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MedeaLysistrata
06/08/23 6:48:02 AM
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https://globalnews.ca/news/9367614/election-2023-justin-trudeau-liberal-leader-ipsos/

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NeonTentacles
06/08/23 6:50:34 AM
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Justin "I don't know how many pics of me in blackface exist" Trudeau

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MedeaLysistrata
06/08/23 6:52:21 AM
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NeonTentacles posted...
Justin "I don't know how many pics of me in blackface exist" Trudeau
lol you're never gonna let him forget that are you

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Damn_Underscore
06/08/23 7:28:16 AM
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Do they really say per cent in Canada

Percent is a different word. Were not literally talking about money

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MedeaLysistrata
06/08/23 7:29:57 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Do they really say per cent in Canada

Percent is a different word. Were not literally talking about money
Uh I'm not sure... I've never really noticed that but I don't think per cent is normal

Edit: OK apparently per cent is UK

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K181
06/08/23 7:30:26 AM
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Justin Fidel Castro Jr Trudeau

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Dark_Arbron
06/08/23 7:33:15 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Do they really say per cent in Canada

Percent is a different word. Were not literally talking about money

The etymology checks out. Per cent literally means by the hundred. A cent is called a cent because its a hundredth of a dollar.

In Australia (UK English) we spell it as percent though.

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divot1338
06/08/23 8:28:45 AM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Do they really say per cent in Canada

Percent is a different word. Were not literally talking about money
Its Latin.

per centum - through one hundred

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divot1338
06/08/23 8:33:03 AM
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When we typically go and ask this question on surveys, you find that all the opposition voters want elections. People who are voting for the government on the other side dont necessarily want an election, said Darrell Bricker, CEO of Ipsos, in an interview with Global News.


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Gritty
06/08/23 8:36:37 AM
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Read that as erection
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Samurai_Man
06/08/23 8:37:24 AM
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NeonTentacles posted...
Justin "I don't know how many pics of me in blackface exist" Trudeau
LOL

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apocalyptic_4
06/08/23 8:43:00 AM
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Not surprised I've been seeing anti liberal and Trudeau protests for months in my area.

A house down the road from me has a large picture of Trudeau in blackface plastered over the house with posters saying "fuck Trudeau"

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Doom_Art
06/08/23 8:53:11 AM
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apocalyptic_4 posted...
Not surprised I've been seeing anti liberal and Trudeau protests for months in my area.

A house down the road from me has a large picture of Trudeau in blackface plastered over the house with posters saying "fuck Trudeau"
I can't wait to see the Tories trot that out again next election

Worked so well for them in 2019 and 2021

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Eat_More_Beef
06/08/23 8:53:50 AM
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Jesus fuck. Almost half the population wanted a fucking election last time and the government spent millions of dollars on ads just to have the exact same fucking outcome.

The people voted in that idiot, so fucking deal with it and let him finish his term.

Calling for another election isn't gonna shift anything in the Conservative's favour because a) we're a liberal country, and b), no one wants that piece of shit populist Polliver in power.

Fucking Conservatives finding a way to be a victim every fucking second of their fucking lives.

You don't like your country's leadership that the people voted for? Fucking leave.

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divot1338
06/08/23 8:54:25 AM
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Admittedly I am more familiar with US elections but based on this poll I am going to guess that the same 49 percent will end up splitting the vote at ~49% with a third candidate drawing off almost 1%. Forcing a runoff and dicking everyone around.

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K181
06/08/23 10:33:30 AM
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Doom_Art posted...
I can't wait to see the Tories trot that out again next election

Worked so well for them in 2019 and 2021

The Tories got more votes than the Liberals nationwide in both elections. I know that's not how elections work, but it's not like they're getting blown out or anything.

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K181
06/08/23 10:38:06 AM
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Eat_More_Beef posted...
Jesus fuck. Almost half the population wanted a fucking election last time and the government spent millions of dollars on ads just to have the exact same fucking outcome.

The people voted in that idiot, so fucking deal with it and let him finish his term.

Calling for another election isn't gonna shift anything in the Conservative's favour because a) we're a liberal country, and b), no one wants that piece of shit populist Polliver in power.

Fucking Conservatives finding a way to be a victim every fucking second of their fucking lives.

You don't like your country's leadership that the people voted for? Fucking leave.

I agree that another election will likely have similar results, but what? Canada isn't a fixed-election date state, snap elections are the norm and calling for new elections has been done by essentially every opposition party in history unless the ruling party has a huge popularity edge, in which they they push for a new election to try to extend their terms.

This is common stuff in Westerminster-ish systems.

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Enclave
06/08/23 10:39:26 AM
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K181 posted...
The Tories got more votes than the Liberals nationwide in both elections. I know that's not how elections work, but it's not like they're getting blown out or anything.

Doesn't mean much when the left vote is split while the conservative vote isn't.

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K181
06/08/23 10:47:07 AM
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Enclave posted...
Doesn't mean much when the left vote is split while the conservative vote isn't.

Sure it does in a first-past-the-post system. That's how Harper was in charge for a decade.

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Enclave
06/08/23 10:59:52 AM
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K181 posted...
Sure it does in a first-past-the-post system. That's how Harper was in charge for a decade.

True I suppose, I do wish we'd get a proportional representation system like Trudeau campaigned on oh so long ago before he completely flaked out on that promise because he realised that it would seriously strengthen the NDP and weaken the Liberals.

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Eat_More_Beef
06/08/23 11:04:19 AM
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K181 posted...
I agree that another election will likely have similar results, but what? Canada isn't a fixed-election date state, snap elections are the norm and calling for new elections has been done by essentially every opposition party in history unless the ruling party has a huge popularity edge, in which they they push for a new election to try to extend their terms.

This is common stuff in Westerminster-ish systems.

Not all the time. I think the three previous elections that had Harper garner a minority government, then majority, then minority again didn't have snap elections? I could be wrong, however.

I just hate that, though. While I understand it's good to have that as a check and balance, a lot if platforms a party runs on don't automatically work within two years and it takes time for this ideas and what-not to become financially stable.

I'm of the mind that, we, the majority of the people, voted for someone. Give them the chance to implement their ideas. If it works, and the people like it, they get another four years. You're cutting off their nose to spite their face.

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K181
06/08/23 11:17:09 AM
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Enclave posted...
True I suppose, I do wish we'd get a proportional representation system like Trudeau campaigned on oh so long ago before he completely flaked out on that promise because he realised that it would seriously strengthen the NDP and weaken the Liberals.

That's the thing, Canada could easily lock out the Tories if the Libs and NDP just united. But they dislike each other more than the right, so the Tories will always have a shot in Canada.

It's not like England where Labour is getting killed until recently due to a split, the Tories there have been utterly dominant in England.

Eat_More_Beef posted...
Not all the time. I think the three previous elections that had Harper garner a minority government, then majority, then minority again didn't have snap elections? I could be wrong, however.

I just hate that, though. While I understand it's good to have that as a check and balance, a lot if platforms a party runs on don't automatically work within two years and it takes time for this ideas and what-not to become financially stable.

I'm of the mind that, we, the majority of the people, voted for someone. Give them the chance to implement their ideas. If it works, and the people like it, they get another four years. You're cutting off their nose to spite their face.

2011 was a snap, but for the most party Harper recognized that his hold tenuous. When you're not confident in chances, you don't call for a snap election while in power. The Libs did pretty regularly call for one during his time in power, though.

But remember, Trudeu didn't have a majority or even a plurality. Sure, the combined left got more votes, but more people voted against the Libs than for them, and still the case if you only counted the top two parties, too.

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Payzmaykr
06/08/23 11:18:12 AM
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I think most places are ready for some new leadership at this point. $700,000 starter homes and $8 zucchini is not a good look for any nation and I think we have been too patient for too long.
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MedeaLysistrata
06/08/23 11:19:34 AM
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My personal take is to wait until the Americans have their election <_<

then Canada can plan better

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Enclave
06/08/23 11:24:01 AM
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K181 posted...
But they dislike each other more than the right, so the Tories will always have a shot in Canada.

Not really, if this was the case you would sooner see the Liberals and Conservatives work together to pass legislation but instead we get Liberal/NDP coalitions which tend to be far more beneficial to Canadians than a Liberal majority.

The Liberals also love to talk about the things they've done to help Canadians even though they usually only have done it due to pressure from the NDP. Quite annoying how so many people ignore this.

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K181
06/08/23 11:27:55 AM
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It's absolutely a Tory advantage, but until they change the rules (which Trudeau said he'd do and then backed down for another poster's aforementioned point), the Tories have a shot. And as you mentioned, the right learned their lesson after splitting and it costing them briefly. The right ran Canada for a decade soley because the left stayed split. Hard to imagine conservatives pulling that.

Enclave posted...
Not really, if this was the case you would sooner see the Liberals and Conservatives work together to pass legislation but instead we get Liberal/NDP coalitions which tend to be far more beneficial to Canadians than a Liberal majority.

The Liberals also love to talk about the things they've done to help Canadians even though they usually only have done it due to pressure from the NDP. Quite annoying how so many people ignore this.

Working together, sure. I misspoke about hate, my bad. But they like having their own smaller seperate pieces of the pie more than preventing the Tories having a larger one at least

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Enclave
06/08/23 11:35:39 AM
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K181 posted...
Working together, sure. I misspoke about hate, my bad. But they like having their own smaller seperate pieces of the pie more than preventing the Tories having a larger one at least

Eh, the problem is that if the NDP merges with the Liberals you end up with people on the left who are really unrepresented and the Liberals will start becoming more and more like the Democrats and shift from being a centre left party to being a centre right party, especially with how the Conservatives keep shifting right to try to emulate the Republicans.

Meanwhile the Liberals will never merge into the NDP in part because they're larger than the NDP but also because it would be surrendering a lot of corporate power and the rich cannot allow that.

The answer isn't a merger, the answer is proportional representation and while it's difficult to achieve? I don't think it's impossible.

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K181
06/08/23 11:40:11 AM
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Maybe, though I'd venture a guess that leftists would be more happy at a watered down leftist party in charge eternally than the Tories in charge accidentally.

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Alucard188
06/08/23 11:43:42 AM
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All I know is Pierre Poilivere and the rest of the CPC caucus are a fucking joke. They sent this to a friend of mine. Garbage rhetoric.

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divot1338
06/08/23 11:55:42 AM
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Alucard188 posted...
All I know is Pierre Poilivere and the rest of the CPC caucus are a fucking joke.
Lol Pierre Pollivere. There are at least three reasons Im giggling and all of them are childish.

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Choco
06/08/23 12:20:03 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
Do they really say per cent in Canada

Percent is a different word. Were not literally talking about money
how did you go through life and also make this post without ever realizing that maybe cent means 100

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Tom_Joad
06/08/23 12:31:26 PM
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Gritty posted...
Read that as erection

Yes, half of the Canadian population desires erections. That... that's not really news, though.

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Proto_Spark
06/08/23 12:45:12 PM
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It's only been 2 years since the last one, I don't think anyone actually wants an election. The election even pretty much says "young people who vote conservative want an election, as if they think the result will change. Not older people, and not people in Ontario or Quebec though"

It's not like we'll get a different result. When Polievre opens his mouth more publicly he'll scare away voters, Trudeau will probably retain a minority government pretty close to what he's got right now, and its not like Green or NDP will ever come remotely close to winning anything.
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Enclave
06/08/23 5:50:51 PM
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K181 posted...
Maybe, though I'd venture a guess that leftists would be more happy at a watered down leftist party in charge eternally than the Tories in charge accidentally.

Well no, because if you turn it into a 2 party system you just end up with the left party moving to the right and no longer being a left party. They lose all representation.

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