Current Events > PSA: If anyone still uses their 3DS, DO NOT download the latest ''update''.

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GameGodOfAll posted...

Go right ahead and make your handheld unable to ever play any non physical games by all means.

This update prevents you from playing digital games from the eshop you already downloaded? Or is it only a means to prevent pirated games/homebrew from running?

If the former, that's a bit messed up, as you already legally bought those games. If the latter, sure, it sucks, but it's within the rights of the company to protect their product/IP. If you didn't legally buy the software, then it's not exactly legal to get those digital titles elsewhere, even if they aren't available any longer.

TyVulpine posted...

Ethical right to preserve their IP? Yes, they do.
its like walking into a grocery store, and shoplifting something and then screaming about how its wrong that the store wont let you walk out with the goods.

they cant dictate that nobody is ever allowed to play this IP or obtain it ever again. They dictate whether they want to receive money in exchange for the IP. Nintendo opted not to receive money. Thats all. People will play their games regardless and they have all the moral right to

Full_Pokedex posted...

It's that way now get over it. Breaking the law is never justified.

Hey Duncan, shut the fuck up.

TyVulpine posted...

That literally has nothing to do with the topic.

It's certainly more fucking important than you licking a hole through Nintendo's boot and perfectly relevant as to why.

It's amusing how TyVulpine thinks he has any credibility after everyone knows that he defends cops gunning down sleeping people. I guess that's what narcissism does to you.

DrizztLink posted...

It's certainly more fucking important than you licking a hole through Nintendo's boot and perfectly relevant as to why.

So rather than attack their views, you decide to throw personal attacks? Grow up.

Kloe_Rinz posted...

they cant dictate that nobody is ever allowed to play this IP or obtain it ever again. They dictate whether they want to receive money in exchange for the IP. Nintendo opted not to receive money. Thats all. People will play their games regardless and they have all the moral right to

Actually they can if they own the IP.

If your argument for the behavior of a company is "it's their right to do it" you should legally be classified as a non-human

TyVulpine posted...

No, it isnt. But please keep trying to justify piracy. Its funny watching you pro-piracy people justify yourselves.

Please do not simp for corporations worth over fifty billion dollars.

The_shibe posted...

let's put it this way.

They have the grocery store. They decided the groceries are not going to sell and/or it's not cost effective to keep selling them. So they announce "tomorrow is the last day you can buy these groceries".

People say "please no, we want to keep buying them", but nintendo says "no".

Then they take their groceries and take them to the dump. They're now in the dumpster, unbuyable. But some people actually began dumpster diving - at this point, these groceries are unsellable - , so nintendo pays a lot of money to someone to develop some poison to make the now-dumped groceries toxic.

It's a d**** move, simply.

I hope you realize your comparison is an apt one but not for the reason you were posting with it.

Grocery stores/dumps are indeed supposed to stop people from dumpster diving. There's a reason dumps are usually gated, fenced, and secured facilities.

A_Good_Boy posted...

No matter how many times this gets brought up in response to Duncan acting sanctimonious about the law he'll always ignore it.

He ignores any attempt to question his shit takes now anyway.

TyVulpine posted...

So rather than attack their views, you decide to throw personal attacks? Grow up.

I thought "I worship cops" was something kids stopped doing at like 6.

When they do the same thing for firefighters and trucks.

So consider either following your own advice or licking some boot black so you can actually accomplish something down there.

ohnoitschris posted...

Please do not simp for corporations worth over fifty billion dollars.

Please do not think you have the right to steal and that laws dont apply to you, just because the corporation is worth over fifty billion dollars.

DrizztLink posted...

I thought "I worship cops" was something kids stopped doing at like 6.

When they do the same thing for firefighters and trucks.

So consider either following your own advice or licking some boot black so you can actually accomplish something down there.

Okay, so you have no valid argument and just want to troll? Bye. Muted.

Oh no.

TyVulpine posted...

So rather than attack their views, you decide to throw personal attacks? Grow up.

Growing up entails wisely allocating funds towards goods and services that cannot be obtained for free, as well as paying taxes and bills. I.E. not video games

TyVulpine posted...

So rather than attack their views, you decide to throw personal attacks? Grow up.

How do you feel about Nintendo's selective respect for copyright and fair use? How do you feel about big corporations avoiding tax?

BurmesePenguin posted...

If your argument for the behavior of a company is "it's their right to do it" you should legally be classified as a non-human

I'd be fine with that. Where do I sign up to legally be classified as a non-human? I'd prefer not being part of this species.

TyVulpine posted...

Please do not think you have the right to steal and that laws dont apply to you, just because the corporation is worth over fifty billion dollars.

Stealing implies I'm depriving someone else of a good. I'm not, I'm sharing it with the good samaritan who obtained a copy and is letting me play it on the house.

Dude's talking about valid views while his posts are just "you're being pro-pirate and that's bad regardless of the context or lack of anyone getting hurt because I say so!" lol

ohnoitschris posted...

Growing up entails wisely allocating funds towards goods and services that cannot be obtained for free, as well as paying taxes and bills. I.E. not video games

Nah, really? I own my own home and car and pay my bills. Thanks for the advice.

TyVulpine posted...

Actually they can if they own the IP.

Wrong

TyVulpine posted...

Nah, really? I own my own home and car and pay my bills. Thanks for the advice.

No you don't, you're a guy arguing about Nintendo games on GameFAQs

The_shibe posted...

They have the grocery store. They decided the groceries are not going to sell and/or it's not cost effective to keep selling them. So they announce "tomorrow is the last day you can buy these groceries".

People say "please no, we want to keep buying them", but nintendo says "no".

So then nintendo asks "why the fuck haven't you bought anything over the last 10 years then" And the people shrug their shoulders and pretend they are entitled to get stuff for free that they refused to pay for over the years.

Dark_Arbron posted...

How do you feel about Nintendo's selective respect for copyright and fair use? How do you feel about big corporations avoiding tax?

Pro-piracy people really arent ones to be talking about copyright.

ohnoitschris posted...

No you don't, you're a guy arguing about Nintendo games on GameFAQs

LMAO son, you know nothing about me.

TyVulpine posted...

Pro-piracy people really arent ones to be talking about copyright.

I am firmly a supporter of returning copyright law to no longer than 20 years until a creation becomes public domain, because the current laws are obscene, and heavily encourage piracy.

ohnoitschris posted...

Stealing implies I'm depriving someone else of a good.

This is one of many reasons why the law needs updating. It's not like it was in medieval times where stealing a loaf of bread meant the baker couldn't sell it and risked starving himself. Hence why "downloads" are not "sales." Digital information has completely changed the game and the law hasn't caught up.

TyVulpine posted...

Piracy is piracy.
It's amusing how many names I'm adding to my ignore list tonight.....

Go ahead and ignore me too then with this inane bullshit you're on.

ohnoitschris posted...

I am firmly a supporter of returning copyright law to no longer than 20 years until a creation becomes public domain, because the current laws are obscene, and heavily encourage piracy.

So would you agree that anybody pirating something that is less than 20 years ago is wrong? Because I see a lot of people in this topic whining they can't get games that I'm sure are younger than that. And if they are older, then its on them for not legally obtaining a copy when they had at least 20 years to do so.

TyVulpine posted...

Pro-piracy people really arent ones to be talking about copyright.

Who said I was pro-piracy? So far all I've done is a) state the fact that I don't empathize with Nintendo, because it's as big boy who doesn't need my sympathy or yours, and b) point out that piracy is usually about getting a better service - something the companies could easily do themselves, as proven by Valve with Steam - not just saving a few bucks.

And are you refusing to answer my question?

TyVulpine posted...

LMAO son, you know nothing about me.

I know enough to know that a dude who has to flex their belongings in the middle of an argument doesn't have a good direct response, so they have to hide behind whatever possessions they may or may not have.

Unknown5uspect posted...

Go ahead and ignore me too then with this inane bullshit you're on.

Refusing to support those that think laws dont apply to them is inane bullshit? Sure, Jan.

ohnoitschris posted...

I know enough to know that a dude who has to flex their belongings in the middle of an argument doesn't have a good direct response, so they have to hide behind whatever possessions they may or may not have.

Pot, meet kettle.

Dark_Arbron posted...

This is one of many reasons why the law needs updating. It's not like it was in medieval times where stealing a loaf of bread meant the baker couldn't sell it and risked starving himself. Hence why "downloads" are not "sales." Digital information has completely changed the game and the law hasn't caught up.

Good point. Piracy isn't stealing, it's software piracy, it's its own thing. It's closer to freebooting than actual theft, as it's misuse of a license agreement. Not depriving a man of his daily bread.

Is this guy a classic 261 refugee poster?

TyVulpine posted...

No, it isnt. But please keep trying to justify piracy. Its funny watching you pro-piracy people justify yourselves.

what part of "I don't support piracy" and "i don't plan to do anything to my 3ds" don't you get? You're just trying to be annoying right now

TyVulpine posted...

Pot, meet kettle.

I ain't flexin my shit tho lmao

BurmesePenguin posted...

Is this guy a classic 261 refugee poster?

I don't recognize them. That doesn't mean they weren't there, but I'm confident they weren't a regular.

Dark_Arbron posted...

Who said I was pro-piracy? So far all I've done is a) state the fact that I don't empathize with Nintendo, because it's as big boy who doesn't need my sympathy or yours, and b) point out that piracy is usually about getting a better service - something the companies could easily do themselves, as proven by Valve with Steam - not just saving a few bucks.

And are you refusing to answer my question?

I think that's his gimmick

if nintendo came and took a dump on your yard and you said "don't poop here" he'd say WAAAHHH Y U BE A PIRATE!!!

The_shibe posted...

what part of "I don't support piracy" and "i don't plan to do anything to my 3ds" don't you get? You're just trying to be annoying right now

Hes a bootlicker, he doesnt understand the moral/ethical side of the argument even when no piracy is involved

The_shibe posted...

I think that's his gimmick

if nintendo came and took a dump on your yard and you said "don't poop here" he'd say WAAAHHH Y U BE A PIRATE!!!

That has got to be the dumbest thing Ive seen today.

Kloe_Rinz posted...

Hes a bootlicker, he doesnt understand the moral/ethical side of the argument even when no piracy is involved

Pro-piracy people have no standing when talking about piracy.

loafy013 posted...

So would you agree that anybody pirating something that is less than 20 years ago is wrong? Because I see a lot of people in this topic whining they can't get games that I'm sure are younger than that. And if they are older, then its on them for not legally obtaining a copy when they had at least 20 years to do so.

That was a response to the other guy about how pro-piracy people shouldn't have a say on copyright infringement.

I don't care what you do with your money. The way I see it, though, if a person genuinely can't afford a game due to circumstances completely out of their control, and the game will help their mental well being towards getting them out of a bad situation, they are in no way in the moral wrong to pirate that game.

Or, you know, many other situations too. I ain't one to judge.

TyVulpine posted...

That has got to be the dumbest thing Ive seen today.

Since I hadn't thought to ask yet, how do you feel about Nintendo's disagreement with the concept of fair use (and abuse of Youtube's takedown function)? This runs both ways, no? People shouldn't violate Nintendo's IP rights, so presumably they shouldn't violate anyone else's either?

TyVulpine posted...

That has got to be the dumbest thing Ive seen today.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/6/0/5/AABUaRAAEgel.jpg
He says proudly.

Just don't waste your breath on Vulpine.

The way I see it, if the company decides to stop selling the product or support it, its free game. Go wild, fuck 'em.

The only time I pirate is if the company makes it impossible to find / play. I'm not shelling out hundreds to fake game collectors.

Kloe_Rinz posted...

Hes a bootlicker, he doesnt understand the moral/ethical side of the argument even when no piracy is involved

That makes sense.
I just tagged him accordingly

ohnoitschris posted...

That was a response to the other guy about how pro-piracy people shouldn't have a say on copyright infringement.

I don't care what you do with your money. The way I see it, though, if a person genuinely can't afford a game due to circumstances completely out of their control, and the game will help their mental well being towards getting them out of a bad situation, they are in no way in the moral wrong to pirate that game.

SMH trying to justify piracy in any way possible. I should be allowed to steal this game because it helps calm me down!
r/Karen..