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PowerOats
06/15/23 10:05:32 PM
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https://youtu.be/p94qVFjh4Ug

https://youtu.be/3F_8OIY1kgA

https://youtu.be/WKkrRpyBkws

https://youtu.be/0Z_seU8elvk

https://youtu.be/sOPaXm2cEvg
https://youtu.be/yaPHP7F3-Ug

https://youtu.be/0csT8Mf54RE
https://youtu.be/qwrDec55iZ8

https://youtu.be/w5idOEFDIAI

aka the hold right to win game. Nostalgic
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Vayu_The_End
06/15/23 10:06:09 PM
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Didn't people complain about all the bottomless pits in this game?

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Incredible
06/15/23 10:07:09 PM
#4:


Sonic Advance 2 was when Dimps Sonic games went downhill
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PowerOats
06/15/23 10:11:22 PM
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Vayu_The_End posted...
Didn't people complain about all the bottomless pits in this game?


Yup, after the 3rd zone, most cliffs and platforms will drop you to your death
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BlueAnnihilator
06/15/23 10:13:27 PM
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Precursor to the boost era games.

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Stallion_Prime
06/15/23 10:14:32 PM
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Sonic advance 2 was great for what it wanted to be. A less brainless sonic rush

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greenjeans
06/15/23 10:15:56 PM
#8:


These songs seem pretty weak for Sonic
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PowerOats
06/15/23 10:18:55 PM
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greenjeans posted...
These songs seem pretty weak for Sonic


Egg Utopia is the standout

Advance 3 is stronger overall
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Hambo
06/15/23 10:24:14 PM
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Why did you leave out Ice Cap Zone? It's a happy little celebratory tune and the only tune I remember from that game.

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Incredible
06/15/23 10:31:26 PM
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I can see why they switched things up for Advance 2, though. Advance 1 was kinda boring; the physics were spot on, but the game is so fucking plain with nothing really remarkable to it. I mean, don't get me wrong; it was pretty top-tier handheld game at the time, when handheld games were generally inferior to console games. It's better than all previous handheld Sonic games. And it's definitely better than any of Dimps' Sonic games that came after; it's better than Advance 2, Advance 3, Rush, Rush Adventure, Sonic 4, Sonic Generations 3DS, etc without a doubt. But it's inferior to Sonic 2 and Sonic 3K; no reason to really bother with it when you can just play those games instead.

And just look at the levels

  1. Neo Green Hill (poor man's Green Hill. And did they seriously name it Neo Green Hill? LMAO)
  2. Secret Base (poor man's Metropolis Zone. LOL @ the name "Secret Base". Most generic level name ever)
  3. Casino Paradise (generic casino level)
  4. Angel Island (LOL they didn't bother coming up with a new name for this level. Angel Island was the name of Sonic 3's first level. Now it's a poor man's Sky Sanctuary)
  5. Egg Rocket (poor man's Launch Base)
  6. Cosmic Angel Zone (poor man's Death Egg)
Advance 2 had more original levels (how is Music Plant not original lol) and while the increased "hold right to win" was detrimental to the gameplay, the added emphasis on speed at least worked as a novelty even though it didn't have any lasting appeal. Advance 1 is definitely the better game, but it's so average.

With Advance 3, I can see that they tried to strike a balance between speed and platforming, but the team mechanics were lame. And it had some crappy level design. The Rush games are better, but they're just boost to win; novelty games that lose their appeal quickly. Rush Adventure had some crappy boat minigames and forced grinding, too.

Sonic 4 Episode 1 would just be another mediocre Dimps game game by itself, but as a sequel to the Genesis games, it fucking sucks. Not surprising when it was originally gonna be a minor iPhone game called Sonic the Portable before Sega forced Dimps to make it for consoles. Episode 2 is better, but it's just mediocre; same with Sonic Generations 3DS.
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Incredible
06/15/23 10:39:40 PM
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Sonic Pocket Adventure (5/10)
Sonic Advance (6/10)
Sonic Advance 2 (5/10)
Sonic Advance (5/10)
Sonic Rush (5/10)
Sonic Rush Adventure (5/10)
Sonic 4 Episode 1 (4/10)
Sonic Generatinos 3DS (5/10)
Sonic 4 Episode 2 (5/10)

Oh, I forgot about Sonic Lost World 3DS. Now that was trash LOL, Dimps was clearly burnt out on Sonic by the time it came out.
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Vayu_The_End
06/15/23 11:59:59 PM
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Incredible posted...
Sonic Pocket Adventure (5/10)
Sonic Advance (6/10)
Sonic Advance 2 (5/10)
Sonic Advance (5/10)
Sonic Rush (5/10)
Sonic Rush Adventure (5/10)
Sonic 4 Episode 1 (4/10)
Sonic Generatinos 3DS (5/10)
Sonic 4 Episode 2 (5/10)

Oh, I forgot about Sonic Lost World 3DS. Now that was trash LOL, Dimps was clearly burnt out on Sonic by the time it came out.

Which one is Advance 3?

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Incredible
06/16/23 12:01:02 AM
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lol

Sonic Pocket Adventure (5/10)
Sonic Advance (6/10)
Sonic Advance 2 (5/10)
Sonic Advance 3 (5/10)
Sonic Rush (5/10)
Sonic Rush Adventure (5/10)
Sonic 4 Episode 1 (4/10)
Sonic Generatinos 3DS (5/10)
Sonic 4 Episode 2 (5/10)
Sonic Lost World 3DS (4/10)

I wonder if Dimps will ever make another Sonic game
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FortuneCookie
06/16/23 12:04:28 AM
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PowerOats posted...
https://youtu.be/WKkrRpyBkws

This sounds like something out of Super Mario RPG.
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Garlands_Soul
06/16/23 12:11:03 AM
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Honestly I don't think they ever topped pocket adventure, and I don't even really care about pocket adventure

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Incredible
06/16/23 12:11:54 AM
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It was weird how IGN gave Pocket Adventure a literal 10/10 lol wtf
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PowerOats
06/16/23 12:12:01 AM
#18:


Wtf is pocket adventure
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Incredible
06/16/23 12:15:16 AM
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PowerOats posted...
Wtf is pocket adventure

Dimps' first Sonic game. It was on the Neo Geo Pocket Color, a flop handheld.

Honestly, I could never get into the 8-bit Sonic games. They're just watered-down versions of the Genesis games. So is Advance 1, but it wasn't too far off.
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PowerOats
06/16/23 12:15:35 AM
#20:


Scotty are those your personal scores, cuz most people seem to like Advance 3, Rush Adventure, and 3DS Generations
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Vayu_The_End
06/16/23 12:18:50 AM
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I liked Advance 3 growing up, personally. It was also one of two games I had at the time, so I guess I didn't have a choice, lol.

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Incredible
06/16/23 12:19:07 AM
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Advance 3 is maybe a tiny bit better than 2, but the level design is too trial-and-error and the team mechanics were lame. Only the first Advance is passable; 2 and 3 are the precursors to the Rush games, which are just mediocre. Boosting to win is only entertaining for so long.

Rush Adventure is just more of the same crap as the first Rush, except with some crappy boat minigames tacked on. The waterbike was fun, but the other boat minigames sucked. And having to play the same levels over and over again was a dumb way to pad out the story mode.

Classic Sonic's physics in Generations 3DS were definitely much better than the console version and Sonic 4. But most of the level design was terrible.
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Vayu_The_End
06/16/23 12:41:18 AM
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Honestly, I feel like 2d sonic games broadly suffer from issues of trial and error. In 2D sonic games with boost mechanics, the boosts either have to be heavily controlled, the level design is "hold forward to win", or the level is trial and error.

I don't think boost mechanics in 2D games leave a ton of room to be anything other than trial and error or "hold forward to win".

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Garlands_Soul
06/16/23 12:44:32 AM
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Some of the handheld ones have widescreen mods that make them a billion times more playable imo, but they aren't as fun as the genesis ones regardless

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Incredible
06/17/23 2:42:24 PM
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Incredible posted...
lol

Sonic Pocket Adventure (5/10)
Sonic Advance (6/10)
Sonic Advance 2 (5/10)
Sonic Advance 3 (5/10)
Sonic Rush (5/10)
Sonic Rush Adventure (5/10)
Sonic 4 Episode 1 (4/10)
Sonic Generatinos 3DS (5/10)
Sonic 4 Episode 2 (5/10)
Sonic Lost World 3DS (4/10)

I wonder if Dimps will ever make another Sonic game

lol forgot Sonic Colors DS: 5/10
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BlueBoy675
06/17/23 2:47:07 PM
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Music Plant is a top tier Sonic zone

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