Current Events > So is the foldable iPhone going to be the first smartphone to crack $2000 retail

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More like the first phone to crack after 3 seconds of intended use.

Plot twist- it's actually the next SE model and will cost $400-600.

LordFarquad1312 posted...

More like the first phone to crack after 3 seconds of intended use.

Oh no, that's not any kind of record.

For the base model?

Cause the Z Fold 5 definitely has options above $2k.

Foldable phones are stupid and pretty much nobody wants to develop for them because they're stupid, so all you'll be getting out of them for a long while are apps stretching (usually poorly) to fill the screen real estate.

Though more likely apps will just continue to be made without foldable phones in mind, and so they won't truly be supported for a long while.

$2000 and the screen has a chance to shatter when you flip it closed.

Go crazy you apple cult tools.

KINDERFELD posted...

$2000 and the screen has a chance to shatter when you flip it closed.

Go crazy you apple cult tools.

Apple isn't even the first to make foldable phones, let alone the first to charge $2000 for them.

KINDERFELD posted...

$2000 and the screen has a chance to shatter when you flip it closed.

Go crazy you apple cult tools.

Apple's response: "close it with your right hand"

StealThisSheen posted...

Apple isn't even the first to make foldable phones, let alone the first to charge $2000 for them.

Outside of stupid shit like gold plated phones what phone cost $2000?

Tyranthraxus posted...

Outside of stupid shit like gold plated phones what phone cost $2000?

The Z Fold 5, as already mentioned in this topic, had models over $2000.

EDIT: Basically, if you didn't want shitty storage, you had to pay either over $2000, or damn near close to it. But people ignore it because people love Samsung, for some reason.

I'm not at the point where I'm ready to trust smartphones with foldable screens. I don't know how they would get around having a crease.

CableZL posted...

I'm not at the point where I'm ready to trust smartphones with foldable screens. I don't know how they would get around having a crease.

Even beyond the potential for crease, virtually no apps whatsoever are designed with foldable phones in mind, since, for a foldable phone, they typically have to fit two different screen sizes for the same device, which is an additional step that, previously, never had to be taken, in development. Thus, most apps just kinda... Ignore it, and you either get apps that just stretch to fit the unfolded size (and ignore the folded size completely,) or just don't even actually support folded phones at all.

It's a dumb technology that is way too young to be pushed so heavily.

I'm typing this now on my Z Fold 5.

Love it, best phone I've ever had (previously had a Z Flip 3). The crease is a non issue as you can never see it and can barely feel it, the screen will never "shatter" after folding as it's been tested for 200k folds (folding it 100 times per day will take 5 years to hit 200k, and a youtuber actually did 400k before it broke), and all apps I've run since launch support both folded and unfolded sizes.

Can't wait until Apple releases one with the same features as the original Z Fold and everyone will say how amazing it is.

It will also crack its screen.

No point in having a foldable phone when cases exist that can fold out lol

What does a flip phone do that a regular smartphone can't do?

Flip

That alone adds $800 to $1000 in cost.

So we talking flip phone style or Nintendo DS style?

markconig posted...

I'm typing this now on my Z Fold 5.

Love it, best phone I've ever had (previously had a Z Flip 3). The crease is a non issue as you can never see it and can barely feel it, the screen will never "shatter" after folding as it's been tested for 200k folds (folding it 100 times per day will take 5 years to hit 200k, and a youtuber actually did 400k before it broke), and all apps I've run since launch support both folded and unfolded sizes.

Can't wait until Apple releases one with the same features as the original Z Fold and everyone will say how amazing it is.

How much is Samsung paying you? Is it good work?

StealThisSheen posted...

Foldable phones are stupid and pretty much nobody wants to develop for them because they're stupid, so all you'll be getting out of them for a long while are apps stretching (usually poorly) to fill the screen real estate.

Though more likely apps will just continue to be made without foldable phones in mind, and so they won't truly be supported for a long while.

If Apple released a foldable iPhone it would absolutely have support.

It would likely be somewhat mandated, but if you look at how the iPad/iPhone app stuff is handled, a foldable iPhone would totally be handled in the same way.

Are phones being so expensive some ploy to get you to enter contracts where the company gives you the phone really cheap but break that contract and you will be paying for it?

For the longest time I wouldn't pay more than 50 bucks for a phone. My current and most expensive phone was 120 bucks. Works just fine.

Only expensive phone I wanted was 400 bucks. But the selling point to me was its durability. Step father had one and he loved to demonstrate its durability he'd spike the damn thing off the floor like a football. Took years of his dumbass doing that for the screen to finally crack. Had he not loved showing it off he'd probably still have it.

Second one he had cracked only cause he dropped or off a 20 foot ladder and it hit the corner of metal panel box screen first. Phone still worked though

StealThisSheen posted...

Even beyond the potential for crease, virtually no apps whatsoever are designed with foldable phones in mind, since, for a foldable phone, they typically have to fit two different screen sizes for the same device, which is an additional step that, previously, never had to be taken, in development. Thus, most apps just kinda... Ignore it, and you either get apps that just stretch to fit the unfolded size (and ignore the folded size completely,) or just don't even actually support folded phones at all.

It's a dumb technology that is way too young to be pushed so heavily.

Tell me you haven't ever used (or even seen) a foldable device without telling me you've ever used (or even seen) a foldable device.

If Apple released a foldable iPhone it would absolutely have support

Precisely. In Apple parlance, a "gimmick" is defined as anything the competition has that Apple has yet to implement.

Once upon a time, big-screened phones, OLED displays, super telephoto cameras, styluses, high megapixel cameras, fast/wireless charging and much more were all "gimmicks" to the Apple faithful.

damn, can't believe has come up with the idea of a touchscreen flip phone till apple came up with it

KINDERFELD posted...

What does a flip phone do that a regular smartphone can't do?

Flip

That alone adds $800 to $1000 in cost.

Flip phones aren't fold phones. The Z-flip is way cheaper than the Z-fold.

I'm not sure why anyone would want that extra bulk in their pocket. They're pushing twice as thick as a normal phone. Fuck that gimmicky crap.

Bio1590 posted...

If Apple released a foldable iPhone it would absolutely have support.

It would likely be somewhat mandated, but if you look at how the iPad/iPhone app stuff is handled, a foldable iPhone would totally be handled in the same way.

This is partially correct.

In practice, there is literally nothing mandating any kind of support for both iPad and iPhone. In most cases, you develop an app for iPhone, then tap a checkbox for how you want it to handle iPad. Your choices are, basically:

A. Keep the resolution as the same on iPhone, which causes the app to load in a "letterbox" style format, and gives the user the option to zoom, or
B. Actually fill the iPad resolution, but then you actually have to manually develop with it in mind (increase text sizes where applicable, rearrange how things fill screen real estate, etc. and so on.)

So, to that effect, yes, Apple probably would provide a similar option for Swift, which would make it easier to have your app just... Work on a foldable phone. That's a perk of Apple, tough, which typically does not exist on Android. On Android, such as for the Z Flip, you HAVE to develop with it in mind. And while your huge mainstream apps have the money to throw that way, smaller apps are just going to give you a half-assed solution, if they give one at all, as we see today.

EDIT: That said, I got away from my main point. My own developer bias aside, foldable phones at the $2,000 price point already exist, so this isn't some Apple thing.

YellowSUV posted...

Flip phones aren't fold phones. The Z-flip is way cheaper than the Z-fold.

I'm sorry. One flips and the other folds.