Current Events > If some guy you don't know is hostile towards you and starts hitting you..

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...what else can you realistically do in that situation besides start hitting them back? Saw 2 youtube videos recently that had a lot of views where both were in fender benders , one in l.a. and one if nyc. And both times they would not hit back and were pummeled. With almost all the commentators stating that they had no choice but to hit back at their assailants , but they did not

besides fighting back, you can run away or put yourself in a defensive position (like turtling).

those options don't sound good, but they can keep you from getting hurt or killed.

boxoto posted...

besides fighting back, you can run away or put yourself in a defensive position (like turtling).

those options don't sound good, but they can keep you from getting hurt or killed.

This, people on the street might think you're a coward but you will survive and that all that matters.

mach25687 posted...

This, people on the street might think you're a coward but you will survive and that all that matters.

you personally would do this instead of hitting back?

Grappling martial arts are good for this reason.

If someone hits me, and I hit them, we are in a fight. If I take them to the ground and subdue them until the authorities come around, it's obvious who the perpetrator is.

As with anything, you need to manage their hands and be mindful of the guy who is going to stab you with a screw driver, but you don't want to be in a boxing match with that character either.

boxoto posted...

besides fighting back, you can run away or put yourself in a defensive position (like turtling).

those options don't sound good, but they can keep you from getting hurt or killed.

I mean, running is a good idea, but what exactly do you mean by "turtling"? Because no, that is not a good idea and will not protect you.

WarfireX posted...

Grappling martial arts are good for this reason.

If someone hits me, and I hit them, we are in a fight. If I take them to the ground and subdue them until the authorities come around, it's obvious who the perpetrator is.

As with anything, you need to manage their hands and be mindful of the guy who is going to stab you with a screw driver, but you don't want to be in a boxing match with that character either.

This. I have an okay ground game, but an exceptional 'will fight dirty af' /'fighting fair is fighting to lose' mentality.

WarfireX posted...

I mean, running is a good idea, but what exactly do you mean by "turtling"? Because no, that is not a good idea and will not protect you.

I forget what you call it, but when you put your hands at the back of your neck, lie down, and try to be in a ball-like position to protect what parts of your body you can.

and for that, it would be in a situation where you couldn't run, like if someone knocked you down.

boxoto posted...

I forget what you call it, but when you put your hands at the back of your neck, lie down, and try to be in a ball-like position to protect what parts of your body you can.

and for that, it would be in a situation where you couldn't run, like if someone knocked you down.

Yes, that's a bad idea. They're going to stomp you in the spine and back of your head. If they knock you down, get back to your feet as soon as possible and start running again. Also stop listening to whoever told you this.

"Turtle" IS a position in Jiu-Jitsu and it's like you described but it only works in a Jiu-Jitsu match where people aren't actually trying to hurt each other.

boxoto posted...

I forget what you call it, but when you put your hands at the back of your neck, lie down, and try to be in a ball-like position to protect what parts of your body you can.

and for that, it would be in a situation where you couldn't run, like if someone knocked you down.

The fetal position...

WarfireX posted...

Yes, that's a bad idea. They're going to stomp you in the spine and back of your head.

ye, i kinda agree. Many people are just terrible and start ratcheting it up the minute they see you won't fight back

If someone hits you you should absolutely punch them the way Luffy punched that Celestial Dragon

I'm at an age where fist fights are well behind me. Which is why my pal Walther Matthua rides with me.

Thud posted...

I'm at an age where fist fights are well behind me. Which is why my pal Walther Matthua rides with me.

Did you make a club out of his bones

If you don't have to fight, don't. If you have no choice, fight like your life depends on it, (because people are batshit, and you have no idea what they might try and do).

GranTurismo posted...

you personally would do this instead of hitting back?

Block and dodge, yes, hit only if I know I can KO them or knock them down long enough for cops to come. Start a brawl, no cause that disturbing the peace, so get ready for some jail time.

WarfireX posted...

Yes, that's a bad idea. They're going to stomp you in the spine and back of your head. If they knock you down, get back to your feet as soon as possible and start running again. Also stop listening to whoever told you this.

"Turtle" IS a position in Jiu-Jitsu and it's like you described but it only works in a Jiu-Jitsu match where people aren't actually trying to hurt each other.

true.

I guess I haven't seen too many fights, because if there was a case where one of the people was just defending and didn't come off as a threat, the other person would eventually ease up on them, from my experience, so I was going off of that.

but yea, if the person really meant you harm, I could see how vulnerable that can leave you.

FolkenRawr posted...

The fetal position...

thanks

Fighting back is a good way to get hurt if you don't know what you're doing. It should be a last resort unless you know how to fight, then you can just kick his ass. Unless he knows how to fight better, then run bitch, run!

If they start hitting, assume they'll go as far as murder.

respond accordingly

Vote fight back if someone is aiming to beat your ass

Even if you're gonna lose, make them work for it.

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True. I remember one incident I was involved in high school. Some dude rolled up to me, forget why. His kid was crying and he tried starting shit even though I was a pedestrian. I just walked away and he yelled "that's what I thought", I imagine he would've still kicked my ass though since he was an adult man even if he didn't know how to fight. I didn't get hurt that day, if I had started talking smack, maybe I would've got hurt. But I had the choice to remove myself from the situation and the dude didn't follow me in his car.

boxoto posted...

besides fighting back, you can run away or put yourself in a defensive position (like turtling).

those options don't sound good, but they can keep you from getting hurt or killed.

Running away is good if you can. I wouldn't be sure you could if they were already hitting you. Turtling sounds like what the person in video did. It's a bad strategy in general. You're counting on their stamina to run out. It's better to make them stop.

Thats why i carry a gun.

Always carry some type of weapon.

I bought my wife bear mace for those scenarios. I am still waiting to get to see it in action though.
And I have my sig saur

the problem with fighting back is you never know when it will become a 2v1 or worse

Just say hit me harder daddy and moan loudly
That usually stops the fight

rodu_jr posted...

the problem with fighting back is you never know when it will become a 2v1 or worse

The solution to this is to beat the ass of the first person as fast as you can so it still stays one on one but just turns into a queue

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I think youre probably right. Anecdotal, I know, but Ive been attacked by strangers quite a few times (used to live on a rough estate) and its never been by people who actually have any idea how to fight.