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Its like why? Why change that needlessly?

guess the more we try to make sense of Dragon Ball Z the more we realize it just doesn't make sense which exposes how dumb these arguments really are cause the same dude getting bruised by a regular actual normal gun just move his finger and vaporizes a city? no that doesn't make any sense let alone such vaporization breaks the law of physics to begin with as it produces no shockwave or gas or anything....

guess in the end just let DBZ fans think what they want cause none of it actually has real logic behind it
Edit: I am fan too but not a "hhaha Goku beats everyone! ahahha" type of fan

It's fine as long as we don't include anything from Super. Super is inconsistent with every aspect of Dragonball/Z. All of its lore was created on the fly without the previous installments even being considered

Roshi in his Buff form with a charged ki attack could blow up the moon

Early Z Piccolo causally blows up the moon

But it is explicitly stated durability is linked to Ki so lowering your Ki too much and being lax is grounds for much weaker opponents/force to hurt you

fans will try to retcon it and salvage the logic with "but he MUST have used KI!" except not mentioned or anything so yea....

also no one casually blows up the moon

Eh, to be fair DBZ is not consistent with DB either as I mentioned somewhat earlier. The franchise is best viewed as three series that *loosely* pull on each other rather than being full canons of each other. This is largely because Toriyama has over time tried to make things more consistent as time went on. OG Dragonball can best be compared to Silver Age American comics, where the rules were REALLY fucking loose. As time goes by the franchise tries to standardize more and more, which is how we got the Power Level system. That, too, though eventually was more of a hindrance than a help and got dumped.

Things are pretty internally consistent inside Super at this point but it clearly gives zero fucks about how it relates to DBZ.

Obviously the alien civilizations are fiction and so is Raditz, but this is a hypothetical scenario. I don't necessarily know Toriyama's background but I'm sure he didn't have intimate knowledge of modern military capabilities at when he wrote the episodes. I think that's important, because as writer, his ideas of "advanced" and "powerful" militaries are/were probably much lesser than what even the human military actually is. As seen in DBZ. This is common in almost ALL forms of media featuring our own military actually. Perfect example is how the military is always defeated by zombies. That wouldn't happen in real life lmfao. What I'm saying is, someone who isn't knowledgeable on how powerful a military is will likely undersell how powerful militaries are in a story they make, and applies to fictional militaries even with some sci-fi imagination. The real US military is probably stronger than any military shown in Dragon Ball.

There's really no way to know if Raditz can survive radiation. What we do know is that all Saiyans travel through space using spaceships that almost certainly block radiation. Pretty much Space Travel Design Must-have 101 (that we know of). Could the alien planets he visited have had radiation on them? Who knows. They coincidentally all had to have breathable oxygen so... a radioactive planet would probably be deemed inhospitable.

also no one casually blows up the moon
there should be actual repercussions like effects on gravity, debris and on and on

yet in these hypotheticals people want to try mathematically say how much force goku punch is or claim he can move at the speed of light when this is a series physics just doesn't apply correctly to

Roshi did it and then Piccolo did it again a few years later. Why enter a topic about cartoon characters just to quibble over real life physics? You do know you're crying foul in a topic that's about a man that can turn into a giant gorilla during a full moon, right?

The dude travels the stars, he's conquered worlds,

Because you try to argue real life physics as why the methods used wouldn't work.

Only 28 worlds even have mortal life as proved already ITT

See also the shit I said about Silver Age comics. Feats were SUPER inconsistent before the Namek saga.

That's me arguing real life physics in a hypothetical matchup vs you denouncing an act as being impossible despite it literally happening on screen twice. That's like arguing that Sherlock Holmes could never solve a crime and you refusing to believe any depiction of him doing so despite that very thing happening all the time right in front of you.

You gotta make up your mind holmes. Do you believe the things that the characters say happen in the series or don't you? You can't have it both ways.

No that is assuming the writer carefully added physics to support your argument that Raditz knows all about harmful radiation when the writer probably doesn't even know about it as he thinks the moon can just go blip like it is nothing.

I want to know if they actually state this because it isn't adding up.

Do you also need to know the physics behind Raditz turning into a giant gorilla too, or just the one part that you think is a stupid gotcha?

, that Raditz has been conquering planets since he was a child

OH WOW

it is WORSE than I thought

Frieza, as in his ENTIRE force only

only conquered 79

79 planets

WHAT!!!! You think Raditz was there at all of them! This dude not hardened at all. LMAO

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/2000113-dragon-ball-general/72297733

but this seems to checkout with how super implies the number of planets being

If the dude conguered at least a single planet then real life Earth stands no chance cause this is only just one planet too lol

You were implying he saw all sort of tech and stuff. If he was only on one planet he did not. He doesn't know what a nuke is.

If conventional or nuclear weapons could work on Saiyans, then they wouldn't be that serious of a threat, now would they?

All I know is that the woman in the series that builds dragon radars, time machines, gravity machines, and develops heart medication that's effective on an alien never once considered protecting the planet with nukes. Pretty sure there's an implication that they're not helpful against the fighters that show up and threaten the place.

If DBZ Earth had nukes why did they not use them?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BI4SiLKfaPY

Also should mention Cell literally stood there and let them hit him with everything.

I feel like it betrays your point to insinuate that the DBZ earth doesn't have the capacity to field weaponry on par with the real life earth while showing their military fighting a weapon created by an earthling in a cave that's capable of blowing up the solar system.

the woman in the series that builds dragon radars, time machines, gravity machines, and develops heart medication that's effective on an alien never once considered protecting the planet with nukes

I feel like it betrays your point to insinuate that the DBZ earth doesn't have the capacity to field weaponry on par with the real life earth while showing their military fighting a weapon created by an earthling in a cave that's capable of blowing up the solar system.

Also should mention Cell literally stood there and let them hit him with everything.

Lastly... nukes. People have talked about nukes but I feel they're not giving them enough credit. Modern nukes are WAY stronger than they were in the 40s. Our strongest nuke is the B53 that has a 3.4 mile fire blast. That's massive. Perhaps the destructive force of a nuke wouldn't kill Raditz, but do you know what would...? The heat of the blast. Commonly forgotten about factor of nukes.

It actually did another great job of displaying what I was saying earlier. Toriyama's idea of the Earth's military translates to a weak, helpless force of guys with assault rifles, tanks, and jets all firing small missiles. As I said before, it's not unique to DBZ. "The military" is always weak and useless if not outright stupid in every form of media. In real life, that's not the case. IRL, we would've hit him with a nuke or multiple nukes and he'd take all of that 100MC because he'd probably stand still. Wouldn't see it coming either. He'd still survive though since its Perfect Cell.

Also it should be pretty obvious by know that the DBZ militaries do not have access to Gero and Bulma's technology. They're outliers.

Id say it goes beyond the military and into humanity as a whole. DB humans outside of the Z fighters are worse than muggles. They are morons. They actually believe a being that shrugged off military ordnance could be defeated by Mr Satan with his bare hands.

sadly this could happen in our world too

Raditz cannot be defeated by any of our weapons. We're doomed as fuck.

Krillin threw a rock at SSJ Goku and it hurt him

https://youtu.be/8TM7XMr1WNI?si=JQW-ixeuf4IFRN5u

Krillin threw a rock at SSJ Goku and it hurt him

https://youtu.be/8TM7XMr1WNI?si=JQW-ixeuf4IFRN5u

It very clearly hit his earring and didn't even break it. But also, wasn't that some kind of extra-super bullet created by Bulma? It's not like it was just "a sniper," it was a sniper armed with what's basically the pinnacle of human armament. Bulma has a ton of experience with Goku, Vegeta, etc. and is uniquely equpped to make something powerful to use against them.

And it still didn't break a potara earring. You really think it would have hurt him?

It was also a super bullet brought from an entirely different timeline built to have a harder punch than any standard military equipment. Also it hit him squarely in the head and due to the extra force, it managed to knock him down. It did not break the skin and didn't really come close to killing him. They call it a pathetic attempt.