Current Events > Speaker phone in public? Yay or nay?

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To be fair, Ive only used my speaker phone while on hold for a long time and dont feel like holding it up to my ear anymore.

Just depends but if it's truly in public like walking down the street then idc bc what's the difference between that or someone just talking to another person in-person?

If it's done in a place where no silence or privacy is expected, like a grocery store, fast food joint, etc., then there's no problem with it.

If it's done in a smaller, more silent atmosphere, such as a waiting room at a doctor's office, then you should probably be considerate of those around you.

I'm convinced that people that use speaker phones in public are only doing so because they see speaker phones used that that way on (mostly reality) TV so that the camera can hear the audio, and they just assume that that's how phones are meant to be used.

I have no idea why you would.

Put that away, you oblivious clown.

I actively pay attention to people who use speaker phone in public, let them know I am hearing the whole thing. When they get uppity, I tell them maybe not use the speaker phone in public.

Can't stand people who make their phone conversations public.

Nay.

008Zulu posted...

I actively pay attention to people who use speaker phone in public, let them know I am hearing the whole thing. When they get uppity, I tell them maybe not use the speaker phone in public.

Shit, join the conversation next time.

I'm normal, why would I use speakerphone?

asdf8562 posted...

Can't stand people who make their phone conversations public.

Antifar posted...

I'm normal, why would I use speakerphone?

Reactions like this are so weird to me. Speakerphone conversations are no different than if the person was right there actively speaking to the person, anyway. Is it because people naturally assume telephone conversations are more private, for some reason?

Their phone should fall into a puddle and then be run over by a bus.

Kurt_Russel posted...

To be fair, Ive only used my speaker phone while on hold for a long time and dont feel like holding it up to my ear anymore.

The only acceptable instance, especially if it's work-related.

Hate it.

I could understand hating it if it's a naturally more quiet atmosphere, but then you'd logically hate two people having a loud conversation in such a place, anyway. It's just weird to me because somebody having a conversation on speakerphone is no different than if both people were right there speaking normally, anyway, if you think about it.

StealThisSheen posted...

Reactions like this are so weird to me. Speakerphone conversations are no different than if the person was right there actively speaking to the person, anyway. Is it because people naturally assume telephone conversations are more private, for some reason?

It's not the same at all.

First, speakers tend to amplify voices louder than normal conversations.
Second, if I call you on a telephone, it does not mean I wish to have my conversation with the public.
Third, this one is mostly a continuation of the second..., things said over a phone should not just be assumed one wants what they said on a phone on speaker. As I've noticed some don't even have the common courtesy to inform the person they are talking to they are on speaker.

Telephone conversations are actually more private. They only become not private when a person broadcasts the conversation on speaker, or gives explicit details of the conversation out loud.

asdf8562 posted...

First, speakers tend to amplify voices louder than normal conversations.

This isn't true, typically, unless somebody REALLY had their volume up. Most people don't speak in hushed tones in openly public settings.

asdf8562 posted...

Second, if I call you on a telephone, it does not mean I wish to have my conversation with the public.

This also isn't typically true. Your average person doesn't only call people for private conversations. They call people because... They want to talk to them, and it's obviously easier to call them than traveling to be there in person. Your average phone conversation isn't about anything private at all.

So it seems this does stem from people thinking phone conversations are automatically more private by nature, but your typical phone conversation isn't more private at all, as far as subject matter goes. And when it IS more private, people... Typically don't use speaker phone.

StealThisSheen posted...

This also isn't typically true.

You saying this doesn't make it so.

If I call you on a telephone, it does not mean I wish to have my conversation with the public.

Wanting to talk to someone does not remotely mean they wish the conversation to be on a speaker for others to listen.

asdf8562 posted...

You saying this doesn't make it so.

If I call you on a telephone, it does not mean I wish to have my conversation with the public.

Wanting to talk to someone does not remotely mean they wish the conversation to be on a speaker for others to listen.

That may be true for you, but it's obviously not true in general. If you believe people ONLY call people for private conversations, then... I don't really know what to tell you? That obviously isn't true, especially considering... The large amount of people who use speaker phone, in general, to create this "problem" in the first place.

you can clearly tell when somebody is using speakerphone when youre on the line with them due to the amount of background noise you hear and how "close" their voice sounds, so if people wanted who they are talking to to not use speakerphone they would logically just say so. its not like its some secret that only they know. you can tell.

One of my neighbors would walk up and down the road on speaker phone, having buisiness calls talking loudly. You could pretty much hear everything as it reverbed.

That's some confidentiality.

StealThisSheen posted...

That may be true for you, but it's obviously not true in general. If you believe people ONLY call people for private conversations, then... I don't really know what to tell you? That obviously isn't true.

A statement you can't claim.

Calling someone on a telephone call does not remotely mean that telephone call is being made public on explicit details of the conversation. If you really think all or most phone conversations of you hearing one person talking not on speaker is a person being open to a non private conversation, I dont know really what to tell you either.

One can have a conversation without giving explicit details to outsiders quite easily while still having a conversation with the person you can't hear. This is done quite often, not everyone is giving great details to what the other person is saying.

asdf8562 posted...

A statement you can't claim.

Calling someone on a telephone call does not remotely mean that telephone call is being made public on explicit details of the conversation. If you really think all or most phone conversations of you hearing one person talking not on speaker is a person being open to a non private conversation, I dont know really what to tell you either.

...I mean, yes, I can claim that, based on objective facts. The average reason for a phone call in today's climate is NOT made for private reasons, that is a provable fact. Likewise, as somebody said, you can tell when you're on speaker phone, it's not like it's some unknown thing to you (unless they are purposely trying to hide that fact from you, which cannot be done in a public place). There's also the fact that people openly make phone calls ON speaker phone in public in the first place, indicating they have no intention of making it private. It's not like people only answer calls that way, they also make calls that way.

If somebody is making/having a private call in public, they tend to just... Not use speaker phone, period. This shouldn't be a crazy idea.

StealThisSheen posted...

.I mean, yes, I can claim that, based on objective facts

That isn't an objective fact.

Ive seen people walking while talking on speakerphone but theyre still holding the phone to their mouth when they talk so whats the point

asdf8562 posted...

That isn't an objective fact.

It would help if you actually quoted what you thought isn't a fact, instead of just dismissing everything I said due to your own personal biases. I said "facts," plural. Thus, you need to be specific, if you disagree.

TimeForAction posted...

Ive seen people walking while talking on speakerphone but theyre still holding the phone to their mouth when they talk so whats the point

Not the sharpest tools in the shed.

StealThisSheen posted...

Reactions like this are so weird to me. Speakerphone conversations are no different than if the person was right there actively speaking to the person, anyway. Is it because people naturally assume telephone conversations are more private, for some reason?

Are you serious?

StealThisSheen posted...

If somebody is making/having a private call in public, they tend to just... Not use speaker phone, period. This shouldn't be a crazy idea.

To this you are arguing something I'm not talking about.

First I don't think people hopping on speaker is actually a widespread problem to begin with.

Second, like I said before, not all NON speaker conversation are explicit conversations that outsiders listening to one person speak can get all the details of the conversation. Ultimately keeping the conversation of what they are explicitly talking about, still private.

StealThisSheen posted...

The average reason for a phone call in today's climate is NOT made for private reasons, that is a provable fact

So prove it

dave_is_slick posted...

Are you serious?

...Yes? Explain why you think it's different. If somebody feels they are discussing private information, they don't go on speaker phone. If they're on speaker phone, it's no different than if the person is right there with them. Please explain why you feel otherwise.

StealThisSheen posted...

Reactions like this are so weird to me. Speakerphone conversations are no different than if the person was right there actively speaking to the person, anyway. Is it because people naturally assume telephone conversations are more private, for some reason?

Because they are. There's a reason why you need a warrant to wiretap someone, but not to stand next to them and listen to their conversation with another person.

asdf8562 posted...

First I don't think people hopping on speaker is actually a widespread problem to begin with.

What is with CE and denying things that anyone can confirm by leaving the house?

StealThisSheen posted...

The average reason for a phone call in today's climate is NOT made for private reasons, that is a provable fact.

Then prove it.

StealThisSheen posted...

There's also the fact that people openly make phone calls ON speaker phone in public in the first place, indicating they have no intention of making it private.

There are two people in this situation.

Antifar posted...

So prove it

What I am stating is not an abnormal statement. "People ONLY make phone calls for private reasons" is the abnormal statement. Thus, the burden of proof is on those people, not me.

StealThisSheen posted...

that is a provable fact

StealThisSheen posted...

What I am stating is not an abnormal statement. "People ONLY make phone calls for private reasons" is the abnormal statement. Thus, the burden of proof is on those people, not me.

Oops

harley2280 posted...

Because they are. There's a reason why you need a warrant to wiretap someone, but not to stand next to them and listen to their conversation with another person.

Such a thing applies to phone conversations with a reason to suspect privacy. Considering the fact that you can easily tell if somebody has you on speaker phone in a public space, you no longer have an expectation of privacy. The only way you can't tell if somebody has you on speaker phone is if they are intentionally trying to mislead you, such as being in a private office.

StealThisSheen posted...

...Yes? Explain why you think it's different. If somebody feels they are discussing private information, they don't go on speaker phone. If they're on speaker phone, it's no different than if the person is right there with them. Please explain why you feel otherwise.

Who the fuck are you to decide for the person on the other end that their private conversation should be public? People HAVE explained this to you and all you've done is come up with unproveable bullshit in response. So why don't YOU explain how these "facts" aren't instead alternative facts? But we know you never will so save us all the time and fucking dip.

TimeForAction posted...

Ive seen people walking while talking on speakerphone but theyre still holding the phone to their mouth when they talk so whats the point

They pretty much all do that. It's like they want a phone call but to make sure everyone hears it. Maybe they like one-on-one conversations, but hate that people don't yell loudly when they're face-to-face.

I understand Republicans better than I understand speakerphone people. A totally foreign view of the world.

i think the biggest mistake somebody is making in this topic is assuming your average ce user (me included) has any idea how normal people function out in public

there is a reason a lot of us are posting on gamefaqs.com on a saturday afternoon/evening

My life is great if I can brag about it in public that's even better for me

I'm not allowed to walk and talk with phone to my ear at work so speakerphone it is <_< Depending on who you run across they get antsy if you walk and talk on speakerphone too because they have way too much fucking time in their day.

None of my phone conversations are ever remotely private or explicit enough to warrant total privacy anyways.

Ultimately it depends on the situation if I use speakerphone.

ITT

Most people: Speaker phones are annoying in public.
Speaker phone in public users: Well actually....

In my experience it's annoying. 90% of the time they have their phone at max volume. Yes, I'd be annoyed about 2 people doing the same in person, but that wasn't what op asked.

Ferroseed posted...

i think the biggest mistake somebody is making in this topic is assuming your average ce user (me included) has any idea how normal people function out in public

there is a reason a lot of us are posting on gamefaqs.com on a saturday afternoon/evening

It takes less than a few minutes at most to hop on your phone and post something.

It shouldn't take you or anyone a bunch of time to make a post on gamefaqs.

My phone is fucked up in the sense that I can barely hear anything even at maxed volume in calls. So I either hafta have my airpods connected (which also gets fucky if they aren't connected before the call starts/comes in) or just put it on speaker, which functions normally. A couple weeks ago I had to make a call while I was at the grocery store and I felt like an idiot having to put it on speaker in public. I also felt like an idiot cuz I kept thinking the call wasn't going through when I didn't hear it ringing until I remembered that my phone was screwy.

So many fucking people do this. Almost always women too. WHY???

hockeybub89 posted...

They pretty much all do that. It's like they want a phone call but to make sure everyone hears it. Maybe they like one-on-one conversations, but hate that people don't yell loudly when they're face-to-face.

This also tends to be the case

people using speakerphone in public is trashy af