Current Events > Is going to a strip club for a bachelor party wrong?

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Nothing says fidelity like spending a fun filled night with a bunch of random naked women who turn you on way more than your future wife

Most bachelor parties are thrust upon the bachelor. Same with bachelorettes. If she's that insecure, maybe she shouldn't ever get married.

Whether or not a persons boundaries are reasonable, if you are unable or unwilling to abide by them, then you need to find somebody else. Otherwise, all youre doing is square pegging a round hole. It doesnt work and its a miserable way to live an existence.

When my brother got married he was very clear about not wanting a stripper. Some of the guys tried to get him one anyway and were really pissed off when I told them no.

bsp77 posted...

No, it's not "obvious". Most women I know would have no problem with it, assuming you aren't paying for "extra".

And that's the issue right there. It's creating an opportunity for cheating and there are guys who will go for "extra" because they feel privileged as it's their last night being free. So I don't blame people who don't trust their future spouse enough to be disciplined enough to not take advantage of the moment and as a result ban their spouse from being in such situations entirely.

Sad_Face posted...

And that's the issue right there. It's creating an opportunity for cheating and there are guys who will go for "extra" because they feel privileged as it's their last night being free. So I don't blame people who don't trust their future spouse enough to be disciplined enough to not take advantage of the moment and as a result ban their spouse from being in such situations entirely.

Sounds to me that this is one of the many things that should be discussed way before getting married.

Sad_Face posted...

And that's the issue right there. It's creating an opportunity for cheating and there are guys who will go for "extra" because they feel privileged as it's their last night being free. So I don't blame people who don't trust their future spouse enough to be disciplined enough to not take advantage of the moment and as a result ban their spouse from being in such situations entirely.

I can only imagine if that kind of logic was just slapped onto a woman. "You can't trust a woman because there are woman who feel privileged to <insert things red pillers claim woman feel entitled to> because xyz"...... with the goto responses being "red pill" or "incel."

If that kind of logic shouldn't be applied to woman for the red pill nonesense they claim woman can't be trusted for, neither should people be openly okay with claiming similar rhetoric at men.

asdf8562 posted...

If that kind of logic shouldn't be applied to woman for the red pill nonesense they claim woman can't be trusted for, neither should people be openly okay with claiming similar rhetoric at men.

I feel like you're missing my point; if you don't have the discipline to respect boundaries, don't put yourself in an environment where you'll be tested. If your significant other doesn't trust you in a specific environment to maintain your boundaries, you should hash out that trust concern before you go back there. Gender is irrelevant. In fact, this can applied outside of relationships as well. If you go to a bar, refuse to respect your own alcoholic tolerance and get plastered and belligerent, the bar (and alcohol in general) is not for you.

I can see it being wrong back when abstinence until marriage was the norm, but now when it's not the norm? I don't see it being particularly bad.

As long as its a club and not a gang

It's ridiculous to think you'll be the only one your partner will find physically attractive in the world. But even more so is the "last night of freedom" tradition. Really shooting your marriage foot if that's what you want to imply going into it.

I do think its a thing that should be agreed to (or protested to) well before its about to happen, which also means sharing that opinion with the best [man/woman].
I personally only have a problem if its the night before (I know thats a traditional time for it but). I just dont want him to show up to our wedding looking like shit, covered in sparkles, and smelling like booze. Other than that, no issue with strip clubs/strippers.

If thats all it takes to make her not marry him, he should dodge the bullet and go to the club.

depends on the boundaries like people mentioned.

like a religious couple? yea i can see going to a strip club being a big no. but then i know girls that aren't religious and they got in fights with their BF looking at porn and considered that to be cheating. so any girl with that kind of mindset wouldn't be ok with it.

i've personally never been to a strip club and i'm in my 30s. supposed to go a few different times but plans always fell through. do have plans to go soon. personally i don't really think it's a big deal but then can't be mad at the girl if she goes to a male strip club.

@Sad_Face

I feel like you're missing my point; if you don't have the discipline to respect boundaries, don't put yourself in an environment where you'll be tested. If your significant other doesn't trust you in a specific environment to maintain your boundaries, you should hash out that trust concern before you go back there. Gender is irrelevant. In fact, this can applied outside of relationships as well. If you go to a bar, refuse to respect your own alcoholic tolerance and get plastered and belligerent, the bar (and alcohol in general) is not for you.

And you missed my point.

The same logic that shouldn't apply to a woman should not apply to a man either. Plain and simple.

"You can't trust your future wife hanging out with other men because there are woman who feel privileged to <insert one the other things red pillers claim woman feel entitled to> because xyz. These vixens should respect a man's boundaries."

If this topic was about a man not trusting his future wife, there's no doubt in my mind the words "red pill", "incel" or "controlling" would be used.

It shouldn't be "boundaries" when a woman wants something, but "controlling" if a man asks. Same applies to the conversation of trust, and conversations had. If it's controlling when a man does it, it's controlling when a woman does it. If it's called boundaries when a woman wants it, then it's boundaries when a man wants it. And vice-versa for everything I said between men and women.

Sad_Face posted...

And that's the issue right there. It's creating an opportunity for cheating and there are guys who will go for "extra" because they feel privileged as it's their last night being free. So I don't blame people who don't trust their future spouse enough to be disciplined enough to not take advantage of the moment and as a result ban their spouse from being in such situations entirely.

But this is so fucked up. Why are they getting married without trust?

bsp77 posted...

But this is so fucked up. Why are they getting married without trust?

People get married under those conditions all the time. Its mind boggling. Its a formula thats doomed to fail from day one.

Block_that_Kick posted...

People get married under those conditions all the time. Its mind boggling. Its a formula thats doomed to fail from day one.

Yeah, I know, but I don't get it.

I wouldn't care if my fiance went to strip club, or even if she kinda was flirtatious with someone. That stuff is fine. 100% trust her to never do anything, and she feels the same about me.

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