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VeggetaX
06/29/23 10:49:11 AM
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He's talking about Circle of the Moon initially
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/9/6/AAAHH2AAEnNs.png

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Questionmarktarius
06/29/23 10:50:38 AM
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yeah, and?
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ArtiRock
06/29/23 10:51:02 AM
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How so?

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VeggetaX
06/29/23 10:51:54 AM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
yeah, and?
It's not a ripoff. There are more differences than similarities between the game.

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voldothegr8
06/29/23 10:54:04 AM
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No lies detected

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SaikyoStyle
06/29/23 10:54:55 AM
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What did you call us?

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MC_BatCommander
06/29/23 10:54:59 AM
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I wouldn't call it a ripoff, more like "heavily influenced"

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VeggetaX
06/29/23 10:56:49 AM
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voldothegr8 posted...
No lies detected
I didn't know Super Metroid was an ARPG.

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Murphiroth
06/29/23 10:56:59 AM
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It's definitely heavily inspired by it.
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HudGard
06/29/23 10:57:15 AM
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Ripoff is too negative of a connotation but yeah, it clearly is inspired by the gameplay and directly copies that, and the map system.

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Hayame_Zero
06/29/23 10:59:07 AM
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It copied the formula, not really a ripoff.

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EmbraceOfDeath
06/29/23 10:59:14 AM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
I wouldn't call it a ripoff, more like "heavily influenced"
I wouldn't even say heavily. The core gameplay of find upgrade -> open new path is from Super Metroid, but practically everything else is very different and set its own standard which became the metroidvania genre.

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GranAures
06/29/23 10:59:37 AM
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Both share similar gameplay loops: explore the content you have to get new upgrades to unlock new areas as well as enable back tracking for more power ups. It's kind of why they got portmanteaud.

But
MC_BatCommander posted...
I wouldn't call it a ripoff, more like "heavily influenced"


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VeggetaX
06/29/23 11:01:22 AM
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I dunno about yall but the battle mechanics is a completely different dynamic for me. One is literally a shooters while the other is a melee hack and slash.

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DirkDiggles
06/29/23 11:02:33 AM
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They are called Metroidvanias for a reason......

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voldothegr8
06/29/23 11:04:10 AM
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VeggetaX posted...
I didn't know Super Metroid was an ARPG.
It's not, and neither is SotN.

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VeggetaX
06/29/23 11:08:07 AM
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voldothegr8 posted...
It's not, and neither is SotN.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castlevania:_Symphony_of_the_Night
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/0/7/AAAHH2AAEnN3.png

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SilvosForever
06/29/23 11:18:16 AM
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Every thing is a rip-off of what came before.

All stories rip-off Beowulf.

Who gives a fuck.

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DirkDiggles
06/29/23 11:25:15 AM
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VeggetaX posted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castlevania:_Symphony_of_the_Night
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/2/0/7/AAAHH2AAEnN3.png

Wikipedia. Also, if SotN is a RPG, so are the Yakusa games.

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VeggetaX
06/29/23 11:41:12 AM
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DirkDiggles posted...
Wikipedia
You say that as if it's not credible LOL.

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GranAures
06/29/23 11:44:34 AM
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Pretty sure most Yakuza games have a skill advancement and unlock system that generally functions on gaining experience to get unlock points.

Also: Like a Dragon.
SotN directly has experience points and level ups.

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DirkDiggles
06/29/23 8:46:07 PM
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GranAures posted...
Pretty sure most Yakuza games have a skill advancement and unlock system that generally functions on gaining experience to get unlock points.

Also: Like a Dragon.
SotN directly has experience points and level ups.

Still doesn't make it an RPG.

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DirkDiggles
06/29/23 8:50:29 PM
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VeggetaX posted...
You say that as if it's not credible LOL.

It's not when anybody can edit it.

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VeggetaX
06/29/23 8:51:30 PM
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Go make them edits then

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CE_gonna_CE
06/29/23 8:52:49 PM
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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/0/7/AAb05zAAEnUH.jpg

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06/29/23 8:55:17 PM
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Nosferatu_Zodd
06/29/23 9:04:28 PM
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SotN is overrated. It's the least enjoyable of the Metroidvanias. And less enjoyable than most of the Classicvanias as well.

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VeggetaX
06/29/23 9:23:04 PM
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Nosferatu_Zodd posted...
SotN is overrated. It's the least enjoyable of the Metroidvanias. And less enjoyable than most of the Classicvanias as well.
Wtf y'all see this shit

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Carljank
06/29/23 9:25:10 PM
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Simon's Quest was a metroidvania before symphony of the night. It was released in the USA thr same month as the original metroid.

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MabusIncarnate
06/29/23 9:26:54 PM
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Carljank posted...
Simon's Quest was a metroidvania before symphony of the night. It was released in the USA thr same month as the original metroid.
I was gonna say it's closer to Simon's Quest than Metroid imo.

But it's Metroidvania, a combination of both games, universally to describe the genre, so it's safe to say both pioneered it in their own ways.

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PMarth2002
06/29/23 9:26:59 PM
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DirkDiggles posted...
They are called Metroidvanias for a reason......


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CE_gonna_CE
06/29/23 9:27:04 PM
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VeggetaX posted...
Wtf y'all see this shit
Ban that user

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GranAures
06/29/23 9:34:44 PM
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DirkDiggles posted...
Still doesn't make it an RPG.
Describe an rpg then. I typically consider gaining experience and leveling up the bare minimum.

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DirkDiggles
06/29/23 9:43:04 PM
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GranAures posted...
Describe an rpg then. I typically consider gaining experience and leveling up the bare minimum.

If that's the case, some CoD games are RPG's. You level up by gaining experience afterall.

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GranAures
06/29/23 9:45:17 PM
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GranAures posted...
Describe an rpg then.


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SauI_Goodman
06/29/23 9:45:21 PM
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i don't remember much about super metroid as i haven't played it since it came out but i don't remember it being like sotn.

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DirkDiggles
06/29/23 10:04:53 PM
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GranAures posted...
Describe an rpg then.

It's hard to do now. Almost every game now has some sort of level up mechanic and technically, every game under the sun is an rpg. CoD has them, Yakuza games have them, even some puzzle games have them.

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GranAures
06/29/23 10:09:36 PM
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DirkDiggles posted...
It's hard to do now. Almost every game now has some sort of level up mechanic and technically, every game under the sun is an rpg. CoD has them, Yakuza games have them, even some puzzle games have them.
Then extrapolate. SotN has built in level ups, these influence your stats directly allowing am increase in damage dealt, decrease in damage taken, increase in hp and mp, has obtainable equipment which also effects stats, consumable items to recover hp, mp, or attack enemies or modify stats. The only common rpg element it misses is giving abilities on level up.

I probably went super narrow initially but outside of a level being little more than a player rank that is generally the minimum, and SotN for one goes well beyond that minimum.

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VeggetaX
06/29/23 10:10:55 PM
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Imagine spending your time trying to disprove sotn isn't an RPG

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GranAures
06/29/23 10:14:15 PM
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VeggetaX posted...
Imagine spending your time trying to disprove sotn isn't an RPG
I mean, imagine spending your time doing anything on gamefaqs.

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VeggetaX
06/30/23 8:12:18 AM
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SauI_Goodman posted...
i don't remember much about super metroid as i haven't played it since it came out but i don't remember it being like sotn.
They only things they have in common is their backtracking exploration map style, beat a boss and retrieve an item to gain access to new places and they're 2D platformers. Other than that they're very much different. Combat is different, atmosphere and environment is different. One is literal an ARPG and the other is not.

People try to commonize these two games too much. Take away SotN's RPG elements and it wouldn't come close to being the cult game that it is.

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godofwar596
06/30/23 8:44:23 AM
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DirkDiggles posted...
Wikipedia. Also, if SotN is a RPG, so are the Yakusa games.
The Yakuza games are RPGs lmao, you do know Action RPG is a literal genre right? It has stats, levels, gear you can obtain that increases stats with rarities with the best ones requiring lots of grinding, a skill tree, etc

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