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xGhostchantx posted...

It's not harmless, it's less harmful than others.

You can get addicted to it (I am)
You can become dependent on it (I am)
You can get withdrawals from it

Ultimately all three of those are far less destructive than other drug options, but harmless it is not.

This. Also, look up cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome.

mustachedmystic posted...

I discovered disposable THC vapes a few years ago, and I am never going back sSo easy, so convenient.

Actual THC or that delta-8/9 shit, I felt pretty scammed when it came to the latter

Drugs are bad.

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xGhostchantx posted...

It's not harmless, it's less harmful than others.

You can get addicted to it (I am)
You can become dependent on it (I am)
You can get withdrawals from it

Ultimately all three of those are far less destructive than other drug options, but harmless it is not.

Never get in a car with someone who isn't an every day smoker.

You can literally have all those problems with anything though.

My mom is addicted to shopping and my dad is addicted to working ffs.

Weed can also give you heightened anxiety and panic attacks on a near constant basis.

NO2_Fiend posted...

You can literally have all those problems with anything though.

My mom is addicted to shopping and my dad is addicted to working ffs.

Exactly why I said less harmful than others. Drugs are objectively easier to get addicted to than stuff like shopping or working.

wanderingshade posted...

Weed can also give you heightened anxiety and panic attacks on a near constant basis.

That's the main reason I don't smoke. My anxiety fucking shoots up massively over my generally pretty high baseline. Not a good time.

g980 posted...

Not in any capacity worth discussing

Nirvanas_Nox posted...

Way less harmful then alcohol

And this is why stoners have a bad reputation and there is still pushback against weed. Because they refuse to acknowledge there are any negative sides to it.

loafy013 posted...

And this is why stoners have a bad reputation and there is still pushback against weed. Because they refuse to acknowledge there are any negative sides to it.

Sounds like you dont have enough experience with weed to give an accurate opinion

MrDrMan posted...

Sounds like you dont have enough experience with weed to give an accurate opinion

This is possibly true. The very first time, sometimes the first few times can be unpleasant, especially if you've been drinking.

MrDrMan posted...

Sounds like you dont have enough experience with weed to give an accurate opinion

that is exactly what I was referring to. I mention that there are negatives to smoking weed, and you come across as going on the defensive.

loafy013 posted...

that is exactly what I was referring to. I mention that there are negatives to smoking weed, and you come across as going on the defensive.

There are negatives to literally anything. You act is you are saying something groundbreaking.

If you were specifically saying what negatives and how they affect people I would be open to your opinion.

loafy013 posted...

that is exactly what I was referring to. I mention that there are negatives to smoking weed, and you come across as going on the defensive.

Well, it's still a good point to bring up -- often, negative side effects are transient and will pass, much like some medications out there. But I can understand it totally turning people off. You get to a point where it no longer gets you 'stoned,' so to speak, just chilled -- but at that point, you start to feel it in your wallet, that's for sure.

The only dab I've heard of is the dance move.

MrDrMan posted...

There are negatives to literally anything. You act as if you are saying something groundbreaking when really youre not saying anything.

If you were specifically saying what negatives and how they affect people I would be open to your opinion.

I know the negative sides to weed.

OK. Somebody mentions they need to drink alcohol every day in order to function. That is seen as addiction. But if somebody mentions they need to smoke every day in order to function, they refuse to see it as an addiction. They will go on and on about all studies showing there is no physical addiction possible and refuse to talk about the mental aspect of it.

That was the point of my original post. If people want marijuana use to be more accepted, they need to stop pretending that it is 100% sunshine and rainbows and acknowledge that there are negatives.

MrDrMan posted...

If you were specifically saying what negatives and how they affect people I would be open to your opinion.

i literally posted some issues with it already and you all ignored it because reasons

AnsestralRecall posted...

i literally posted some issues with it already and you all ignored it because reasons

I didnt read every post bro.

loafy013 posted...

OK. Somebody mentions they need to drink alcohol every day in order to function. That is seen as addiction. But if somebody mentions they need to smoke every day in order to function, they refuse to see it as an addiction. They will go on and on about all studies showing there is no physical addiction possible and refuse to talk about the mental aspect of it.

That was the point of my original post. If people want marijuana use to be more accepted, they need to stop pretending that it is 100% sunshine and rainbows and acknowledge that there are negatives.

You can be addicted to weed. 100%. I dont think the majority of people deny that. Sure there are negatives but they are much less harmful than many things that are already legal and always have been like alcohol and opioids. Alcohol for example is legal and has been constantly marketed and pushed down our throat since childhood. Why is that? Thats the stance of most stoners I know.

When I smoke I usually smoke a joint on the patio then eat a good meal and play games or watch a movie. Alcohol leads to much more destructive behavior while providing no realistic medicinal benefit.

MrDrMan posted...

You can be addicted to weed. 100%. I dont think the majority of people deny that.

Sadly there are all too many that do, being in that kind of social circle I've experienced it over and over, they just refuse to see the reality of it. If it brings an unnatural dopamine rush, it will become addictive, end of story. That's how the brain works.

Brain goes "hm, I'm pretty sure there's meant to be more dopamine here. this is not normal. i'm now going to send signals telling my body it's not normal"

Vaping a bb size rosin or live sugar > smoking a blunt and getting equivalent high

Also no smell lingering or lighters. Frankly anyone living near a dispensary and is still using flower is doing it wrong

xGhostchantx posted...

Sadly there are all too many that do, being in that kind of social circle I've experienced it over and over, they just refuse to see the reality of it. If it brings an unnatural dopamine rush, it will become addictive, end of story. That's how the brain works.

Brain goes "hm, I'm pretty sure there's meant to be more dopamine here. this is not normal. i'm now going to send signals telling my body it's not normal"

I think theres a piece of thats just being miscommunicated. I dont believe weed is physically addicting like there are adverse physical effects when people dont smoke. You dont have withdrawals like someone with an alcohol or opioid addiction.

It is just habit forming which is different IMO.

Axiom posted...

Vaping a bb size rosin or live sugar > smoking a blunt and getting equivalent high

Also no smell lingering or lighters. Frankly anyone living near a dispensary and is still using flower is doing it wrong

Carts are the way to go now. Discreet and no paraphernalia required. Just hit it and toss it when its out.

I do think thats part of the stigma around weed is all the bullshit people use to ingest it. Cant blame people for thinking youre a crackhead when you have a literal propane tank in your hand to get Hugh.

Eh I prefer the natural product to carts especially disposables. They're good for being in public but I prefer the look taste and general feel of sugar and rosin which is mainly what I've dealt with

g980 posted...

Not in any capacity worth discussing

Sure if the following don't bother you:
-memory problems
-ruins your brains ability to control synapses (you lose the ability to "enjoy" things normally as a potential side effect for your brain not being able to control synapses normally)
-teeth go bad or the potential to get gum disease, basically all the hot gas you inhale don't play well with your teeth or gums
-ruins various internal organs over time (most notably lungs).

MrDrMan posted...

Just hit it and toss it when its out.

now your pot consumption is harmful to the environment, gg

Axiom posted...

Eh I prefer the natural product to carts especially disposables. They're good for being in public but I prefer the look taste and general feel of sugar and rosin which is mainly what I've dealt with

I really just smoke these days to take the edge off and unwind a lil. I find with disposables I can carefully control how high I get because I can just take a small hit as needed.

With dabs sometimes you take one and youre just smacked. Flower is just too much because I absolutely hate to smell like weed in any type or public setting.

MrDrMan posted...

Flower is just too much because I absolutely hate to smell like weed in any type or public setting.

Try a dry herb vaporizer, they're the best. The smell lingers for maybe 5 minutes if at all and you can change the temperature so you can control the effects. Plus you can make edibles from the decarboxylated bud

MrDrMan posted...

I absolutely hate to smell like weed in any type or public setting.

That was the worst part of working at a theatre. All the teens coming in, smelling like a skunk while they thought nobody knew. The only bright side was how easy it was to keep upselling concessions to them. Don't nachos sound good right now? I bet a large icee would go great with that. More than once a sober friend would step in and tell us that they didn't want any more and to stop asking.

Crayon_Lover posted...

Try a dry herb vaporizer, they're the best. The smell lingers for maybe 5 minutes if at all and you can change the temperature so you can control the effects. Plus you can make edibles from the decarboxylated bud

Quoted for truth. A Pax 3 was the best purchase I ever made

MrDrMan posted...

I think theres a piece of thats just being miscommunicated. I dont believe weed is physically addicting like there are adverse physical effects when people dont smoke. You dont have withdrawals like someone with an alcohol or opioid addiction.

It is just habit forming which is different IMO.

You absolutely do, and I have them. Ultimately they're really minor -- I was admittedly a shameless junkie for a very long time, so I can confidently say (most) people having an absolute breakdown about weed withdrawals probably need to drink a cup of concrete and harden up. Of course, everyone's experience is different, but there are most certainly physical symptoms (mostly hot/cold flashes and a bit of discomfort).

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If you get them from a reputable vendor, you'll be fine -- absolutely do not ever at any time buy the illicit shit, because much of that is cut with Vitamin E Acetate which is known to cause EVALI, and is the only vaporizer product known to cause EVALI (although disposable vapes are also a concern, source depending).

i never tried dabs, i remember hearing about them like 10years ago or something and not knowing wtf they were until recently lol. it sounds cool tho i would like to try it but idk anyone who has it

Frosted_Midna posted...

Too bad the stuff smells gross.

It doesn't actually.
Concentrates remove most of the stinky smell.

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Nice. That's the hot air vapeing yea. No burned plant means no smoke, all that's created is a cannabinoid steam. That's the 2nd healthiest way to consume, behind edibles.
And edibles are soooooo much more effective. Now that I only use edibles, i still get super high for 5-6 hours, but it only takes 10mg. If you smoke or vape at the same time it raises your tolerance. Which causes you to use more and more and more over time. Edibles don't do that.

a-c-a-b posted...

I would've totally been down with dabs and the super strong stuff when I was younger, but these days I'm a pretty casual smoker with a low tolerance and the regular stuff does me just fine.

I do like edibles sometimes though.

this is pretty much me. as someone who used to dab every day im good with some puffs of flower. even a nice J/blunt will get me twisted these days

*chills*

nexigrams posted...

I smoked when I was in high school, and I generally enjoyed it quite a bit. Just gave me a really pleasant, warm and fuzzy sort of feeling that all was right with the world. It was fun.

We were just dumb kids, and the big indoor growing boom hadn't happened yet, so what we got was what they called, "Mexican Schwag," ie very poor quality weed that was mostly sticks and stems. Then, as I left high school, the weed started getting better and better, and I noticed that all it did was make me feel very uncomfortable and anxious. I gave it up and haven't touched it since.

I always thought that maybe I just grew out of it or whatever, but lately I've been wondering if it was just the high THC percentage. I read a study that said most of the confiscated shit the DEA tested at the time was 2-4% THC, and the shit they were testing when I quit was more like 15-20%. Now it's even higher than that. I would love to find a low THC seller, though, and give it a try again. Had some good times with it in high school.

This is pretty much my life story, after moving post-high school and gradually ceasing to smoke because I couldn't find anywhere to get it for a long time, I could never go back to it. Just started making me completely anxious and hyper focused on all kinds of negativity.

It took me years to realize that it may have always been like that to some extent when I was smoking daily, just with so much more tolerance and the lower THC factor I couldn't recognize it.

BuzzKilljoy posted...

This is pretty much my life story, after moving post-high school and gradually ceasing to smoke because I couldn't find anywhere to get it for a long time, I could never go back to it. Just started making me completely anxious and hyper focused on all kinds of negativity.

It took me years to realize that it may have always been like that to some extent when I was smoking daily, just with so much more tolerance and the lower THC factor I couldn't recognize it.

CBD can help take the edge off or even eliminate the anxiety some people get from weed. I use it daily for anxiety in general.

loafy013 posted...

That was the worst part of working at a theatre. All the teens coming in, smelling like a skunk while they thought nobody knew

So the "skunk" smell I smell every so often is weed? Or could it actually be a skunk?

probably a skunk smoking a joint

I love how every single stoner in this thread is completely ignoring where I mentioned cannabinoid hyperemesis syndrome, which can happen to any long term pot user and can cause really nasty effects and can even kill you. It's rare, but it can happen. And the only way to reverse it is to quit weed entirely.

I am addicted to weed as well but let's stop burying our heads in the sand. Weed is not harmless.

Frosted_Midna posted...

Too bad the stuff smells gross.

It smells fucking vile.

Weed definitely isn't harmless. Whataboutism doesn't help you prove that it is either.

Super_Slash posted...

which can happen to any long term pot user and can cause really nasty effects and can even kill you.

lmao

it turned me into a newt

VirtuousWrath posted...

lmao

Go look it up. Or don't and cover your ears.