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Hope is the worst character in video game history.

Thr FFXIII series did battles right. Basing rewards off of efficiency while being healed after each battle worked.

They finally made debuffs useful and bosses not immune to most of them either. The XIII series was the start of them getting rid of bosses being immune to every debuff.

Regardless, I enjoyed the FFXIII games more than most of the other games in the series.

ironman2009 posted...

Hope is the worst character in video game history.

Half of Star Ocean 4's are worse

13 fucking blew. 13-2 was better

Final Fantasy 13s combat at the very least was influential to Octopath 1s combat system which is what Final Fantasy should be using right now. I'm a bigger fan of Turn-based combat than action combat. I'll eventually play 16, but its stuck on the PS5 and I don't want to shell out 700 CAD for a system I'll only use once, as I have a RTX 2070 Super computer so not super powerful but strong enough to play most games on medium-high settings.

To be honest, I'm on my computer more often than on a console so I'd much rather just reinvest into that.

It was very Mid in terms of JRPG's as a whole. For FF that is pretty bad.

I really liked Lightning. The way she flaunted her armpits really ignited my fetish.

dave_is_slick posted...

Are you sure about that? The lack of good world building is a huge reason its called a hallway simulator.

Ah sorry I should clarify, by world-building I more meant the background of the history/lore/characters/creatures/environments than the physical space you explore.

that game sucks

Anything after 6 is trash.

For what, it's a bad game I will likely never play again

Darkinsanity1 posted...

This. It's one of my favorites. People have bad opinions regarding this game.

the first game is good its the sequels that ruin it

Pitbuller_26 posted...

Thr FFXIII series did battles right. Basing rewards off of efficiency while being healed after each battle worked.

They finally made debuffs useful and bosses not immune to most of them either. The XIII series was the start of them getting rid of bosses being immune to every debuff.

Regardless, I enjoyed the FFXIII games more than most of the other games in the series.

Most of the bosses in FF5 can have some kind of debuff. Some of them become a complete joke when debuffed.

Its objectively not a bad game. Its polished, plays well, has decent production value, is complete, etc. When people say its terrible I assume they mean theres an aspect of it I didnt like, so Ill blow it out of proportion. A truly bad game is something like Gollum.

I always defended FF13. It was never as bad as people say. Not as good as FF10, but tbh not many games are

FF15 and FF16 are abominations though. Square-Anus should be ashamed about what they've let their flagship franchise become. Bonus points for taking Sony's timed exclusivity money, like they're some tiny indie dev that has zero faith in their own game

I wish the Super Mario RPG remake would outsell FF16 so that they feel like idiots for hating turn-based gameplay

No. 13 is a complete piece of shit. 13-2 is a polished piece of shit. LR is the only respectable one

13 felt like a tutorial until the end of the game.

FF13 was so fucking bad I let my dog eat the disc

name_unknown posted...

No taking over 20 hours to get good is bullshit.

People who pretended the game got good because it opened up so instead of doing nothing but walking forward and fight, you walk around in a big area and fight are exteremely weird. In fact, I don't believe that's an opinion anyone actually holds. It's literally just something some king duck said one time and for some reason it gets repeated ad nauseum like it's some sort of Aesop fable.

TheDurinator posted...

I've never faulted 13 for the hallway thing, 10 is a hallway and it's my favorite. 13 has mediocre gameplay and a bad story, I dump on it for those.

10 had good hallways that are enforced through its narrative.

13 has awful hallways that actively work against the narrative conceit of the game.

i still haven't played it im sorry

DQ is just so friggin dorky and derpy though.

For some reason it takes extremely animu stuff in jrpgs to make me roll my eyes as hard as DQ does. I dont think it needs to be edgy-er or anything, the entire vibe just turns me off and I think its the same for a lot of people.

I agree in theory though, and I bought 11 twice since they put a lot of work into that, and I liked being able to play it on switch and mess around with the 2D glitches.

BurmesePenguin posted...

People who pretended the game got good because it opened up so instead of doing nothing but walking forward and fight, you walk around in a big area and fight are exteremely weird. In fact, I don't believe that's an opinion anyone actually holds. It's literally just something some king duck said one time and for some reason it gets repeated ad nauseum like it's some sort of Aesop fable.

Yep. 13 never gets good

BurmesePenguin posted...

People who pretended the game got good because it opened up so instead of doing nothing but walking forward and fight, you walk around in a big area and fight are exteremely weird. In fact, I don't believe that's an opinion anyone actually holds. It's literally just something some king duck said one time and for some reason it gets repeated ad nauseum like it's some sort of Aesop fable.

It also didn't really open up. It has like 1 open map that's got several exits but all those exits lead to more hallways. You can backtrack, which is nice, but the only reason to do this is for ceiths.

FFXIII was a true hallway game. FFX was not a hallway game since you could go back to almost any area in the game.

Monolith1676 posted...

FFXIII was a true hallway game. FFX was not a hallway game since you could go back to almost any area in the game.

What hallway have you ever been down that you aren't allowed to walk back the other way in it!? That's a people mover if you aren't supposed to walk the other way, not a hallway. FFX is a hallway game, and FF13 is a people mover game.

I can't believe people even thought FF13 is a 4/10 game or higher when it's a -69/10 game

FF13 gets massively overrated and FF15 gets underrated. Real shame

Nope, its still shit. The only good game out of that shitty trilogy was XIII-2.

XIII was shit and Lightning returns has a fucking timer. A TIMER.

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