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Heartomaton 08/03/23 8:30:09 AM #51:	https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/3/8/AAcI8BAAEuFa.jpg --- https://www.youtube.com/user/Heartomaton Heartomaton for President 2028. <cite>Heartomaton posted [p:975225723] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/3/8/AAcI8BAAEuFa.jpg </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 08/03/23 8:31:27 AM #52:	shnangyboos posted... Using correct terminology is important, sometimes. The times it's not important, it's a failing on your part for expecting it. My favourite example is people misspelling (or rather misunderstanding) youre and your. No matter how commonly people mix them up, it doesnt suddenly become correct. It just means more people are wrong. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:975225736] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>shnangyboos posted... </cite><quote>Using correct terminology is important, sometimes. The times it's not important, it's a failing on your part for expecting it.</quote>My favourite example is people misspelling (or rather misunderstanding) youre and your. No matter how commonly people mix them up, it doesnt suddenly become correct. It just means more people are wrong. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArtiRock 08/03/23 8:43:31 AM #53:	Dark_Arbron posted... Absolutely, thats fair. I just think in this case its better to fight against the misuse of a term rather than accept its lost meaning. Not that you were doing that necessarily, thats just what I was getting at. And I understand what you mean, but it's something that skirts dangerous territories. IE, people will generally roll their eyes if someone says that they have ADHD symptoms because of how rampant it was in the 90s which leads several people that ARE ADHD to be ignored or just shrug it off and become upset when they can't "figure out why they are lazy" or "can't concentrate." --- This is the duty of the Grim Angels. <cite>ArtiRock posted [p:975225891] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>Dark_Arbron posted... </cite><quote>Absolutely, thats fair. I just think in this case its better to fight against the misuse of a term rather than accept its lost meaning. Not that you were doing that necessarily, thats just what I was getting at.</quote>And I understand what you mean, but it's something that skirts dangerous territories. IE, people will generally roll their eyes if someone says that they have ADHD symptoms because of how rampant it was in the 90s which leads several people that ARE ADHD to be ignored or just shrug it off and become upset when they can't "figure out why they are lazy" or "can't concentrate." </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 08/03/23 8:43:34 AM #54:	ArtiRock posted... Maybe you are. But I sincerely doubt it for Ace. In this case, I don't think it's quite the same. Your race isn't something that you're diagnosed with. Some mental problems are behavioral ones versus ones that you're born with, so mental problems are considerably more complicated than "calling someone racist." Maybe it's because I have dealt with people that actually have mental issues, so it DOES stick out to me when people will misuse terms that bother me, or say there's something wrong with them mentally when they have no basis for it. IE, Bipolar disorder runs in my family, so it's often something that I'm sensitive to when people misuse it. You don't think it's possible that those "behavioral problems" exist due to "mental problems?" --- All posters and events depicted in this post are entirely fictitious. Any similarity to actual events or posters, living or dead, is purely coincidental. <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:975225893] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>ArtiRock posted... </cite><quote>Maybe you are. But I sincerely doubt it for Ace. In this case, I don't think it's quite the same. Your race isn't something that you're diagnosed with. Some mental problems are behavioral ones versus ones that you're born with, so mental problems are considerably more complicated than "calling someone racist." Maybe it's because I have dealt with people that actually have mental issues, so it DOES stick out to me when people will misuse terms that bother me, or say there's something wrong with them mentally when they have no basis for it. IE, Bipolar disorder runs in my family, so it's often something that I'm sensitive to when people misuse it.</quote>You don't think it's possible that those "behavioral problems" exist due to "mental problems?" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArtiRock 08/03/23 8:46:26 AM #55:	IfGodCouldDie posted... You don't think it's possible that those "behavioral problems" exist due to "mental problems?" ???? --- This is the duty of the Grim Angels. <cite>ArtiRock posted [p:975225923] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>IfGodCouldDie posted... </cite><quote>You don't think it's possible that those "behavioral problems" exist due to "mental problems?"</quote>???? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dark_Arbron 08/03/23 8:48:06 AM #56:	ArtiRock posted... And I understand what you mean, but it's something that skirts dangerous territories. IE, people will generally roll their eyes if someone says that they have ADHD symptoms because of how rampant it was in the 90s which leads several people that ARE ADHD to be ignored or just shrug it off and become upset when they can't "figure out why they are lazy" or "can't concentrate." Which is why Im glad mental health is losing its stigma and people are being encouraged to seek professional help. --- "The US is not a single country. It is ~20 developed countries being held hostage by ~25 developing countries and ~5 failed states." -Calintares <cite>Dark_Arbron posted [p:975225946] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>ArtiRock posted... </cite><quote>And I understand what you mean, but it's something that skirts dangerous territories. IE, people will generally roll their eyes if someone says that they have ADHD symptoms because of how rampant it was in the 90s which leads several people that ARE ADHD to be ignored or just shrug it off and become upset when they can't "figure out why they are lazy" or "can't concentrate."</quote>Which is why Im glad mental health is losing its stigma and people are being encouraged to seek professional help. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 08/03/23 8:48:52 AM #57:	ArtiRock posted... ???? Maybe I'm misunderstanding your line here... Some mental problems are behavioral ones versus ones that you're born with, --- All posters and events depicted in this post are entirely fictitious. Any similarity to actual events or posters, living or dead, is purely coincidental. <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:975225954] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>ArtiRock posted... </cite><quote>????</quote>Maybe I'm misunderstanding your line here...<quote>Some mental problems are behavioral ones versus ones that you're born with,</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MisterPengy 08/03/23 8:49:01 AM #58:	Imagine minimizing a mental health term because some people on the internet act like it applies to them when it doesn't. This is like back in the day when every rando who couldn't talk to a girl said they had Asperger's. It's a real mental disorder (I know it's no longer called that), and it doesn't stop being a real thing just because some people on the internet mislabel themselves. --- Bosses are immune to the eat command so it won't be possible to end the final boss fight of the game by eating it. -VeghEsther <cite>MisterPengy posted [p:975225958] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>Imagine minimizing a mental health term because some people on the internet act like it applies to them when it doesn't.This is like back in the day when every rando who couldn't talk to a girl said they had Asperger's. It's a real mental disorder (I know it's no longer called that), and it doesn't stop being a real thing just because some people on the internet mislabel themselves. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 08/03/23 8:50:15 AM #59:	MisterPengy posted... Imagine minimizing a mental health term because some people on the internet act like it applies to them when it doesn't. thats what ppl like TC want to do thoe they want to devalue the meaning of terms its a right wing tactic that they love to use --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:975225972] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>MisterPengy posted... </cite><quote>Imagine minimizing a mental health term because some people on the internet act like it applies to them when it doesn't.</quote>thats what ppl like TC want to do thoe they want to devalue the meaning of termsits a right wing tactic that they love to use </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys 08/03/23 8:50:23 AM #60:	Dark_Arbron posted... Which is why Im glad mental health is losing its stigma and people are being encouraged to seek professional help. Cant believe it was during WW1 where if people got tramatized by the brutality of trench warfare, they were determined to be "weak willed" by medical professionals. --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:975225974] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>Dark_Arbron posted... </cite><quote>Which is why Im glad mental health is losing its stigma and people are being encouraged to seek professional help.</quote>Cant believe it was during WW1 where if people got tramatized by the brutality of trench warfare, they were determined to be "weak willed" by medical professionals. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArtiRock 08/03/23 8:50:25 AM #61:	Dark_Arbron posted... Which is why Im glad mental health is losing its stigma and people are being encouraged to seek professional help. I agree. I went eventually, and it was relieving to know that I had problems but nothing diagnosable-- was worried when I first went because I was recommended to go to a psychiatrist for manic tendencies-- but I was apparently just really stressed at the time I went. IfGodCouldDie posted... Maybe I'm misunderstanding your line here... You just radically misread that. --- This is the duty of the Grim Angels. <cite>ArtiRock posted [p:975225975] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>Dark_Arbron posted... </cite><quote>Which is why Im glad mental health is losing its stigma and people are being encouraged to seek professional help.</quote>I agree. I went eventually, and it was relieving to know that I had problems but nothing diagnosable-- was worried when I first went because I was recommended to go to a psychiatrist for manic tendencies-- but I was apparently just really stressed at the time I went.IfGodCouldDie posted... </cite><quote>Maybe I'm misunderstanding your line here...</quote>You just radically misread that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tenlaar 08/03/23 8:50:33 AM #62:	MisterPengy posted... it doesn't stop being a real thing just because some people on the internet mislabel themselves. Literally nobody has said that. <cite>Tenlaar posted [p:975225981] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>MisterPengy posted... </cite> <quote>it doesn't stop being a real thing just because some people on the internet mislabel themselves.</quote> Literally nobody has said that. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bsp77 08/03/23 8:52:27 AM #63:	MisterPengy posted... Imagine minimizing a mental health term because some people on the internet act like it applies to them when it doesn't. This is like back in the day when every rando who couldn't talk to a girl said they had Asperger's. It's a real mental disorder (I know it's no longer called that), and it doesn't stop being a real thing just because some people on the internet mislabel themselves. And some of us with Asperger's DO know how to talk to girls, which made that kind of insulting. But I guess I have to say I just have Autism now, but when I was diagnosed it was still called Asperger's --- Currently playing: taking a gaming break after Final Fantasy XVI sucked the life out of me <cite>bsp77 posted [p:975226003] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>MisterPengy posted... </cite><quote>Imagine minimizing a mental health term because some people on the internet act like it applies to them when it doesn't.This is like back in the day when every rando who couldn't talk to a girl said they had Asperger's. It's a real mental disorder (I know it's no longer called that), and it doesn't stop being a real thing just because some people on the internet mislabel themselves.</quote>And some of us with Asperger's DO know how to talk to girls, which made that kind of insulting.But I guess I have to say I just have Autism now, but when I was diagnosed it was still called Asperger's </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys 08/03/23 8:52:36 AM #64:	MisterPengy posted... Imagine minimizing a mental health term because some people on the internet act like it applies to them when it doesn't. This is like back in the day when every rando who couldn't talk to a girl said they had Asperger's. It's a real mental disorder (I know it's no longer called that), and it doesn't stop being a real thing just because some people on the internet mislabel themselves. I dont think they were saying it stops being a thing. I think the point is to just call out the people misusing the words. Someone bringing this up just brings attention to that. Its the people misusing the word who are doing the minimizing. --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:975226004] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>MisterPengy posted... </cite><quote>Imagine minimizing a mental health term because some people on the internet act like it applies to them when it doesn't.This is like back in the day when every rando who couldn't talk to a girl said they had Asperger's. It's a real mental disorder (I know it's no longer called that), and it doesn't stop being a real thing just because some people on the internet mislabel themselves.</quote>I dont think they were saying it stops being a thing.I think the point is to just call out the people misusing the words. Someone bringing this up just brings attention to that. Its the people misusing the word who are doing the minimizing. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 08/03/23 8:54:00 AM #65:	deoxxys posted... I dont think they were saying it stops being a thing. I think the point is to just call out the people misusing the words. Someone bringing this up just brings attention to that. Its the people misusing the word who are doing the minimizing. you really think TC an alt account with 7 posts was being genuine and honest --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:975226027] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>deoxxys posted... </cite><quote>I dont think they were saying it stops being a thing.I think the point is to just call out the people misusing the words. Someone bringing this up just brings attention to that. Its the people misusing the word who are doing the minimizing.</quote>you really think TC an alt account with 7 posts was being genuine and honest </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys 08/03/23 8:55:02 AM #66:	AceMos posted... you really think TC an alt account with 7 posts was being genuine and honest I dont think it matters if what they say is true --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:975226044] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>AceMos posted... </cite><quote>you really think TC an alt account with 7 posts was being genuine and honest</quote>I dont think it matters if what they say is true </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArtiRock 08/03/23 8:56:29 AM #67:	deoxxys posted... I dont think it matters if what they say is true This. I feel like some people are talking about this in the wrong way. And almost in ways I can't entirely comprehend as they are inserting their own thoughts that were not expressed and then getting upset about their own thoughts. --- This is the duty of the Grim Angels. <cite>ArtiRock posted [p:975226058] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>deoxxys posted... </cite><quote>I dont think it matters if what they say is true</quote>This. I feel like some people are talking about this in the wrong way. And almost in ways I can't entirely comprehend as they are inserting their own thoughts that were not expressed and then getting upset about their own thoughts. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 08/03/23 8:56:34 AM #68:	deoxxys posted... I dont think it matters if what they say is true ok so prove its happening to any meaningful degree --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:975226060] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>deoxxys posted... </cite><quote>I dont think it matters if what they say is true</quote>ok so prove its happening to any meaningful degree </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 08/03/23 8:59:20 AM #69:	ArtiRock posted... You just radically misread that. Alright fair enough, I don't get what you were saying there then. --- All posters and events depicted in this post are entirely fictitious. Any similarity to actual events or posters, living or dead, is purely coincidental. <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:975226099] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>ArtiRock posted... </cite><quote>You just radically misread that.</quote>Alright fair enough, I don't get what you were saying there then. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
justaguy3492 08/03/23 9:04:29 AM #70:	https://youtube.com/shorts/KHy0Dm5t0Z4?feature=share --- Gt: justaguy3492 <cite>justaguy3492 posted [p:975226170] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>https://youtube.com/shorts/KHy0Dm5t0Z4?feature=share </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jerry_Hellyeah 08/03/23 9:04:58 AM #71:	MildlyIrkedOwl posted... Now explain why every person who has some mild form of forgetfulness or social anxiety is not neurotypical So are you shittalking your friends or talking out your ass? --- This is a cool sig <cite>Jerry_Hellyeah posted [p:975226172] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>MildlyIrkedOwl posted... </cite><quote>Now explain why every person who has some mild form of forgetfulness or social anxiety is not neurotypical</quote>So are you shittalking your friends or talking out your ass? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArtiRock 08/03/23 9:08:38 AM #72:	IfGodCouldDie posted... Alright fair enough, I don't get what you were saying there then. In psychology, without going to far into details and simplifying this, when you have a mental disorder, they are generally put into: 1) You're born with it. 2) You aren't born with it, but it's an issue that cropped up from nurture rather than nature. Some disorders like bipolar (BPD and not to be confused with Borderline Personality Disorder) are considered things that you are born with. No matter how much you go to therapy, you can't "recover" from it. Versus something like PTSD is something that happens as a result of an event that occurred. Both should be mental disorders, but they aren't exactly the same. While there are theories that you cannot actually recover from PTSD, treatment can help you to make the problem dormant. Such is not the case with something like being bipolar. You can't make it become dormant. All you can do is learn to recognize the symptoms personally and learn how to handle it, plus taking potentially medications to stabilize yourself. I've come to simply treat mental disorders in the same vein as physical disorders really-- and it's how we should. You wouldn't make fun of a guy that lost his arm from a construction accident (or at least you shouldn't), and I don't think a person that was born disfigured without an arm should be made fun of either, but they might have the same complications when trying to perform tasks. --- This is the duty of the Grim Angels. <cite>ArtiRock posted [p:975226224] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>IfGodCouldDie posted... </cite><quote>Alright fair enough, I don't get what you were saying there then.</quote>In psychology, without going to far into details and simplifying this, when you have a mental disorder, they are generally put into: 1) You're born with it. 2) You aren't born with it, but it's an issue that cropped up from nurture rather than nature. Some disorders like bipolar (BPD and not to be confused with Borderline Personality Disorder) are considered things that you are born with. No matter how much you go to therapy, you can't "recover" from it. Versus something like PTSD is something that happens as a result of an event that occurred. Both should be mental disorders, but they aren't exactly the same. While there are theories that you cannot actually recover from PTSD, treatment can help you to make the problem dormant. Such is not the case with something like being bipolar. You can't make it become dormant. All you can do is learn to recognize the symptoms personally and learn how to handle it, plus taking potentially medications to stabilize yourself. I've come to simply treat mental disorders in the same vein as physical disorders really-- and it's how we should. You wouldn't make fun of a guy that lost his arm from a construction accident (or at least you shouldn't), and I don't think a person that was born disfigured without an arm should be made fun of either, but they might have the same complications when trying to perform tasks. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 08/03/23 9:10:05 AM #73:	ArtiRock posted... 1) You're born with it. 2) You aren't born with it, but it's an issue that cropped up from nurture rather than nature. Ok, I know about this and this context makes your whole post have a completely different light. Sorry about the confusion on my part. As for the rest of the post I quoted that from, I'd argue treating two people with mental illness the same(in the sense that you respect they suffer and don't necessarily have control over it at all times) is fine. Obviously there is a lot of variations when it comes to mental illness(two people could have the same diagnosis and still handle it wildly differently.) --- All posters and events depicted in this post are entirely fictitious. Any similarity to actual events or posters, living or dead, is purely coincidental. <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:975226246] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>ArtiRock posted... </cite><quote>1) You're born with it.2) You aren't born with it, but it's an issue that cropped up from nurture rather than nature.</quote>Ok, I know about this and this context makes your whole post have a completely different light. Sorry about the confusion on my part. As for the rest of the post I quoted that from, I'd argue treating two people with mental illness the same(in the sense that you respect they suffer and don't necessarily have control over it at all times) is fine. Obviously there is a lot of variations when it comes to mental illness(two people could have the same diagnosis and still handle it wildly differently.) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
deoxxys 08/03/23 9:22:22 AM #74:	AceMos posted... ok so prove its happening to any meaningful degree Heres a news story about it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vryN8FzBjXs --- twylite sprinkle http://tinyurl.com/jeqyas3 https://tinyurl.com/mgvx7h2 <cite>deoxxys posted [p:975226401] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>AceMos posted... </cite><quote>ok so prove its happening to any meaningful degree</quote>Heres a news story about ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vryN8FzBjXs </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AceMos 08/03/23 9:26:34 AM #75:	ok thank you then yes those ppl who are doing that are fucked up and should be called out --- 3 things 1. i am female 2. i havea msucle probelm its hard for me to typ well 3.does her janpuu dance <cite>AceMos posted [p:975226457] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>ok thank you then yes those ppl who are doing that are fucked up and should be called out </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CoyoteTheGreat 08/03/23 1:41:28 PM #77:	MildlyIrkedOwl posted... My dude go on social media. Log off. Touch grass. --- Disobedience is the stamp of the hero. -Ragnar Redbeard Also, this is Kagata.. <cite>CoyoteTheGreat posted [p:975230781] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>MildlyIrkedOwl posted... </cite><quote>My dude go on social media.</quote>Log off. Touch grass. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 08/03/23 1:46:47 PM #78:	My wife now thinks she has adhd and is neurodivergent since starting to get into TikTok. I do think there's a lot of truth to the issues TikTok algorithmic cycles getting people "stuck" in communities about different disorders, and with only self reflection and a whole lot of suggestion through TikTok, it's easy to get it confused. Unfortunately the placebo effect is very strong. I guess it's not really placebo, but presumably similar mechanisms. They have a name for this kind of think "1st year med student disorder". Same issue. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:975230877] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>My wife now thinks she has adhd and is neurodivergent since starting to get into TikTok. I do think there's a lot of truth to the issues TikTok algorithmic cycles getting people "stuck" in communities about different disorders, and with only self reflection and a whole lot of suggestion through TikTok, it's easy to get it confused. Unfortunately the placebo effect is very strong. I guess it's not really placebo, but presumably similar mechanisms. They have a name for this kind of think "1st year med student disorder". Same issue. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IfGodCouldDie 08/03/23 1:48:30 PM #79:	COVxy posted... My wife now thinks she has adhd and neurodivergent since starting to get into TikTok. I do think there's a lot of truth to the issues TikTok algorithmic cycles getting people "stuck" in communities about different disorders, and with only self reflection and a whole lot of suggestiom through TikTok, it's easy to get it confused. Unfortunately the placebo effect is very strong. Honestly a lot of mental health issues can have varying degrees of similar symptoms. --- All posters and events depicted in this post are entirely fictitious. Any similarity to actual events or posters, living or dead, is purely coincidental. <cite>IfGodCouldDie posted [p:975230912] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite><quote>My wife now thinks she has adhd and neurodivergent since starting to get into TikTok. I do think there's a lot of truth to the issues TikTok algorithmic cycles getting people "stuck" in communities about different disorders, and with only self reflection and a whole lot of suggestiom through TikTok, it's easy to get it confused. Unfortunately the placebo effect is very strong.</quote>Honestly a lot of mental health issues can have varying degrees of similar symptoms. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FolkenRawr 08/03/23 2:21:49 PM #80:	Safe to assume TC still hasn't said how or why it affects them? --- Cookin like a chef, I'm a 5 Star Michelin <cite>FolkenRawr posted [p:975231532] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>Safe to assume TC still hasn't said how or why it affects them? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DementedDurian 08/03/23 2:42:01 PM #81:	Heartomaton posted... https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/3/8/AAcI8BAAEuFa.jpg Who ends up making all these "bait" images? I'm totes curious. --- (She/Her) I'm a succubus. Don't worry, I'm not going to hurt you. <3 Video Game IGN: Mystic. Ask me for a joke, I come up with some good ones. <cite>DementedDurian posted [p:975231926] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>Heartomaton posted... </cite><quote>https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/3/8/AAcI8BAAEuFa.jpg</quote>Who ends up making all these "bait" images? I'm totes curious. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 08/03/23 2:45:53 PM #82:	deoxxys posted... I am diagnosed as on the spectrum and I dont feel shit talked. If everyone starts calling themselves neurodivergent then the word loses meaning. I am diagnosed as on the spectrum and I definitely don't think anyone should give a damn what you say Are you the one who hates that so many people on the spectrum don't feel ashamed of it? Or was that someone else? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:975231994] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>deoxxys posted... </cite><quote>I am diagnosed as on the spectrum and I dont feel shit talked.If everyone starts calling themselves neurodivergent then the word loses meaning.</quote>I am diagnosed as on the spectrum and I definitely don't think anyone should give a damn what you sayAre you the one who hates that so many people on the spectrum don't feel ashamed of it? Or was that someone else? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wanderingshade 08/03/23 3:00:29 PM #83:	COVxy posted... My wife now thinks she has adhd and is neurodivergent since starting to get into TikTok. I do think there's a lot of truth to the issues TikTok algorithmic cycles getting people "stuck" in communities about different disorders, and with only self reflection and a whole lot of suggestion through TikTok, it's easy to get it confused. Unfortunately the placebo effect is very strong. I guess it's not really placebo, but presumably similar mechanisms. They have a name for this kind of think "1st year med student disorder". Same issue. The thing about ADHD is it has elements across its spectrum that are things normal people experience. Except it's a chronic, 4 or 5 times a week type of thing. But sometimes social media makes memes about dumb shit that are barely related like "Do you ever hate making appointments?" and the tumblr user is named like JustADHDThings, and other people are like "OMG SAME MAYBE I HAVE ADHD". ADHD is can be a ton of things at once. Being unable to finish task or keep to a specific order, hating loud noises like screaming or slamming, ignoring or procrastinating basic tasks like showering/brushing your teeth/folding laundry, a dislike of being excluded or rejected, feeling like your body is being driven by a motor, impulsivity, forgetfulness. --- "You're made of spare parts, aren't ya, bud?" <cite>wanderingshade posted [p:975232288] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite><quote>My wife now thinks she has adhd and is neurodivergent since starting to get into TikTok. I do think there's a lot of truth to the issues TikTok algorithmic cycles getting people "stuck" in communities about different disorders, and with only self reflection and a whole lot of suggestion through TikTok, it's easy to get it confused. Unfortunately the placebo effect is very strong. I guess it's not really placebo, but presumably similar mechanisms. They have a name for this kind of think "1st year med student disorder". Same issue.</quote>The thing about ADHD is it has elements across its spectrum that are things normal people experience. Except it's a chronic, 4 or 5 times a week type of thing. But sometimes social media makes memes about dumb shit that are barely related like "Do you ever hate making appointments?" and the tumblr user is named like JustADHDThings, and other people are like "OMG SAME MAYBE I HAVE ADHD". ADHD is can be a ton of things at once. Being unable to finish task or keep to a specific order, hating loud noises like screaming or slamming, ignoring or procrastinating basic tasks like showering/brushing your teeth/folding laundry, a dislike of being excluded or rejected, feeling like your body is being driven by a motor, impulsivity, forgetfulness. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 08/03/23 3:10:55 PM #84:	COVxy posted... My wife now thinks she has adhd and is neurodivergent since starting to get into TikTok. I do think there's a lot of truth to the issues TikTok algorithmic cycles getting people "stuck" in communities about different disorders, and with only self reflection and a whole lot of suggestion through TikTok, it's easy to get it confused. Unfortunately the placebo effect is very strong. I guess it's not really placebo, but presumably similar mechanisms. Isn't this the same kind of argument the right makes about why we need to ban TikTok and why everything against the norm is just a fad of impressionable children and idiots? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png he/him/they/them <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:975232474] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>COVxy posted... </cite><quote>My wife now thinks she has adhd and is neurodivergent since starting to get into TikTok. I do think there's a lot of truth to the issues TikTok algorithmic cycles getting people "stuck" in communities about different disorders, and with only self reflection and a whole lot of suggestion through TikTok, it's easy to get it confused. Unfortunately the placebo effect is very strong. I guess it's not really placebo, but presumably similar mechanisms.</quote>Isn't this the same kind of argument the right makes about why we need to ban TikTok and why everything against the norm is just a fad of impressionable children and idiots? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 08/03/23 3:13:07 PM #85:	hockeybub89 posted... Isn't this the same kind of argument the right makes about why we need to ban TikTok and why everything against the norm is just a fad of impressionable children and idiots? The best kind of disengenuous argument is one which is true in some contexts, but not others. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:975232517] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite><quote>Isn't this the same kind of argument the right makes about why we need to ban TikTok and why everything against the norm is just a fad of impressionable children and idiots?</quote>The best kind of disengenuous argument is one which is true in some contexts, but not others. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 08/03/23 4:19:05 PM #86:	To be clear, there was a very well documented outbreak of induced/fictitious tourette's syndrome due to TikTok. It's pretty clear this is happening now. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:975233695] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>To be clear, there was a very well documented outbreak of induced/fictitious tourette's syndrome due to TikTok. It's pretty clear this is happening now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DnDer 08/03/23 7:31:02 PM #87:	Derwood posted... It is very difficult to parse out the students with actual diagnoses from those who throw out "BAD MENTAL HEALTH DAY" as a get out of jail free card for everything. You shouldn't need a diagnosis to be able to take a mental health day. That should be a thing for everyone. --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:975237084] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>Derwood posted... </cite><quote>It is very difficult to parse out the students with actual diagnoses from those who throw out "BAD MENTAL HEALTH DAY" as a get out of jail free card for everything.</quote>You shouldn't need a diagnosis to be able to take a mental health day.That should be a thing for everyone. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 08/03/23 7:32:35 PM #88:	Dark_Arbron posted... Which is why Im glad mental health is losing its stigma and people are being encouraged to seek professional help. Step 2: figure out how to ensure people can afford to seek professional help during end-stage capitalism --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:975237112] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>Dark_Arbron posted... </cite><quote>Which is why Im glad mental health is losing its stigma and people are being encouraged to seek professional help.</quote>Step 2: figure out how to ensure people can afford to seek professional help during end-stage capitalism </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gremlynn 08/03/23 7:39:14 PM #89:	MildlyIrkedOwl posted... Answer the "who is actually neurotypical and what does that even mean" question first. Most people. That's what makes it "Typical". Their neuroreceptors function and behave in a way that is common among the "typical" person. As for widespread use of the term, it has much less stigma and invites much less invasive questioning than telling people you're autistic or ADHD, and helps band together ADHD and autistic people that share many comorbidities. It's also not THAT frequently used. If you are hearing it a lot it's probably because you spend a lot of time in places or communities that appeal to people with ADHD or Autism. Places like an outdated forum on a dying blue game website for example. --- "Now, was that civilized? No, clearly not. Fun, but in no sense civilized." <cite>Gremlynn posted [p:975237211] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>MildlyIrkedOwl posted... </cite><quote>Answer the "who is actually neurotypical and what does that even mean" question first.</quote>Most people.That's what makes it "Typical". Their neuroreceptors function and behave in a way that is common among the "typical" person. As for widespread use of the term, it has much less stigma and invites much less invasive questioning than telling people you're autistic or ADHD, and helps band together ADHD and autistic people that share many comorbidities.It's also not THAT frequently used. If you are hearing it a lot it's probably because you spend a lot of time in places or communities that appeal to people with ADHD or Autism. Places like an outdated forum on a dying blue game website for example. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Derwood 08/03/23 7:48:50 PM #90:	DnDer posted... You shouldn't need a diagnosis to be able to take a mental health day. That should be a thing for everyone. Sure, but mental health is like physical health. Are you having a "mild headache" mental health day, a "sprained ankle" mental health day, or a "gunshot wound" mental health day? Those require different treatment. When people treat EVERYTHING like it's a gunshot wound, it's hard to tell when they're in an actual crisis --- Living in fear's just another way of dying before your time <cite>Derwood posted [p:975237355] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>You shouldn't need a diagnosis to be able to take a mental health day.That should be a thing for everyone.</quote>Sure, but mental health is like physical health. Are you having a "mild headache" mental health day, a "sprained ankle" mental health day, or a "gunshot wound" mental health day? Those require different treatment. When people treat EVERYTHING like it's a gunshot wound, it's hard to tell when they're in an actual crisis </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DnDer 08/03/23 7:53:12 PM #91:	Derwood posted... Sure, but mental health is like physical health. Are you having a "mild headache" mental health day, a "sprained ankle" mental health day, or a "gunshot wound" mental health day? Those require different treatment. When people treat EVERYTHING like it's a gunshot wound, it's hard to tell when they're in an actual crisis A mental health day doesn't have to be "in crisis." You wake up feeling shitty because you ate bad food the night before and going to work would be a nightmare? "Hey boss, I'm sick today." Nobody blinks, and it just comes off your PTO (if you've got any). Why shouldn't someone be able to take a "mild headache" mental health day? --- What has books ever teached us? -- Captain Afrohead Subject-verb agreement. -- t3h 0n3 <cite>DnDer posted [p:975237427] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>Derwood posted... </cite><quote>Sure, but mental health is like physical health. Are you having a "mild headache" mental health day, a "sprained ankle" mental health day, or a "gunshot wound" mental health day? Those require different treatment. When people treat EVERYTHING like it's a gunshot wound, it's hard to tell when they're in an actual crisis</quote>A mental health day doesn't have to be "in crisis."You wake up feeling shitty because you ate bad food the night before and going to work would be a nightmare? "Hey boss, I'm sick today."Nobody blinks, and it just comes off your PTO (if you've got any).Why shouldn't someone be able to take a "mild headache" mental health day? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AP3Brain 08/03/23 7:56:34 PM #92:	Autism and ADHD are also meaningless terms in my mind. <cite>AP3Brain posted [p:975237482] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>Autism and ADHD are also meaningless terms in my mind.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gremlynn 08/03/23 7:57:44 PM #93:	AP3Brain posted... Autism and ADHD are also meaningless terms in my mind. That's because you don't know shit. --- "Now, was that civilized? No, clearly not. Fun, but in no sense civilized." <cite>Gremlynn posted [p:975237497] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>AP3Brain posted... </cite><quote>Autism and ADHD are also meaningless terms in my mind.</quote>That's because you don't know shit. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 08/03/23 7:59:14 PM #94:	AP3Brain posted... Autism and ADHD are also meaningless terms in my mind. NOW That's What I Call A Shit-Take 56 --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:975237531] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>AP3Brain posted... </cite><quote>Autism and ADHD are also meaningless terms in my mind.</quote>NOW That's What I Call A Shit-Take 56 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
haloiscoolisbak 08/03/23 8:05:08 PM #95:	I've been diagnosed with schizophrenia and noticed nobody ever claims one that for clout lol The "sexy" ones online are ADHD and Bipolar --- Started from the bottom now we here <cite>haloiscoolisbak posted [p:975237625] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>I've been diagnosed with schizophrenia and noticed nobody ever claims one that for clout lolThe "sexy" ones online are ADHD and Bipolar </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wanderingshade 08/03/23 8:06:51 PM #96:	ADHD is not sexy. --- "You're made of spare parts, aren't ya, bud?" <cite>wanderingshade posted [p:975237647] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>ADHD is not sexy. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Derwood 08/03/23 8:09:42 PM #98:	DnDer posted... A mental health day doesn't have to be "in crisis." You wake up feeling shitty because you ate bad food the night before and going to work would be a nightmare? "Hey boss, I'm sick today." Nobody blinks, and it just comes off your PTO (if you've got any). Why shouldn't someone be able to take a "mild headache" mental health day? I agree, it doesn't have to be a crisis. I'm saying that there are some students for whom there is no "mild headache" mental health day. EVERYTHING is a "gunshot wound". --- Living in fear's just another way of dying before your time <cite>Derwood posted [p:975237693] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>DnDer posted... </cite><quote>A mental health day doesn't have to be "in crisis."You wake up feeling shitty because you ate bad food the night before and going to work would be a nightmare? "Hey boss, I'm sick today."Nobody blinks, and it just comes off your PTO (if you've got any).Why shouldn't someone be able to take a "mild headache" mental health day?</quote>I agree, it doesn't have to be a crisis. I'm saying that there are some students for whom there is no "mild headache" mental health day. EVERYTHING is a "gunshot wound". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
haloiscoolisbak 08/03/23 8:15:46 PM #99:	wanderingshade posted... ADHD is not sexy. I meant like in vogue. And the amount of memes and reels I see about it on my Instagram, well I think it is. I can't even imagine someone making a cute tiktok about having schizophrenia --- Started from the bottom now we here <cite>haloiscoolisbak posted [p:975237787] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote>wanderingshade posted... </cite><quote>ADHD is not sexy.</quote>I meant like in vogue. And the amount of memes and reels I see about it on my Instagram, well I think it is. I can't even imagine someone making a cute tiktok about having schizophrenia </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UndefeatedGOAT 08/03/23 8:16:58 PM #100:	tcs right, im sure i got a few screws loose, but i dont want your meme words that will be outdated in 4 years <cite>UndefeatedGOAT posted [p:975237808] in "Neurodive... [t:80526650]...</cite> <quote> tcs right, im sure i got a few screws loose, but i dont want your meme words that will be outdated in 4 years</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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