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BalloonBattle05
04/17/23 9:39:46 AM
#253:


@Baha05 have you actually being bullied by people who abuse the block feature?

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MrKapowski
04/17/23 10:17:36 AM
#254:


This is certainly one of the topics

I've learned I need to block TC

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BalloonBattle05
04/17/23 10:31:33 AM
#255:


MrKapowski posted...
This is certainly one of the topics

I've learned I need to block TC

would you block me if I make a you deserve cancer post and block dozens of users from reporting it? (not that I would)

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Tmaster148
04/17/23 11:05:14 AM
#256:


BalloonBattle05 posted...
would you block me if I make a you deserve cancer post and block dozens of users from reporting it? (not that I would)

Idk why you are so focused on blocking people to avoid getting reported, because that hasn't stopped moderators from modding posts like that. Mods (AFAIK) are immune to block so you can't prevent a mod seeing your post and modding it on the spot. You can't block every user on the site due to the ignore limit. Someone is going to see your power and report it.

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BalloonBattle05
04/17/23 11:07:24 AM
#257:


Tmaster148 posted...
Idk why you are so focused on blocking people to avoid getting reported, because that hasn't stopped moderators from modding posts like that. Mods (AFAIK) are immune to block so you can't prevent a mod seeing your post and modding it on the spot. You can't block every user on the site due to the ignore limit. Someone is going to see your power and report it.

mods cant be blocked, but the blocking feature is overall more trouble than its worth for reasons such as this

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Mr_hulk88
04/17/23 11:08:14 AM
#258:


BalloonBattle05 posted...
the blocking feature is overall more trouble than its worth
It's not.
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Tmaster148
04/17/23 11:08:39 AM
#259:


BalloonBattle05 posted...
mods cant be blocked, but the blocking feature is overall more trouble than its worth for reasons such as this

No one is getting away posting moddable stuff by blocking other users. There's simply too many users around that someone will see your post and report it.

You're clearly just upset that someone blocked you. Get over it.

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BalloonBattle05
04/17/23 11:09:29 AM
#260:


Tmaster148 posted...
No one is getting away posting moddable stuff by blocking other users. There's simply too many users around that someone will see your post and report it.

You're clearly just upset that someone blocked you. Get over it.

or I would be against this feature whenever or not people block me because it has caused dozens of issues like here

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/7-site-suggestions/78333931

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MC_BatCommander
04/17/23 11:09:38 AM
#261:


BalloonBattle05 posted...
mods cant be blocked, but the blocking feature is overall more trouble than its worth for reasons such as this

I can assure you that it's really no trouble.

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BalloonBattle05
04/17/23 11:29:57 AM
#262:


MC_BatCommander posted...
I can assure you that it's really no trouble.

you havent read the topic I linked before where many users posted dozens of issues?

blocking to bypass moderations itself may not specifically be an issue enough, but its just another unnecessary hole for people to jump through

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kirbymuncher
04/17/23 11:37:56 AM
#263:


dude you are weirdly obsessive over this you don't need to DM me a giant essay that I didn't even bother reading

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BalloonBattle05
04/17/23 11:41:37 AM
#264:


kirbymuncher posted...
dude you are weirdly obsessive over this you don't need to DM me a giant essay that I didn't even bother reading

must be because the blocking feature has caused more issues than it solves and any reasons people wanted it for such as excessive stalking or harassment or trolls derailing your threads implies that they should be handled differently instead of just blocking people and leaving other users, especially guests who have no such block feature, to deal with the issue.

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MC_BatCommander
04/17/23 11:42:35 AM
#265:


BalloonBattle05 posted...
you havent read the topic I linked before where many users posted dozens of issues?

blocking to bypass moderations itself may not specifically be an issue enough, but its just another unnecessary hole for people to jump through

Yes I read through that couple year old topic with a few people who don't like the block feature in general, I'd love to know what the supposed dozens of issues are beyond your weird insistence that it makes people immune to moderation.

You keep going on about all the issues it causes yet it just seems like you can't stand being blocked

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BalloonBattle05
04/17/23 11:46:04 AM
#266:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


maybe mods should implement this


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MC_BatCommander
04/17/23 11:49:32 AM
#267:


BalloonBattle05 posted...
maybe mods should implement this

I've already told you multiple times we can't change site features, mods have no say in it at all beyond maybe just giving our opinions to the admins when we're asked

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Oreos74
04/17/23 11:52:42 AM
#268:


Whos the user that says blocked
when you post an opinion they dont like?

lmao

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Mr_hulk88
04/17/23 11:56:08 AM
#269:


BalloonBattle05 posted...
the blocking feature has caused more issues than it solves
It factually hasn't.

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BalloonBattle05
04/17/23 12:02:58 PM
#270:


MC_BatCommander posted...
Yes I read through that couple year old topic with a few people who don't like the block feature in general, I'd love to know what the supposed dozens of issues are beyond your weird insistence that it makes people immune to moderation.

while it is unlikely anyone would ever do this, other people even mods could just see the tos violation post and not report because they agree with the poster. Only the person being blocked would want to report the post.

as to why the blocking feature is an issue, people have used it to be in echo chambers, which in exchange it makes topics hard to follow and makes it more likely that people will repeat a point or topic because they cant see the previous post that they were blocked from, it promotes being guest more because this way no one can block you from reading their topics and posts, (but as a double edged sword, guests cannot use the ignore feature to hide posts), other users have said it promotes bullying where you cant see the posts of your bullies, it doesnt really deter trolls of stalkers/harassers from being a problem on the site and you blocking them just means other people have to deal with the trolls.

it shouldnt necessarily be removed, but it should be changed so that it can address its intended purpose much better while not ruining the experience of users enough that them reading posts while logged out is overall better.

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BalloonBattle05
04/17/23 12:04:40 PM
#271:


MC_BatCommander posted...
I've already told you multiple times we can't change site features, mods have no say in it at all beyond maybe just giving our opinions to the admins when we're asked

when i say mods, its just out of habit. It includes admins and everyone with a higher power than mods

staff is a better word

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Tmaster148
04/17/23 12:05:26 PM
#272:


BalloonBattle05 posted...
while it is unlikely anyone would ever do this, other people even mods could just see the tos violation post and not report because they agree with the poster. Only the person being blocked would want to report the post.

as to why the blocking feature is an issue, people have used it to be in echo chambers, which in exchange it makes topics hard to follow and makes it more likely that people will repeat a point or topic because they cant see the previous post that they were blocked from, it promotes being guest more because this way no one can block you from reading their topics and posts, (but as a double edged sword, guests cannot use the ignore feature to hide posts), other users have said it promotes bullying where you cant see the posts of your bullies, it doesnt really deter trolls of stalkers/harassers from being a problem on the site and you blocking them just means other people have to deal with the trolls.

it shouldnt necessarily be removed, but it should be changed so that it can address its intended purpose much better while not ruining the experience of users enough that them reading posts while logged out is overall better.

You're just coming with conspiracies now

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MC_BatCommander
04/17/23 12:05:35 PM
#273:


Okay, you have established why you don't like blocking, what are the dozens of issues it has caused?

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BalloonBattle05
04/17/23 12:11:03 PM
#274:


MC_BatCommander posted...
Okay, you have established why you don't like blocking, what are the dozens of issues it has caused?

everything i said before about topics being harder to follow, people abusing it just because they dont like someones opinion instead of using it for the trolls its meant for, results in topics from repeated subjects made by people being unable to post in the topic theyre blocked from (such as several Super Mario Galaxy topics about the same thing instead of ONE topic for everyone to post in)

it can be a I dont like blocking because it has caused these issues thing.

Ive never actually seen anyone use it to avoid moderations, I just know that it can be abused this way. Its not just me, dozens of other users have an issue with it too.

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Tmaster148
04/17/23 12:17:38 PM
#275:


BalloonBattle05 posted...
Ive never actually seen anyone use it to avoid moderations, I just know that it can be abused this way

So there's no issue

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MC_BatCommander
04/17/23 12:17:46 PM
#276:


Okay so maybe like 2 or 3issues instead of dozens.

Topics being harder to follow I can maybe get, but are you really being blocked so often you can't follow topics from the shear number of people blocking you?

BalloonBattle05 posted...
people abusing it just because they dont like someones opinion instead of using it for the trolls its meant for, results in topics from repeated subjects made by people being unable to post in the topic theyre blocked from (such as several Super Mario Galaxy topics about the same thing instead of ONE topic for everyone to post in)

This is practically all nonsense. You're assuming a game board has multiple topics on the same thing because... Everyone's blocked and can't participate in the already existing threads? Maybe they just didn't read the board before creating a new topic?

The potential for abuse exists in literally everything we do on the internet, can't use that as an argument. The very few cases of blocking abuse I've seen over the years were dealt with by the mods.

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Baha05
04/17/23 12:20:12 PM
#277:


I disagree with your last point. Seems more like a defeatist attitude with abusing a feature when this site already has kind of a bad reputation with how the moderation system works.

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Heartomaton
04/17/23 12:20:55 PM
#278:


Day 3 of obsessively arguing about something that literally could not matter less.

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rexcrk
04/17/23 12:32:50 PM
#279:


Heartomaton posted...
Day 3 of obsessively arguing about something that literally could not matter less.
Im just impressed that TC managed to bait so many people lol.

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BalloonBattle05
04/17/23 12:44:37 PM
#280:


MC_BatCommander posted...
Okay so maybe like 2 or 3issues instead of dozens.

Topics being harder to follow I can maybe get, but are you really being blocked so often you can't follow topics from the shear number of people blocking you?

This is practically all nonsense. You're assuming a game board has multiple topics on the same thing because... Everyone's blocked and can't participate in the already existing threads? Maybe they just didn't read the board before creating a new topic?

The potential for abuse exists in literally everything we do on the internet, can't use that as an argument. The very few cases of blocking abuse I've seen over the years were dealt with by the mods.

no, other users have posted that they have seen this particular issue before with two topics of the same subject. They linked to the other threads and the tc said theyre blocked. It could easily turn to several threads.

there are multiple issues, Im just too busy to talk about this

this site originally never implemented this feature and the staff said it would cause more issues than it would solve. what were the reasons you were never going to implement this?

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Fluttershy
04/17/23 12:46:16 PM
#281:


yeah but do you know who it causes the most issues for?

shitposters.

kind of the end of the discussion there.

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MC_BatCommander
04/17/23 12:52:57 PM
#282:


BalloonBattle05 posted...
there are multiple issues, Im just too busy to talk about this

Mmhmm.

BalloonBattle05 posted...
this site originally never implemented this feature and the staff said it would cause more issues than it would solve. what were the reasons you were never going to implement this?

Can't speak for others, they were clearly wrong because it's not a big deal at all.

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BalloonBattle05
04/17/23 1:30:50 PM
#283:


Fluttershy posted...
yeah but do you know who it causes the most issues for?

shitposters.

kind of the end of the discussion there.

which is why you can report them, put them on ignore list and it implies that gamefaqs should have higher entry requirements if there are so many.

as for multiple topics on the same subject, dozens of people seem to use the blocking feature because they disagree with someones opinion. I can easily picture this situation happening.

it doesnt even have to be only blocking, it can be three shitposters wanting to create a topic on the same subject instead of using that singular subject while a fourth user who has the shitposters blocked is unaware of them and therefore creates a fourth thread.

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Fluttershy
04/17/23 1:45:27 PM
#284:


user who has the shitposters blocked is unaware of them

correct, it's why they don't see your posts. look at all the thinking and wrist-wringing you're doing about them and be aware that you've fallen off of the face of the earth for them, and realize that the system works. please.

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MrKapowski
04/17/23 1:50:41 PM
#285:


BalloonBattle05 posted...
there are multiple issues, Im just too busy to talk about this

But not too busy to post multiple paragraphs of bullshit across multiple posts

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/0/9/AASSvUAAEL8l.jpg

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BalloonBattle05
04/17/23 1:52:14 PM
#286:


Fluttershy posted...
user who has the shitposters blocked is unaware of them

correct, it's why they don't see your posts. look at all the thinking and wrist-wringing you're doing about them and be aware that you've fallen off of the face of the earth for them, and realize that the system works. please.

doesnt matter, its multiple topics being made about the same subject when the person who WOULDVE POSTED IN AN ALREADY MADE TOPIC is blocking the shitposters

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Fluttershy
04/17/23 1:54:29 PM
#287:


no, what doesn't matter is that multiple topics are being made on the same subject. it's not against any rule for a reason. it isn't like gamefaqs is running out of bandwidth.

also, i think i'd still take that if it meant shitposters could be blocked, and made to end up like yourself.

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Lizards
04/17/23 1:57:42 PM
#288:


So, what are the dozens of issues?

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BalloonBattle05
04/17/23 1:58:27 PM
#289:


MrKapowski posted...
But not too busy to post multiple paragraphs of bullshit across multiple posts

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/5/0/9/AASSvUAAEL8l.jpg

theres simply dozens of reasons why and its difficult to think of every single one. Other users also have posted them in other threads before

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BalloonBattle05
04/17/23 2:01:27 PM
#290:


Fluttershy posted...
no, what doesn't matter is that multiple topics are being made on the same subject. it's not against any rule for a reason. it isn't like gamefaqs is running out of bandwidth.

also, i think i'd still take that if it meant shitposters could be blocked, and made to end up like yourself.

its easily seen as unnecessary spamming and trolling

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Tmaster148
04/17/23 2:07:29 PM
#292:


BalloonBattle05 posted...
heres simply dozens of reasons why and its difficult to think of every single one

Clearly the issues aren't that problematic if you can't immediately list them

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Fluttershy
04/17/23 2:08:14 PM
#293:


its easily seen as unnecessary spamming and trolling

no, it isn't.

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Error1355
04/17/23 2:09:18 PM
#294:


BalloonBattle05 posted...
there are multiple issues, Im just too busy to talk about this
You are 15 of the 44 posts currently on this page.

Just this single page of this topic. From post #251 to #294 you are 34% of the posts.

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BalloonBattle05
04/17/23 2:27:05 PM
#296:


Lizards posted...
So, what are the dozens of issues?

encourages trolls to block people who call them out (which means they cannot be reported as easily and in turn means everyone else has to deal with them), makes topics harder to follow if there are missing posts, this can easily result in people repeating info because people are blocking them from seeing the previous posts, this can also easily result in topics being repeated instead of everyone posting in the same topic, or people having to waste time asking if this point has been mentioned before in the topic, Baha05 mentioned instance of bullying using blocking, this feature overall encourages less signing up so as guest you can just browse around without people blocking you, or using read only accounts so people wont know your username for blocking purposes. People with old accounts are more likely to ditch them because petty people will block these accounts from reading posts, and as a result they will be more likely to make throwaway accounts.

the strongest positives of blocking are preventing people from excessively stalking, harassing and trolling you, all blocking does is putting a bandaid on the solution instead of outright fixing it. This implies that there should be stronger moderation and entry requirements as RedWhiteBlue mentioned earlier instead of a feature that people will abuse to shut down others just for having different opinions (which ruins the ENTIRE POINT of a message board where you DISCUSS with people).

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Fluttershy
04/17/23 2:29:55 PM
#297:


encourages trolls to block people who call them out

that's less shitposts for them to have to see, so, that's a positive. are we thinking before we post?

also, all of that is worth the ability to mute shitposters. the one positive that you absolutely dodge mentioning is that it gives users control as to whether or not they have to read posts, and it's because everyone would have to deal with your shitposting if they did.

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BalloonBattle05
04/17/23 2:31:47 PM
#298:


[LFAQs-redacted-quote]


this is one of many issues, not the only one. It can also easily lead to 5 to 10 of the same topic.

but before blocking occurred, this could easily be seen as trolling and spamming if they were made at different times. Now, we must factor in the possibly of people making the same topic because they were blocked.

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Fluttershy
04/17/23 2:32:38 PM
#299:


Now, we must factor in the possibly of people making the same topic because they were blocked.

this is a good thing because users who have the shitposter blocked can still discuss a subject with other people. duh?

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BalloonBattle05
04/17/23 2:35:20 PM
#300:


Fluttershy posted...
encourages trolls to block people who call them out

that's less shitposts for them to have to see, so, that's a positive. are we thinking before we post?

also, all of that is worth the ability to mute shitposters. the one positive that you absolutely dodge mentioning is that it gives users control as to whether or not they have to read posts, and it's because everyone would have to deal with your shitposting if they did.

the ignore button does this already

Error1355 posted...
You are 15 of the 44 posts currently on this page.

Just this single page of this topic. From post #251 to #294 you are 34% of the posts.

I said I was busy because I was too busy being sidetracked with other stuff

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BalloonBattle05
04/17/23 2:35:44 PM
#301:


Fluttershy posted...
Now, we must factor in the possibly of people making the same topic because they were blocked.

this is a good thing because users who have the shitposter blocked can still discuss a subject with other people. duh?

the shitposter can be banned, and they can also be blocking YOU

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Error1355
04/17/23 2:37:47 PM
#302:


BalloonBattle05 posted...
the shitposter can be banned, and they can also be blocking YOU
gasp!

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