Current Events > Do works that were created to incite shock value still have artistic merit?

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Solid_Sonic 06/29/23 6:25:08 PM #1:	(topic) Yes No (topic) - Results (40 votes) Yes 87.5% (35 votes) 35 No 12.5% (5 votes) 5 Thoughts? --- Surely if I stick up for rich people on the Internet I'll eventually get a sweet job offer from them, right? <cite>Solid_Sonic posted [p:974515385] in Do works t... [t:80494124]...</cite> <quote> (topic) Yes No Vote View Results (topic) - Results (40 votes) Yes 87.5% (35 votes) 35 No 12.5% (5 votes) 5 Show Voting Form function poll_vote() { var vote_option = $("input[name='poll_vote']:checked").val(); if(!vote_option) return; $.ajax({ type: 'POST', url: '/ajax/forum_poll_vote', data: { option: vote_option, board: '400', topic: '80494124', message: '0', key: '56bffd16' }, success: function(response) { if(response.error) { alert(response.error); } else { $("#poll_vote").hide(); $("#poll_results").html(response.html).show(); } } }); } function view_results_legacy() { $("#poll_vote").hide(); $("#poll_results").show(); } function hide_results_legacy() { $("#poll_results").hide(); $("#poll_vote").show(); } Thoughts? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TMOG 06/29/23 6:26:06 PM #2:	I feel like some examples are needed here, or at the very least an explanation of what you specifically mean by "incite shock value", because that can be very subjective from person to person depending on what they find shocking <cite>TMOG posted [p:974515411] in Do works t... [t:80494124]...</cite> <quote>I feel like some examples are needed here, or at the very least an explanation of what you specifically mean by "incite shock value", because that can be very subjective from person to person depending on what they find shocking</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil_Bit83 06/29/23 6:27:13 PM #3:	Of course they do. That's as silly as asking if works meant to incite romance, or laughter still have artistic merit. --- But I'd trade all my tomorrows, for a single yesterday <cite>Lil_Bit83 posted [p:974515436] in Do works t... [t:80494124]...</cite> <quote>Of course they do. That's as silly as asking if works meant to incite romance, or laughter still have artistic merit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DrizztLink 06/29/23 6:28:09 PM #4:	A Modest Proposal --- He/Him http://guidesmedia.ign.com/guides/9846/images/slowpoke.gif https://i.imgur.com/M8h2ATe.png https://i.imgur.com/6ezFwG1.png <cite>DrizztLink posted [p:974515454] in Do works t... [t:80494124]...</cite> <quote>A Modest Proposal</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Lil_Bit83 06/29/23 6:36:12 PM #6:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] That too --- But I'd trade all my tomorrows, for a single yesterday <cite>Lil_Bit83 posted [p:974515628] in Do works t... [t:80494124]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> That too</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drunk_Cobra 06/29/23 6:38:20 PM #7:	Let's all watch Sal, or the 120 Days of Sodom tonight then report back! --- I don't want to be a snuff film reviewer. I want my hobbies to be farming, coin collecting, and reading. - farmer88 <cite>Drunk_Cobra posted [p:974515668] in Do works t... [t:80494124]...</cite> <quote>Let's all watch Sal, or the 120 Days of Sodom tonight then report back!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 06/29/23 6:39:47 PM #8:	TMOG posted... I feel like some examples are needed here, or at the very least an explanation of what you specifically mean by "incite shock value", because that can be very subjective from person to person depending on what they find shocking what any individual person finds shocking has no bearing on whether or not the work they are observing was created specifically to incite shock value --- http://error1355.com/ce/averagejoel.html "Athens needed Socrates and this board needs averagejoel." -Godnorgosh <cite>averagejoel posted [p:974515703] in Do works t... [t:80494124]...</cite> <quote>TMOG posted... </cite><quote>I feel like some examples are needed here, or at the very least an explanation of what you specifically mean by "incite shock value", because that can be very subjective from person to person depending on what they find shocking</quote>what any individual person finds shocking has no bearing on whether or not the work they are observing was created specifically to incite shock value</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil_Bit83 06/29/23 6:43:51 PM #9:	Drunk_Cobra posted... Let's all watch Sal, or the 120 Days of Sodom tonight then report back! No thanks. Those movies don't look interesting to me. --- But I'd trade all my tomorrows, for a single yesterday <cite>Lil_Bit83 posted [p:974515802] in Do works t... [t:80494124]...</cite> <quote>Drunk_Cobra posted... </cite><quote>Let's all watch Sal, or the 120 Days of Sodom tonight then report back!</quote>No thanks. Those movies don't look interesting to me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid_Sonic 06/29/23 7:26:55 PM #10:	TMOG posted... I feel like some examples are needed here, or at the very least an explanation of what you specifically mean by "incite shock value", because that can be very subjective from person to person depending on what they find shocking You can usually tell. It's just edginess and offensive content, trying to disgust and abhor the audience. --- Surely if I stick up for rich people on the Internet I'll eventually get a sweet job offer from them, right? <cite>Solid_Sonic posted [p:974516803] in Do works t... [t:80494124]...</cite> <quote>TMOG posted... </cite><quote>I feel like some examples are needed here, or at the very least an explanation of what you specifically mean by "incite shock value", because that can be very subjective from person to person depending on what they find shocking</quote>You can usually tell. It's just edginess and offensive content, trying to disgust and abhor the audience.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hexa 06/29/23 7:52:46 PM #11:	https://www.npr.org/2019/01/17/686199231/mcjesus-sculpture-to-be-pulled-from-israeli-museum-after-violent-protests <cite>hexa posted [p:974517387] in Do works t... [t:80494124]...</cite> <quote>https://www.npr.org/2019/01/17/686199231/mcjesus-sculpture-to-be-pulled-from-israeli-museum-after-violent-protests</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil_Bit83 06/29/23 8:11:37 PM #12:	hexa posted... https://www.npr.org/2019/01/17/686199231/mcjesus-sculpture-to-be-pulled-from-israeli-museum-after-violent-protests * Snorts * All aboard for the McRapture --- But I'd trade all my tomorrows, for a single yesterday <cite>Lil_Bit83 posted [p:974517745] in Do works t... [t:80494124]...</cite> <quote>hexa posted... </cite><quote>https://www.npr.org/2019/01/17/686199231/mcjesus-sculpture-to-be-pulled-from-israeli-museum-after-violent-protests</quote>* Snorts * All aboard for the McRapture</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Requiem 06/29/23 8:12:46 PM #13:	....remember the blender goldfish? --- Copyright free literature available at http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page... otherwise known as Tex-Mex <cite>Requiem posted [p:974517770] in Do works t... [t:80494124]...</cite> <quote>....remember the blender goldfish?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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BettyWhite 06/29/23 8:18:32 PM #15:	I feel like I would have to judge each individual work. This stuff could range from gutter trash to emotionally moving depending on the message and delivery. --- Thank you for being a friend <3 <cite>BettyWhite posted [p:974517881] in Do works t... [t:80494124]...</cite> <quote>I feel like I would have to judge each individual work. This stuff could range from gutter trash to emotionally moving depending on the message and delivery. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BettyWhite 06/29/23 8:19:46 PM #16:	[LFAQs-redacted-quote] Hopefully someone filmed the audience beating the shit out of him for a sequel of a sorts. --- Thank you for being a friend <3 <cite>BettyWhite posted [p:974517896] in Do works t... [t:80494124]...</cite> <quote><cite>[LFAQs-redacted-quote]</cite> Hopefully someone filmed the audience beating the shit out of him for a sequel of a sorts. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheSavageDragon 06/29/23 8:24:46 PM #17:	I don't see why not. Making characters do shocking things put in there purely for the shock factor still requires actors to actually sell the moment. And that's not even mentioning score, effects, stunts, screen composition, lighting,... EDIT: Misread, thought it was solely about movies and shows. But that still applies to other media and their facets. Comics require artists, a novel requires a competent writer, a painting a competent painter,.... <cite>TheSavageDragon posted [p:974518000] in Do works t... [t:80494124]...</cite> <quote>I don't see why not. Making characters do shocking things put in there purely for the shock factor still requires actors to actually sell the moment. And that's not even mentioning score, effects, stunts, screen composition, lighting,...EDIT: Misread, thought it was solely about movies and shows. But that still applies to other media and their facets. Comics require artists, a novel requires a competent writer, a painting a competent painter,....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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