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BignutzisBack
06/17/23 3:03:55 PM
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Is he the next Hidetaka Miyazaki where he's so talented that his company makes him the man on top? I'm not into MMO's so I've only heard about it, but the fact that a mainline game (16) apparently has outstanding writing and voice acting is stunning considering how low SE lowered the bar over the years


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Irony
06/17/23 3:04:26 PM
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He's very talented at jingling keys in front of people so they're distracted from massive other issues

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SSJKirby
06/17/23 3:06:02 PM
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Yoshi-P was on the board of directors but stepped down because it was taking time away from working on the games

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Error1355
06/17/23 3:07:59 PM
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Irony posted...
He's very talented at jingling keys in front of people so they're distracted from massive other issues

I mean I very much love what I've played of FF14 so far, so if that's just because he's 'distracting me from the massive other issues' in the game, then sure why not.

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Irony
06/17/23 3:08:57 PM
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Error1355 posted...
I mean I very much love what I've played of FF14 so far, so if that's just because he's 'distracting me from the massive other issues' in the game, then sure why not.
The problem is I'm not Chris Griffin so the jingling doesn't work.

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BakonBitz
06/17/23 3:10:52 PM
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Irony posted...
He's very talented at jingling keys in front of people so they're distracted from massive other issues
What's the other issues?

If it's anything like "it's not turn-based" then that's a design decision that you don't like, not an actual issue with the game.

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Irony
06/17/23 3:12:05 PM
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The awful housing system he straight up refuses to fix for starters. Even shitty Runescape did it better.

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BakonBitz
06/17/23 3:12:40 PM
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Irony posted...
The awful housing system he straight up refuses to fix for starters. Even shitty Runescape did it better.
Oh that. I thought you were talking about XVI, my bad.

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Irony
06/17/23 3:13:36 PM
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XVI isn't out yet so his actual influence in it remains to be seen.

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Error1355
06/17/23 3:14:37 PM
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Irony posted...
The problem is I'm not Chris Griffin so the jingling doesn't work.

Oh I misunderstood, you weren't looking to have an actual discussion on this, you just want to insult people for liking things you don't like.

I'll carry on then, have a nice day.

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Xenogears15
06/17/23 3:18:19 PM
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SSJKirby posted...
Yoshi-P was on the board of directors but stepped down because it was taking time away from working on the games

This sums the guy up to a T. He just loves making video games. He has also kept a close pulse on the FF fanbase since taking over FFXIV, so he has a decent idea just what's wrong with the series.

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Rai_Jin
06/17/23 3:20:30 PM
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I have played like 0.1 % of 14 but the story at that point is just not understandable, some army I don't know, some crystal, some magic girl. Oh but first I have to find 5 guys who are dozing off at work.

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Irony
06/17/23 3:20:57 PM
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Rai_Jin posted...
I have played like 0.1 % of 14 but the story at that point is just not understandable, some army I don't know, some crystal, some magic girl. Oh but first I have to find 5 guys who are dozing off at work.
So basically you played the tutorial

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Xenogears15
06/17/23 3:22:43 PM
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Rai_Jin posted...
I have played like 0.1 % of 14 but the story at that point is just not understandable, some army I don't know, some crystal, some magic girl. Oh but first I have to find 5 guys who are dozing off at work.

The story is perfectly understandable, and is probably the best in MMOs. Definitely stands up to other RPGs, too. FFXIV is just a damn good game.

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SSJKirby
06/17/23 3:23:58 PM
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FF14 is front loaded with a crap ton of world building because it's trying to be a brand new start while also sunsetting anything to do with 1.0

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YoungMutual
06/17/23 3:24:20 PM
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Xenogears15 posted...
This sums the guy up to a T. He just loves making video games. He has also kept a close pulse on the FF fanbase since taking over FFXIV, so he has a decent idea just what's wrong with the series.
Then why the fuck did he turn the one franchise that's the staple of JRPGs, into a character action game.

Okay, if the game is good, then it's good, but you could at least see how it being nothing like the FF games people love and grew up with, would piss off some

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Xenogears15
06/17/23 3:26:34 PM
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Then why the fuck did he turn the one franchise that's the staple of JRPGs, into a character action game.

Okay, if the game is good, then it's good, but you could at least see how it being nothing like the FF games people love and grew up with, would piss off some

Why the fuck not? The series has been trending in the action RPG direction since pretty much XII, this just completes the transition. The fact of the matter is, the team (not just Yoshi P) realized that they need to bring more fans into the franchise, so they saw a more action-oriented game as the way to go. I remember one of the earlier interviews with him he stated something like this.

SE isn't doing as well as you might think. They need a big hit, and they may have one on their hands here.

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Error1355
06/17/23 3:31:00 PM
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Rai_Jin posted...
I have played like 0.1 % of 14 but the story at that point is just not understandable, some army I don't know, some crystal, some magic girl. Oh but first I have to find 5 guys who are dozing off at work.

This is like complaining you don't understand a book after reading the first paragraph of the first page.

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YoungMutual
06/17/23 3:31:05 PM
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Xenogears15 posted...
Why the fuck not? The series has been trending in the action RPG direction since pretty much XII, this just completes the transition. The fact of the matter is, the team (not just Yoshi P) realized that they need to bring more fans into the franchise, so they saw a more action-oriented game as the way to go. I remember one of the earlier interviews with him he stated something like this.

SE isn't doing as well as you might think. They need a big hit, and they may have one on their hands here.

YoungMutual posted...


Okay, if the game is good, then it's good, but you could at least see how it being nothing like the FF games people love and grew up with, would piss off some


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Xenogears15
06/17/23 3:36:28 PM
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@YoungMutual

I'm not debating that. I imagine that this is a jarring transition for some: in my own case I grew up with the series since FFII/IV so I get the feeling. I suppose you could say I'm just more open to change.

I was simply answering the question you posed to the best of my ability.

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Error1355
06/17/23 3:37:00 PM
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I do personally miss turn based Final Fantasy games. FFX is still my favorite.

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Xenogears15
06/17/23 3:41:06 PM
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Error1355 posted...
I do personally miss turn based Final Fantasy games. FFX is still my favorite.

I gotta think they'll make at least one more of those one day. BU3 isn't the only one at SE, and they do know that there are fans who orefer turn-based FFs.

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YoungMutual
06/17/23 3:43:27 PM
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Xenogears15 posted...
@YoungMutual

I'm not debating that. I imagine that this is a jarring transition for some. I was simply answering the question you posed to the best of my ability.
I see, much appreciated.

Well, maybe SE isn't doing as great, but look how fluctuating in quality their are when releasing big games, while their smaller budget products, like the Triangle Strategy, Trials of Mana Remake, Live a Live and Octopath Traveler 2 tier games are often a return to form.

Imagine SE having the balls to release a mainline FF with the same design choices used in those products.

It could work... there's a precedent, they released DQIX as a smaller game, and on the DS of all things. They could also do a smaller scale mainline FF focusing on the stuff that made the classics great in the first place, and it has the potential to succeed financially

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Xenogears15
06/17/23 3:47:03 PM
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I agree, yeah. With those said projects actually showing that a return to classic JRPG form is not just possible, but profitable, it's only a matter of time before we see another turn-based mainline FF, or even a true ATB game (not like FFVIIR, which was IMO still a wonderful take on it).

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BignutzisBack
06/17/23 3:47:51 PM
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Xenogears15 posted...
I agree, yeah. With those said projects actually showing that a return to classic JRPG form is not just possible, but profitable, it's only a matter of time before we see another turn-based mainline FF.

A Xenogears remake would be nice as well

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Irony
06/17/23 3:48:00 PM
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I mean Persona 5 and Dragon Quest 11 are proof that turnbased can still be extremely successful

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Xenogears15
06/17/23 3:50:17 PM
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BignutzisBack posted...
A Xenogears remake would be nice as well

However much I want that, I have resigned myself to that never ever happening.

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SpiritSephiroth
06/17/23 4:02:02 PM
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YoungMutual posted...
Then why the fuck did he turn the one franchise that's the staple of JRPGs, into a character action game.

Okay, if the game is good, then it's good, but you could at least see how it being nothing like the FF games people love and grew up with, would piss off some

Oh here we go again >_>

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dameon_reaper
06/17/23 4:06:36 PM
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YoungMutual posted...
Well, maybe SE isn't doing as great, but look how fluctuating in quality their are when releasing big games, while their smaller budget products, like the Triangle Strategy, Trials of Mana Remake, Live a Live and Octopath Traveler 2 tier games are often a return to form.

Bravely Default is sorta what they wanted to do with "Final Fantasy" returning to the turn based system and it isn't up to 'scratch'. Unless you mean you need a game to be called Final Fantasy for it to be anything which I think is pretty ridiculous.
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Crimsoness
06/17/23 4:21:59 PM
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I don't get Yoshi-P stans dude made one successful game that is mostly a knockoff of wow and they act like he's Kojima

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Xenogears15
06/17/23 4:25:46 PM
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Crimsoness posted...
I don't get Yoshi-P stans dude made one successful game that is mostly a knockoff of wow and they act like he's Kojima

The only way that FFXIV is a knock off of WoW is that they're MMOs. The comparisons end there. If he needs to do more to prove himself to you then fine, give him an open mind on this game. Right now though, he's probably the best thing that SE's got going.

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PowerOats
06/17/23 4:27:08 PM
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We gotta wait till 16 is out to see if his goat status is deserved
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s0nicfan
06/17/23 4:27:35 PM
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Crimsoness posted...
I don't get Yoshi-P stans dude made one successful game that is mostly a knockoff of wow and they act like he's Kojima

You say he made one successful game as if he hasn't been actively pushing out expansions for a literal decade. If it was a fluke the praise would have ended multiple expansions ago.

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SpiritSephiroth
06/17/23 4:31:07 PM
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Crimsoness posted...
I don't get Yoshi-P stans dude made one successful game that is mostly a knockoff of wow and they act like he's Kojima

  • Revamped FF14 1.0 whilst updating it with content
  • Released FF14 2.0
  • Released Heavensward, Stormblood, Shadowbringers and Endwalker, all with critically acclaimed reviews and turning the whole company around.
  • Literally restored faith in SE, enticing millions of players to subscribe to their MMO, rivalling even WoW now
  • Is now a producer of one of the most anticipated games of this generation (FF16), of which has had a massively glowing reception recently in its demo
So no, not just one successful game. The dude has done a shit ton for the company and the community.

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SSJKirby
06/17/23 4:33:35 PM
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FF14 release schedule only got a delay because of COVID, other than that rock solid. Considering mainline FF titles have had completely abysmal release schedules, putting someone who has a really good track record with it gets people excited

Good management can mean a good game

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s0nicfan
06/17/23 4:36:05 PM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
* Revamped FF14 1.0 whilst updating it with content
* Released FF14 2.0
* Released Heavensward, Stormblood, Shadowbringers and Endwalker, all with critically acclaimed reviews and turning the whole company around.
* Literally restored faith in SE, enticing millions of players to subscribe to their MMO, rivalling even WoW now
* Is now a producer of one of the most anticipated games of this generation (FF16), of which has had a massively glowing reception recently in its demo
So no, not just one successful game. The dude has done a shit ton for the company and the community.

And it's not like the team is just Yoshi-P. The lead story writer is critically acclaimed. The composer is critically acclaimed. The combat designer is critically acclaimed. The entire team is like a dream team of the best people squeenix has to offer.

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Touch
06/17/23 4:38:56 PM
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Anyone named Yoshi gets an A in my book


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itachi15243
06/17/23 4:49:59 PM
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Touch posted...
Anyone named Yoshi gets an A in my book

It's a p, not an a

In all seriousness though, not only is he supposed to be amazing, but everyone working on this is supposed to be pretty damn good. This game is gonna show whether or not he can carry all of his success to a mainline final fantasy game

After playing the demo I really think this one is gonna be special.

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dameon_reaper
06/17/23 5:05:09 PM
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Crimsoness posted...
I don't get Yoshi-P stans dude made one successful game that is mostly a knockoff of wow and they act like he's Kojima

FF14 was a complete shitshow and thought to be buried forever and this dude comes out and not only rebuilds it with ARR, he completely kills it with expansion after expansion.

And its nothing like WoW. I've played both and I've only stuck to FFXIV. FFXIV feels like a mainline Final Fantasy game with online services.

16 looks like its going to be great and I have a lot of faith in him since I've been playing FF14 since ARR beta and have been on that journey for a long time.

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Crimsoness
06/17/23 5:07:38 PM
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dameon_reaper posted...
And its nothing like WoW. I've played both
I have too! They're almost identical from UI to gameplay.

I swear people are gaslighting me.

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dameon_reaper
06/17/23 5:08:34 PM
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Crimsoness posted...
I have too! They're almost identical from UI to gameplay.

I swear people are gaslighting me.

because you auto attack and press buttons to use skills?
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Trumble
06/17/23 5:56:19 PM
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Error1355 posted...
I do personally miss turn based Final Fantasy games. FFX is still my favorite.
Holy shit, I agree with Error on something?

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ellis123
06/17/23 5:57:58 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
And it's not like the team is just Yoshi-P. The lead story writer is critically acclaimed. The composer is critically acclaimed. The combat designer is critically acclaimed. The entire team is like a dream team of the best people squeenix has to offer.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/9/4/AAEv3mAAEAca.png

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06/17/23 6:03:53 PM
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ellis123 posted...
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/9/4/AAEv3mAAEAca.png
LMAO

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