnt perfect, no one will ever be, specially when republicans have the power.

He hasn't changed any of the underlying dynamics that led to Trump or still have us in danger of a second Trump terms. And he wasn't interested in doing so. He didn't think those things were wrong, or wasn't interested in the type of politics that could change those things. So here we are. Yes, he's done better than many of us expected, but he hasn't actually fixed a single thing. We're still in the hole, just not as far down.

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AbsolutelyNoOne
09/30/23 11:53:55 AM
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Someone left of him not only runs but somehow gets popular enough to the point the could feasibly win. In this climate that's probably about it. I have been satisfied enough with Biden to say he is more than just "guy in the Not Republican seat" now. I don't think I'd call him great but I would say he is pretty good.

I'll also chip in I'd feel much less intense about Biden if the GOP got behind Christie who is...I'll be honest, I think Christie is also pretty terrible. It's just that "pretty terrible" is good compared to the rest of the GOP these days and would be an important step in at least attempting to move them left of Nazism. And there is no way he gets the whole party's support without turning into your bog-standard Trump thug. That whole party is fucked.

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Bishop9800
09/30/23 11:56:27 AM
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Vicious_Dios posted...


I have way too much common sense to waste my vote on him.

We all know that's a lie

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Shadow_Don
09/30/23 11:59:11 AM
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PraetorXyn posted...
Yeah. But thats mostly because my expectations for him were 12 feet underground, so I was pleasantly surprised he stood at ground level. Acting like hes some bastion of progressive bills like the guy I was replying to did is just silly.

What do you seriously expect would have happened if it was Bernie or Cornel or Warren in office instead of biden?

Do you think we'd magically have medicaid for all or something?

This is literally as good as its going to get from any president until more dem congress people are put in office and until the SC changes.


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LightHawKnight
09/30/23 12:04:35 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
He hasn't changed any of the underlying dynamics that led to Trump or still have us in danger of a second Trump terms. And he wasn't interested in doing so. He didn't think those things were wrong, or wasn't interested in the type of politics that could change those things. So here we are. Yes, he's done better than many of us expected, but he hasn't actually fixed a single thing. We're still in the hole, just not as far down.

What can he change when his party doesnt have the power to do so?

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hockeybub89
09/30/23 12:05:07 PM
#78:


Another Democrat runs

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DirkDiggles
09/30/23 12:07:57 PM
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In order for Biden to lose my vote, he would have to shoot somebody on 5th Avenue.

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rideshort
09/30/23 12:10:30 PM
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The only scenario that could happen is if there's another Democratic candidate that has a proven track record of better progressive stances that actually passed during his/her terms and if the current make up of congress has a supermajority of Democrats in both chambers. Obviously the latter isn't going to happen and there are no strong Democratic nominees. Hell the good ones are backing Biden and will run instead iin 2028.

I will never vote Republican or Libertarian as none of them have any interests in serving the comman people. As an Independent, I do respect Ralph Nader.

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Strider102
09/30/23 12:13:39 PM
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Go from Dark Brandon to Light Brandon.

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PraetorXyn
09/30/23 12:16:47 PM
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andel posted...
nah you are clearly an alt righter. biden is the most progressive potus we have had since fdr
While true, thats more an indictment of all presidents since FDR than an endorsement of Biden. Props to him for clearing it, but the bar was incredibly low, and stepping over it is not remotely impressive.

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firedoom666
09/30/23 12:17:06 PM
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The only way I would vote against Biden is if there is some weird body swap shenanigans and between him and the republican nominee

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Tyranthraxus
09/30/23 12:20:41 PM
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  1. Die
  2. Not run for president
  3. Change sides to republican
He loses my vote if he does any of those three things.

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legendary_zell
09/30/23 12:24:30 PM
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LightHawKnight posted...
What can he change when his party doesnt have the power to do so?

He can't with the way he and the party do things now. You need the threat of organized outside mass movements with the power to throw sand in the gears when they don't get their way. The Democratic establishment is all about winning narrow victories without ever creating such groups. They're only slightly less opposed to such movements compared to Republicans.

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Vicious_Dios
09/30/23 12:27:44 PM
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tripleh213 posted...
We really dont have a choice but to vote for Biden

You absolutely have a choice. Lmao

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bfslick50
09/30/23 12:31:43 PM
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If Biden pulls off a mask mission impossible style to reveal Trump underneath who says I told yall I was still president.

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PraetorXyn
09/30/23 12:31:58 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
He can't with the way he and the party do things now. You need the threat of organized outside mass movements with the power to throw sand in the gears when they don't get their way. The Democratic establishment is all about winning narrow victories without ever creating such groups. They're only slightly less opposed to such movements compared to Republicans.
This. See Pelosi telling big insurance / big on arms not to get their parties in a knot, for example.

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Shadow_Don
09/30/23 12:32:08 PM
#89:


Vicious_Dios posted...
You absolutely have a choice. Lmao

"Purge all political opposition, war with Mexico and give Ukraine to Russia and burn books"

"Healthcare pls"

Yea I can see how that might be a tough decision for scumbags

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ClayGuida
09/30/23 12:32:13 PM
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Heineken14 posted...
Be a republican.


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emblem-man
09/30/23 12:38:30 PM
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LSGW_Zephyra posted...
That doesn't mean he has done enough.

He is still a corporatist who backs up police agencies when the time comes without addressing the actual issues.

It's keeping things from getting worse vs Nazis. I'm going to vote for the one not doing active harm but let's not pretend Biden is good.

PraetorXyn posted...
yes it is. This is like giving someone credit for putting a toe forward half an inch after they got knocked back 6 feet.

Whatever. It seems whoever is president will be considered one of 2 evils unless enact a socialist revolution. If that's the bar, then whatever

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hockeybub89
09/30/23 12:41:16 PM
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emblem-man posted...
Whatever. It seems whoever is president will be considered one of 2 evils unless enact a socialist revolution. If that's the bar, then whatever
Some of us don't like our country and our entire fucking lives being permanently ruined before our eyes. But I'm still gonna vote for Biden because he is not as bad as any Republican.

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LightHawKnight
09/30/23 12:45:10 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
He can't with the way he and the party do things now. You need the threat of organized outside mass movements with the power to throw sand in the gears when they don't get their way. The Democratic establishment is all about winning narrow victories without ever creating such groups. They're only slightly less opposed to such movements compared to Republicans.

Will any of that even do a thing to republicans?

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DarthAragorn
09/30/23 12:47:41 PM
#94:


Vicious_Dios posted...
You absolutely have a choice. Lmao
I technically have a choice between smashing my dick and balls with a hammer repeatedly and... not smashing my dick and balls with a hammer repeatedly

but it's not a real choice

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hockeybub89
09/30/23 12:49:39 PM
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I remember when those banned types told me I'm a fake progressive because I won't vote for the GOP's change over Biden's status quo lmao

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McMarbles
09/30/23 12:49:44 PM
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Euripides posted...
A "decent" republican will still disagree with 98% of my policy issues
Thats why I didnt put decent in quotes.

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emblem-man
09/30/23 1:23:04 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
He can't with the way he and the party do things now. You need the threat of organized outside mass movements with the power to throw sand in the gears when they don't get their way. The Democratic establishment is all about winning narrow victories without ever creating such groups. They're only slightly less opposed to such movements compared to Republicans.

Y'all essentially want a Democratic party version of the obstructionist shit the house Republicans do

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