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boxoto
08/10/23 3:14:30 PM
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Two members of the United States Navy have been arrested on charges that they provided military secrets to China, compromising national security.
Speaking at a press conference on Thursday, Assistant Attorney General for National Security Matt Olsen said his division would be relentless in pursuing accountability.
Through the alleged crimes committed by these defendants, sensitive military information ended up in the hands of the Peoples Republic of China, he said.

Olsen added that China stands apart in the threat it poses to US security: China is unrivaled in the audacity and range of its malign efforts to subvert our laws.

The accused Navy service-members were identified as Jinchao Wei, also known by the first name Patrick, and 26-year-old Wenheng Zhao, who goes by Thomas.

The two sailors were involved in separate information-gathering operations while in the employment of the US Navy, according to the Department of Justice.

For Wei, the alleged conspiracy began in 2022, when he served as a machinists mate aboard the USS Essex, an amphibious assault ship.

In February of that year, he started to communicate with a Chinese intelligence officer who sought information about the Essex and other ships in the US Navy, according to prosecutors.

They accuse Wei of sending dozens of technical manuals and blueprints to the Chinese intelligence officer, revealing weapons systems and other critical technology used on board the ships.

Wei also took photos and videos of military equipment, according to the Justice Department.

In one case, the Chinese intelligence officer asked for information about an upcoming maritime warfare exercise involving US Marines. In response to this request, prosecutors wrote, Wei sent multiple photographs of military equipment to the intelligence officer.

Wei was ultimately charged with conspiracy to send national defence information to China.

The case against Petty Officer Zhao, meanwhile, hinges on bribes he allegedly took in exchange for sharing sensitive military information he had access to through his US security clearance.

In August 2021, the Justice Department alleges that a Chinese intelligence officer approached Zhao under the guise of working as a maritime economic researcher, seeking investment information.

Zhao is accused of taking photos and recording videos on the intelligence officers behalf. Among the information transmitted were the plans for a large-scale military exercise in the Indo-Pacific region and the blueprints for a base in Japan.

The indictment said he received approximately $14,866 for the information.

The cases against the two men come at a time of heightened tension between the US and China, with both sides accusing the other of espionage.
In late January, for instance, a political uproar erupted in the US after an alleged Chinese spy balloon was spotted crossing North America, passing over sensitive military sites.
The Chinese government dismissed the aircraft as a civilian weather balloon, but US officials doubled down, saying in February it was clearly for intelligence surveillance.
The balloon was ultimately shot down over the Atlantic Ocean on February 4, an action the Chinese foreign ministry called an obvious overreaction. The ministry has since accused the US of flying its own spy balloons over Chinese airspace, an allegation the US, in turn, has denied.
But the tit-for-tat between the two countries representing the two largest economies in the world has only continued since.
In April, the US government arrested two men for running a secret police station in New York City, in order to engage in transnational repression of activists and dissidents. China has denied such covert police stations exist.
And in June, US media carried reports that China was preparing a secret eavesdropping facility in Cuba. Both Cuba and China slammed that allegation as slander.

But while US intelligence officials have called China the leading and most consequential threat to US national security and leadership globally, President Joe Biden predicted in May that a thaw would soon occur between the two countries. Diplomats from both sides have been meeting regularly.

Still, in Thursdays announcement, Assistant Attorney General Matthew Olsen took a firm stance over the question of espionage.

Make no mistake, as a department, we will continue to use every legal tool in our arsenal to counter that threat and to deter the PRC [Peoples Republic of China] and those who aid it in violating the rule of law and threatening our national security, he said.

https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2023/8/3/us-arrests-navy-sailors-over-alleged-schemes-to-send-china-military-secrets

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solosnake
08/10/23 3:15:50 PM
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Hopefully they didnt give them any info on the UFOs

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ironman2009
08/10/23 3:17:13 PM
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Well, those guys are gonna have a bad time for a long while.

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voldothegr8
08/10/23 3:18:33 PM
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Life without parole

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Mussurana
08/10/23 3:20:01 PM
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Go to jail
Go directly to jail
Do not pass Go
Do not collect 200

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boxoto
08/10/23 3:21:18 PM
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apparently, the mom of one of the sailors encouraged him to do so:

The mother of a US Navy sailor charged with providing sensitive military information to China encouraged him to cooperate with a Chinese intelligence officer, telling her son it might help him get a job with the Chinese government someday, the prosecution said.

more at link: https://tinyurl.com/3np7tv6e

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Sariana21
08/10/23 3:21:29 PM
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Jail? Just hand em over to their shipmates.

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eggcorn
08/10/23 3:21:31 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Life without parole


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streamofthesky
08/10/23 3:25:25 PM
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boxoto posted...
apparently, the mom of one of the sailors encouraged him to do so:

more at link: https://tinyurl.com/3np7tv6e
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invertedlegdrop
08/10/23 3:28:03 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
Throw the mom in jail, too

Thats what im talking about...

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brestugo
08/10/23 3:34:58 PM
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Sariana21 posted...
Jail? Just hand em over to their shipmates.

Code red.

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Irony
08/10/23 3:36:04 PM
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Cement shoes

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CountDog
08/10/23 3:36:12 PM
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A friend of my worked in intelligence his whole life. Told me U.S, and China, know which personnel are spying, what they are taking, and for how long. He mentioned that generally they might spend years never arresting a spy. Or the spy may go on spying their whole life. He said there's a fine line. And typically we just let them be. He said, China, and Russia, do the same thing. Or else it will just erupt into chaos.

He always said to never take military news too seriously, or politics for that matter.

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itcheyness
08/10/23 3:36:46 PM
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I'm in favor of a good old fashioned keel-haul...

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Mussurana
08/10/23 3:38:06 PM
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brestugo posted...
Code red.
Respectfully disagree.

How we treat the worst of society greatly reflects on us.

Let the law take its course, and should the allegations prove true, I imagine a lengthy stay in prison will result.

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Mussurana
08/10/23 3:40:49 PM
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CountDog posted...
A friend of my worked in intelligence his whole life. Told me U.S, and China, know which personnel are spying, what they are taking, and for how long. He mentioned that generally they might spend years never arresting a spy. Or the spy may go on spying their whole life. He said there's a fine line. And typically we just let them be. He said, China, and Russia, do the same thing. Or else it will just erupt into chaos.

He always said to never take military news too seriously, or politics for that matter.
Usually these are ostensibly diplomatic personnel, that everyone is well aware are really intelligence officers (everyone does this).

If they're too naughty, expulsions generally result.

This is a bit different.

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TheMikh
08/10/23 3:42:31 PM
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CountDog posted...

fascinating hearing an inside perspective. what's the catalyst for the decision to prosecute? and in what way would chaos erupt?

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voldothegr8
08/10/23 3:42:52 PM
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CountDog posted...
A friend of my worked in intelligence his whole life. Told me U.S, and China, know which personnel are spying, what they are taking, and for how long. He mentioned that generally they might spend years never arresting a spy. Or the spy may go on spying their whole life. He said there's a fine line. And typically we just let them be. He said, China, and Russia, do the same thing. Or else it will just erupt into chaos.

He always said to never take military news too seriously, or politics for that matter.
So in other words, this guy crossed somebody's line.

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DKBananaSlamma
08/10/23 3:45:11 PM
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CountDog posted...
A friend of my worked in intelligence his whole life. Told me U.S, and China, know which personnel are spying, what they are taking, and for how long. He mentioned that generally they might spend years never arresting a spy. Or the spy may go on spying their whole life. He said there's a fine line. And typically we just let them be. He said, China, and Russia, do the same thing. Or else it will just erupt into chaos.

He always said to never take military news too seriously, or politics for that matter.
Interesting if this is true

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Master_Kazuya
08/10/23 3:47:42 PM
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What kind of info would be valuable?

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legendary_zell
08/10/23 3:52:19 PM
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itcheyness posted...
I'm in favor of a good old fashioned keel-haul...

This post made me finally look up what keel haul actually means. Holy shit, what an awful thing.

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Mussurana
08/10/23 3:54:27 PM
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legendary_zell posted...
This post made me finally look up what keel haul actually means. Holy shit, what an awful thing.
For your next mental trauma, look up the origins of the phrase, "no room to swing a cat".

Historical military discipline was often brutal.

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CountDog
08/10/23 5:29:03 PM
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TheMikh posted...
fascinating hearing an inside perspective. what's the catalyst for the decision to prosecute? and in what way would chaos erupt?
I'm not entirely sure why a choice is made to arrest someone, or to deport them. But my friend mentioned that if we killed, arrested, and or deported every spy. Then the other countries would do the same. That's about all I was told regarding this specific subject.

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divot1338
08/10/23 5:37:36 PM
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Warning to China: Hands off American seamen!

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eggcorn
08/11/23 12:10:14 AM
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CountDog posted...
A friend of my worked in intelligence his whole life. Told me U.S, and China, know which personnel are spying, what they are taking, and for how long. He mentioned that generally they might spend years never arresting a spy. Or the spy may go on spying their whole life. He said there's a fine line. And typically we just let them be. He said, China, and Russia, do the same thing. Or else it will just erupt into chaos.

He always said to never take military news too seriously, or politics for that matter.
That sounds like something someone in intelligence would want you to believe.

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FortuneCookie
08/11/23 12:12:25 AM
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They should plead the Trump defense. "I'm unapologetically guilty of all crimes, but you should let me off with no penalty whatsoever."
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nexigrams
08/11/23 12:17:45 AM
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I am sure China will release a statement about how very, very mad they are that the US arrested these people and how it's such a slap in the face and blah blah blah. Just like they do every time. Poke poke poke and then get all indignant when called out for it.

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divot1338
08/11/23 6:57:06 AM
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eggcorn posted...
That sounds like something someone in intelligence would want you to believe.
That sounds like something someone who wants you to believe theyre in intelligience wants you to believe.

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PrettyBoyFloyd
08/11/23 7:06:30 AM
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Huge security breach.

Doesn't the military keep tabs on people anymore?

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Lordgold666
08/11/23 7:28:42 AM
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Soft on china

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