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Tom_Joad
05/12/23 2:00:57 PM
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https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/portugal-ban-smoking-most-places-restrict-tobacco-sales-2023-05-11/

LISBON, May 11 (Reuters) - Portugal's government on Thursday presented legislation to extend a ban on smoking to outdoor areas including covered terraces and to restrict tobacco sales, as it hopes to raise a tobacco-free generation by 2040.

"With this amendment, we will start today to protect the adults of tomorrow," Health Minister Manuel Pizarro told a press conference, dismissing criticism from some business groups who say the measures are too harsh and discriminatory.

If approved by parliament, where the ruling Socialists have a majority, smoking next to public buildings such as schools, universities, hospitals or sports venues, outside restaurants, bars and coffee shops will be banned from Oct. 23.

Restaurants, bars and nightclubs that have dedicated smoking areas with adequate isolation will be allowed to maintain those until 2030.

From 2025, only licensed tobacconists and airport shops will be allowed to sell cigarettes and other tobacco products, meaning that vending machines, bars, restaurants and petrol stations will no longer be allowed to offer them.

Under a European Union directive, Portugal is also changing the law to equate heated tobacco products to conventional tobacco. The sale of flavoured heated tobacco will be prohibited.

The PRO.VAR restaurant association head Daniel Serra said the measures were taking away a source of revenue from often struggling small businesses. The national association of fuel retailers, which operate petrol stations, called the plan unfair and disproportionate.

A pack of cigarettes in Portugal costs around 5 euros ($5.50) - one of the lowest prices in western Europe. Some argue the government should instead raise the tobacco tax, but Pizarro said that was not a priority as prices beyond certain level would simply encourage smuggling.

According to the government, about two-thirds of deaths among smokers are attributable to tobacco use, and smokers live 10 years less than a non-smoker on average. It is estimated that in 2019 about 13,500 deaths were due to tobacco in Portugal, which has a population of around 10 million. ($1 = 0.9084 euros)

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Tom_Joad
05/12/23 2:01:17 PM
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Nice.

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GrandConjuraton
05/12/23 2:02:42 PM
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Nice.

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Trumpo
05/12/23 2:03:59 PM
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Good, fuck smokers

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Lordgold666
05/12/23 9:58:31 PM
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Trumpo posted...
Good, fuck smokers
^^

Also, lol @ smokers refusing to quit cold turkey to better themselves

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TendoDRM
05/12/23 10:00:18 PM
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Based Portugal.

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coolguyjimmy
05/12/23 10:07:36 PM
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Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
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Lonestar2000
05/12/23 10:13:12 PM
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coolguyjimmy posted...
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
C.S. Lewis
Nah, fuck making other people smell your shit.

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HANGtheDJ_86
05/14/23 7:48:27 AM
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Perhaps in the future smoking won't automatically refer to tobacco

At least tobacco has indigenous significance so it's likely to not disappear completely in North America

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Unsuprised_Pika
05/14/23 7:51:44 AM
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coolguyjimmy posted...
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
C.S. Lewis

Banning a inherently addictive substance that poisons you is not a tyranny.

Fuck off.

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saspa
05/14/23 8:04:31 AM
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I never understood why smoking is so prevalent in Europe. In USA there was this short period of time right before vapes where smoking was despised and America was a smoke free place. You could literally walk around and not even pick up a whiff of cigarette smoke.

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BroodRyu
05/14/23 8:08:09 AM
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Unsuprised_Pika posted...
Banning a inherently addictive substance that poisons you is not a tyranny.

Wouldnt this also apply to alcohol then? >_>
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Kaiganeer
05/14/23 8:10:02 AM
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good, ban vaping next
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Tom_Joad
05/14/23 8:26:34 AM
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Kaiganeer posted...
good, ban vaping next

I think vapes fall under it.

Under a European Union directive, Portugal is also changing the law to equate heated tobacco products to conventional tobacco. The sale of flavoured heated tobacco will be prohibited.

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majin_nemesis
05/14/23 8:36:45 AM
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coolguyjimmy posted...
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience."
C.S. Lewis
lol imagine thinking that banning smoking equals tyranny,
you must be one of those that thought that you should have been allowed to infect other people with covid during the pandemic by not wearing masks

smoking is not only very harmful for the smoker it's also very harmful for everyone around the smoker

BroodRyu posted...
Wouldnt this also apply to alcohol then? >_>
alcohol in small doses and depending on what drink you are drinking might not be harmful it might actually have health benefits like red wine that's good for the heart unlike smoking that has no health benefits whatsoever
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HANGtheDJ_86
05/14/23 8:51:23 AM
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Smoking can be very beneficial, especially if you need your nose to run

Ayyo

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