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GranTurismo 09/13/23 8:00:18 PM #1: |
have heard some scientists hypothesize that it was because of great selective pressure. Like the meat eaters had to also grow big so they could eat the plant eaters. Does this sound plausible to you? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Torgo 09/13/23 8:02:30 PM #2: |
GranTurismo posted...
have heard some scientists hypothesize that it was because of great selective pressure. Like the meat eaters had to also grow big so they could eat the plant eaters. Does this sound plausible to you? No. For one thing, the atmosphere was more oxygen rich back then. Also the planet was warmer and more damp so good for large reptilians that spend time near water. --- Be careful: I was moderated for telling people not to commit illegal acts of assault and murder. It's not worth trying to be the voice of reason sometimes. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smallville 09/13/23 8:09:06 PM #3: |
idk
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ReiRei89 09/13/23 8:10:42 PM #4: |
Torgo posted...
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lilORANG 09/13/23 8:12:52 PM #5: |
Lots of oxygen makes for big boys
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HornyLevel 09/13/23 8:13:55 PM #6: |
GranTurismo posted...
have heard some scientists hypothesize that it was because of great selective pressure. Like the meat eaters had to also grow big so they could eat the plant eaters. Does this sound plausible to you?No, plant eaters grow big to avoid getting eaten. It happens today too. Torgo posted... No.Partially. There was actually less oxygen back then (something like 15% vs 21%) and the oxygen hypothesis has largely been debunked. They evolved that way because of their environment. There were still lots of small dinosaurs and some of the biggest animals ever are alive today. --- Nani?!? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AloofHermit 09/13/23 8:13:59 PM #7: |
dinosaurs were not real
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haloiscoolisbak 09/13/23 8:14:57 PM #8: |
The blue whale is the largest animal to ever exist right?
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Smallville 09/13/23 8:15:01 PM #9: |
HornyLevel posted...
No, plant eaters grow big to avoid getting eaten. It happens today too.yeah the plant eaters grew to avoid being eaten and then the meat eaters had to grow, too --- "That won't work Boss, hide the target in a place they're unlikely to be found"---GZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Torgo 09/13/23 8:18:00 PM #10: |
Looking into a little deeper, it's yes and no on the oxygen thing:
Higher oxygen levels helped dinosaurs to thrive and spread, experts find https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/dinosaurs-extinct-oxygen-america-atmosphere-a9072326.html Rising levels of oxygen in the atmosphere hundreds of millions of years ago helped dinosaurs in North America to flourish, scientists have found. --- Be careful: I was moderated for telling people not to commit illegal acts of assault and murder. It's not worth trying to be the voice of reason sometimes. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smallville 09/13/23 8:19:12 PM #11: |
i read that scientists know the oxygen content was higher because a little oxygen was trapped in like little ari bubbles with ancient amber. Amazing stuff
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Naysaspace 09/13/23 8:19:35 PM #12: |
part of the reason that bugs grew so big was the composition of the atmosphere back then. A lot more oxygen, they say ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DirkDiggles 09/13/23 8:19:53 PM #13: |
Because of......DINO DNA!
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Ratchetrockon 09/13/23 8:29:18 PM #14: |
Was gravity smaller back in the day
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Smallville 09/14/23 7:36:17 AM #15: |
bumpi
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Avirosb 09/14/23 7:37:46 AM #16: |
A lot more jungle and stuff, and things.
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Revelation34 09/14/23 7:38:02 AM #17: |
AloofHermit posted...
dinosaurs were not real There are millions of flat earthers around the world. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms, Switch: SW-1900-5502-7912 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smallville 09/14/23 7:42:09 AM #18: |
Revelation34 posted...
There are millions of flat earthers around the world.Is that poster really serious? --- "That won't work Boss, hide the target in a place they're unlikely to be found"---GZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tenlaar 09/14/23 7:46:53 AM #19: |
Yeah, the meat eaters had to grow the biggest. You can see this in action by looking at the largest animals alive today, like whaleswait, no, elephantsshit, I meant rhinosactually if you look at hipposfuck. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranTurismo 09/14/23 7:48:33 AM #20: |
Tenlaar posted... Yeah, the meat eaters had to grow the biggest. You can see this in action by looking at the largest animals alive today, like whaleswait, no, elephantsshit, I meant rhinosactually if you look at hipposfuck.it said the meat eaters had to grow large because the plant eaters were too. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rynobot 09/14/23 7:49:22 AM #22: |
Tenlaar posted...
Yeah, the meat eaters had to grow the biggest. You can see this in action by looking at the largest animals alive today, like whaleswait, no, elephantsshit, I meant rhinosactually if you look at hipposfuck.Your Mom? --- GT: rynobot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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indica 09/14/23 8:52:02 AM #23: |
The higher oxygen thing is definitely true in regards to the giant size of insects though--their size is deeply impacted by not having lungs...
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Cartoon_Quoter 09/14/23 8:55:00 AM #24: |
Ratchetrockon posted...
Was gravity smaller back in the day only slightly, only slightly. --- I apologize for nothing! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Priere 09/14/23 8:58:42 AM #25: |
What if dinos were actually super tiny, but since their bones were in the ground for so long they just filled with water and swelled up?
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rodu_jr 09/14/23 9:12:48 AM #26: |
The high oxygen levels helped the insects get very large, as they absorb it through their exoskeletons, rather than breathe it like we do.This was also a hundred million years+ before the dinosaurs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranTurismo 09/14/23 9:15:01 AM #27: |
wasn't there like a 2 ft dragonfly? Forgot when that dragonfly was, before the dinosaurs? Don't remember any other ancient insects besides that one ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rodu_jr 09/14/23 9:18:23 AM #28: |
GranTurismo posted... wasn't there like a 2 ft dragonfly? Forgot when that dragonfly was, before the dinosaurs? Don't remember any other ancient insects besides that oneyeah and centipedes several feet long ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranTurismo 09/14/23 9:19:37 AM #29: |
rodu_jr posted... yeah and centipedes several feet longhow many yrs ago did those 2 live? What you read about these 2 on wikipedia or something? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ratchetrockon 09/14/23 9:37:11 AM #30: |
Is it possible to grow giant insects by keeping them in higher oxygen enclosure and then letting them breed for many generations?
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Smallville 09/14/23 10:02:20 AM #32: |
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AloofHermit 09/14/23 6:58:14 PM #33: |
Smallville posted...
Is that poster really serious?yes --- Steam: AloofHermit37 http://error1355.com/ce/Gunpo.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 09/14/23 7:01:21 PM #34: |
If the Expanding Earth theory Neal Adams was all over is to be believed (it's curious, but likely bullshit), the earth had about half its diameter, thus roughly four times the gravity. Things got big because they had to. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 09/14/23 7:03:59 PM #35: |
haloiscoolisbak posted...
The blue whale is the largest animal to ever exist right? I believe they have very recently found something even bigger than a blue whale. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://i.imgur.com/dQgC4kv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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VeesMcGees 09/14/23 7:04:33 PM #36: |
There wasnt always more oxygen in the atmosphere. The Mesozoic was a long time. While the oxygen levels were higher at one point, I believe that was the Cretaceous, while the Jurassic had lower oxygen levels (more comparable to the present). It was certainly a matter of outgrowing the predators for prey and the predators growing to have a niche eating the large herbivores. This happened later with mammals and is a pretty common evolutionary route for land animals to go. Of course, the larger dinosaurs often did end up with evolutionary features to make their size less of a hindrance. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 09/14/23 7:09:28 PM #37: |
VeesMcGees posted... There wasnt always more oxygen in the atmosphere.Did anyone figure out where all the nitrogen came from? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranTurismo 09/14/23 7:22:52 PM #38: |
AloofHermit posted... yesWhy don't you believe they ever existed though? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Aressar 09/14/23 7:23:40 PM #39: |
GranTurismo posted...
have heard some scientists hypothesize that it was because of great selective pressure. Like the meat eaters had to also grow big so they could eat the plant eaters. Does this sound plausible to you? How is this logical though? It's not like living beings choose to grow larger. That's not how evolution works. --- One time, CE triggered me so hard with their objectively wrong opinions that I accidentally punched myself in the balls. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GranTurismo 09/14/23 7:27:22 PM #40: |
Aressar posted... How is this logical though? It's not like living beings choose to grow larger. That's not how evolution works.Read post no . 36, there's your answer ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mazingetter 09/14/23 7:35:14 PM #41: |
I remember reading an old sci-fi novel, where scientists postulate that the Earth back then had lower gravity and faster rotation. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rodu_jr 09/14/23 9:17:38 PM #42: |
GranTurismo posted... how many yrs ago did those 2 live? What you read about these 2 on wikipedia or something?Carboniferous Period 350-300 million years ago saw it in a BBC documentary Walking with Monsters, decades ago ... Copied to Clipboard!
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divot1338 09/14/23 9:20:53 PM #44: |
The same reason as Americans. A high fat diet combined with no exercise.
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Questionmarktarius 09/14/23 9:25:23 PM #45: |
rodu_jr posted... Carboniferous Period 350-300 million years agoDoes that explain the nitrogen? Look around, right now. Almost all you don't see is nitrogen. The atmosphere is 78% nitrogen, 20% oxygen, 1% argon, and then the rest. Carbon dioxide is 0.4%. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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bfslick50 09/14/23 9:26:25 PM #46: |
Ratchetrockon posted...
Is it possible to grow giant insects by keeping them in higher oxygen enclosure and then letting them breed for many generations? Its like the Jurassic Park movies only without the wonder and amazement at the start when theyre still in cages. Just straight horror even when theyre still in cages. --- "Something's wrong! Murder isn't working and that's all we're good at." ~Futurama ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 09/14/23 9:40:33 PM #47: |
For more info on giant bugs, look for a documentary called Walking With Monsters. It's a prequel to Walking With Dinosaurs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walking_with_Monsters?wprov=sfla1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smallville 09/14/23 10:24:40 PM #48: |
Zikten posted...
For more info on giant bugs, look for a documentary called Walking With Monsters. It's a prequel to Walking With Dinosaursyou area a big fan of dinosaur documentaries? Have you ever seen one called clash of the dinosaurs? Iirc most of the major ones can be found on youtube --- "That won't work Boss, hide the target in a place they're unlikely to be found"---GZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 09/14/23 10:31:29 PM #49: |
Smallville posted... you area a big fan of dinosaur documentaries? Have you ever seen one called clash of the dinosaurs? Iirc most of the major ones can be found on youtubeI don't think i have seen that one ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smallville 09/14/23 10:41:19 PM #50: |
Zikten posted...
I don't think i have seen that oneit's really good. Might be my favorite. Look it up on youtube. You've heard of bob baaker haven't you? might be the most famous current paleontologist. He's in this one --- "That won't work Boss, hide the target in a place they're unlikely to be found"---GZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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