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Tom_Joad 09/20/23 3:38:32 PM #1: |
Move comes as education laws restricting teaching of race, sexuality and other topics are being implemented across the US --- "History shows again and again that nature points out the folly of man. Go go Godzilla!" Godzilla - Blue Oyster Cult ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ZannoL 09/20/23 3:39:05 PM #2: |
Wow. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tom_Joad 09/20/23 3:39:54 PM #3: |
Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.
George Santayana, The Life of Reason, 1905 --- And it's looking more and more like 1933. --- "History shows again and again that nature points out the folly of man. Go go Godzilla!" Godzilla - Blue Oyster Cult ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CARRRNE_ASADA 09/20/23 3:40:43 PM #4: |
Its fucking 8th grade! Theyre not little kids!
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Strider102 09/20/23 3:43:42 PM #5: |
Might as well not even have school or teachers anymore. You can't teach the truth anymore, you can only teach what the Right wants you to teach, which are lies.
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Zikten 09/20/23 3:45:26 PM #6: |
Such bullshit. The teacher should take this to the Supreme Court except well..... you know ... Copied to Clipboard!
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spikethedevil 09/20/23 3:47:07 PM #7: |
Warning disturbing imagery in this video.
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wackyteen 09/20/23 3:47:10 PM #8: |
CARRRNE_ASADA posted...
Its fucking 8th grade! Theyre not little kids! "But my BABY learned about SOMEONE THEIR AGE'S DESIRES. NOT MY BABY!" --- The name is wackyteen for a reason. Never doubt. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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spikethedevil 09/20/23 3:49:48 PM #9: |
Oh yeah and the most well known contemporary account us not teaching the truth about it? Fuck all the way off.
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bigblu89 09/20/23 3:50:38 PM #10: |
The fact that it was a graphic novel, or to be better put an "adaptation" and not the original source material that was already approved is what the issue is here, not that the teacher was teaching the story of Anne Frank.
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Purple_Cheetah 09/20/23 3:52:14 PM #11: |
Boobs really are the greatest evil of our time. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MuscleRobo 09/20/23 3:52:19 PM #12: |
This is absolute insanity, I thought maybe it had a graphic depiction of the concentration camps or something but it was for "sexuality?" I mean how graphic could it be? Not that it matters, it shouldn't be getting banned for that anyways! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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spikethedevil 09/20/23 3:53:09 PM #13: |
bigblu89 posted...
The fact that it was a graphic novel, or to be better put an "adaptation" and not the original source material that was already approved is what the issue is here, not that the teacher was teaching the story of Anne Frank. Fuck off defending this, you know full well why theyve done this. And the graphic novel version is probably a better way of teaching it to 13-14 year olds. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AngelsNAirwav3s 09/20/23 3:54:00 PM #14: |
MuscleRobo posted...
This is absolute insanity, I thought maybe it had a graphic depiction of the concentration camps or something but it was for "sexuality?" I mean how graphic could it be? Not that it matters, it shouldn't be getting banned for that anyways! You have never read Anne Frank? --- Hello world! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bigblu89 09/20/23 3:54:38 PM #15: |
spikethedevil posted...
Fuck off defending this, you know full well why theyve done this. And the graphic novel version is probably a better way of teaching it to 13-14 year olds. Wasn't defending it, was more stating that it was an easily avoidable situation. It would be like teaching kids about JFK's assassination by handing out pictures of his autopsy. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Frostshock 09/20/23 3:55:23 PM #16: |
My first reaction to hearing this is that there is no way a graphic novel is respectful to the original source material.
Who looks at Anne Frank's diary and says "yeah this should be more like Watchmen." --- Got questions about schoolwork? Want to share answers, or discuss your studies? Come to Homework Helpers! http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1060-homework-helpers ... Copied to Clipboard!
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spikethedevil 09/20/23 3:56:43 PM #17: |
bigblu89 posted...
Wasn't defending it, was more stating that it was an easily avoidable situation. Lol what a bs false equivalency. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AbsolutelyNoOne 09/20/23 3:57:23 PM #18: |
I lived in Ohio and learned about Anne Frank and much of the rest of the Holocaust in 7th grade.
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Southernfatman 09/20/23 3:58:45 PM #19: |
It's two birds with one stone for conservatives: ban something LGBTQ+ related and something that's negative towards Nazis.
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mercurydude 09/20/23 3:59:08 PM #20: |
bigblu89 posted...
Wasn't defending it, was more stating that it was an easily avoidable situation. I've read the diary, the section they were offended by is in it too. Showing the naked statues (nothing vulgar btw, think Venus de Milo) just put the words to imagery. They would try to get the diary banned too if they knew it was in there. The whole point here is that they want to erase LGBT people and don't want anyone knowing that Anne had an attraction to other girls. --- God forbid you ever had to walk a mile in her shoes, 'cause then you really might know what it's like to have to choose. - Everlast ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MuscleRobo 09/20/23 3:59:16 PM #21: |
AngelsNAirwav3s posted... You have never read Anne Frank?I haven't read this graphic novel so I don't know what the illustrations look like or how much is added for context. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bigblu89 09/20/23 4:00:35 PM #22: |
spikethedevil posted...
Lol what a bs false equivalency. It really isn't. It's going beyond the source material that was approved for the class you are being paid to teach. As a teacher, you have a choice of using the source material that is provided to you by the school you work for, or you can go beyond the curriculum and face the consequences of your actions. I'm all for teaching kids, especially ones that are on the cusp of, or have just gone through puberty and are having sexual thoughts for possibly the first times ever, but I'm not so sure if during a lesson about World War II is the time to do it. So using the version of Anne Frank that leaves that part out doesn't really change the message of the book in the slightest. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bigblu89 09/20/23 4:03:54 PM #23: |
mercurydude posted...
I've read the diary, the section they were offended by is in it too. Showing the naked statues (nothing vulgar btw, think Venus de Milo) just put the words to imagery. They would try to get the diary banned too if they knew it was in there. The whole point here is that they want to erase LGBT people and don't want anyone knowing that Anne had an attraction to other girls. That would be a different story altogether. If they were trying to ban the original source material, then you have a point, 100%. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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spikethedevil 09/20/23 4:03:54 PM #24: |
bigblu89 posted...
It really isn't. It's going beyond the source material that was approved for the class you are being paid to teach. How the fuck is that teaching them about sex stuff FFS? Theyre 13-14 not 5. Your trolling at this point and yes are defending book bans for BS reasons and leaving any part out of her diary is insulting to her and in general disgusting. --- A garbage pod!? It's a smegging garbage pod! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 09/20/23 4:08:20 PM #25: |
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dancing_cactuar 09/20/23 4:09:04 PM #26: |
I am both offended that they were fired for teaching Anne Frank and confused that an Anne Frank graphic novel even exists in the first place.
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GeminiDeus 09/20/23 4:11:53 PM #27: |
8th grade was actually when I learned about the genocide, who Hitler was and what he did, and of course read The Diary of Anne Frank. We even had a field trip to see a play of it.
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bigblu89 09/20/23 4:12:00 PM #28: |
spikethedevil posted...
How the fuck is that teaching them about sex stuff FFS? Theyre 13-14 not 5. Your trolling at this point and yes are defending book bans for BS reasons and leaving any part out of her diary is insulting to her and in general disgusting.Jackass. I'm not defending book banning. If they were trying to ban the ORIGINAL version of Anne Frank, then you would 100% have a point. The actual lesson the teacher was teaching was about Anne Frank. They were supposed to read The Diary of Anne Frank. The original version. The teacher decided to use a non-approved version of the story. It would be like assigning the book "Of Mice and Men" and instead of the original source material, you gave the kids a graphic novel that had illustrations of Lenny ripping the heads of mice, and a graphic picture of George blowing Lenny's head off. But whatever. I don't live in Texas, and both of my kids already read Anne Frank, so I really don't give a fuck about this anyway. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AldousIsDead 09/20/23 4:12:50 PM #29: |
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Priere 09/20/23 4:13:08 PM #30: |
There is an Anne Frank graphic novel?
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Murphiroth 09/20/23 4:13:09 PM #31: |
bigblu89 posted... Wasn't defending it, was more stating that it was an easily avoidable situation. "Wasn't defending it, so I'll spend multiple posts defending it!" Y'all are always so transparent with this sealioning shit. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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spikethedevil 09/20/23 4:13:21 PM #32: |
The graphic novel has reviewed very well looking at google so I assume the teacher thought it might be an easier way of teaching it.
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Mizznox 09/20/23 4:18:23 PM #33: |
Frostshock posted...
My first reaction to hearing this is that there is no way a graphic novel is respectful to the original source material. Well, why do you assume that? --- https://i.imgur.com/qUAL3fG.gifv ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bigblu89 09/20/23 4:33:53 PM #34: |
Murphiroth posted...
"Wasn't defending it, so I'll spend multiple posts defending it!" I wasn't. I was ONLY defending the school's decision to not allow a version that wasn't pre-approved. But reading further into it, there seems to be a disagreement on whether or not that version was approved or not. Teacher has gotten an attorney and is fighting that is was. If it was approved, than I hope she sues the district for every dollar they have. District officials claim the adaptation of Anne Frank's Diary has never been approved, yet it was on a reading list sent to parents at the start of the school year. So while the district is implying the teacher went rogue, parents believe someone higher than her knew about the book being part of the class. --- It takes zero effort to be a good person. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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