Current Events > It has been 17 years since GANONDORF has been in a mainline Zelda game

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Blue_Inigo
04/13/23 9:20:31 PM
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Kinda fucking crazy to think about. That was like forever ago

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Hayame_Zero
04/13/23 9:22:32 PM
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I don't know which is crazier, the fact that he hasn't been in a game in 17 years, or that Twilight Princess came out 17 years ago.

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VampireCoyote
04/13/23 9:23:35 PM
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Isnt he the baddie in Breath of the Wild?

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Antifar
04/13/23 9:24:12 PM
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VampireCoyote posted...
Isnt he the baddie in Breath of the Wild?
That's Ganon

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Blue_Inigo
04/13/23 9:24:23 PM
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VampireCoyote posted...
Isnt he the baddie in Breath of the Wild?
Ganon, the pig demon version. Not Ganondorf, his "human" self

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ViewtifulJoe
04/13/23 9:26:45 PM
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Has there ever been a Ganondorf boss fight where he wasn't a complete pushover?

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LordFarquad1312
04/13/23 9:27:42 PM
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I fucking hate Ganondorf. Bunch of posers who've only played OoT thought he was the main antagonist of the series back in middle school.

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Storm101
04/13/23 9:30:23 PM
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Blue_Inigo posted...
Ganon, the pig demon version. Not Ganondorf, his "human" self
And really Calamity Ganon is more like a puppet born from the malice spewing from Ganondorf's shriveled body, so it's likely not even the "real" Ganon.
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rexcrk
04/13/23 9:34:50 PM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
I fucking hate Ganondorf. Bunch of posers who've only played OoT thought he was the main antagonist of the series back in middle school.
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/1/0/3/AACE4xAADpLf.jpg

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DKBananaSlamma
04/13/23 9:35:38 PM
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No fucking way. Was Twilight Princess seriously the last game he was in?

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Sufferedphoneix
04/13/23 9:38:04 PM
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LordFarquad1312 posted...
I fucking hate Ganondorf. Bunch of posers who've only played OoT thought he was the main antagonist of the series back in middle school.

I mean he kinda is. Him and Ganon are literally the same person.

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YellowSUV
04/13/23 9:40:17 PM
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DKBananaSlamma posted...
No fucking way. Was Twilight Princess seriously the last game he was in?

Yeah, besides spinoff games like Hyrule Warriors.

Any form of Ganon has been sparse after TP.

A Link Between Worlds :Ganon appears for less than a minute then gets hijacked by alternate universe Ganon

Breath of the Wild : Ganon isn't really Ganon, but a force of nature.

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ChocoboMogALT
04/13/23 9:43:04 PM
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It's been 14/16 years since Toon Link was in a game.

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Final_Tran
04/13/23 9:47:35 PM
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ChocoboMogALT posted...
It's been 14/16 years since Toon Link was in a game.

Smash Ultimate

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Lokison
04/13/23 9:47:43 PM
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Sufferedphoneix posted...
I mean he kinda is. Him and Ganon are literally the same person.
This but..

Ganondorf is an avatar for Ganon, or more like a vessel. But that's the distinction; Ganondorf the Vessel hasn't been around for 17 years.

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ChocoboMogALT
04/13/23 9:50:22 PM
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Final_Tran posted...
Smash Ultimate
Ok. "Mainline Zelda game" for the context illiterate. That's not even the damn point.

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ViewtifulJoe
04/13/23 9:51:31 PM
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Maybe they could bring back Demise and have him as a third phase after Dorf and Gannon.

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ChocoboMogALT
04/13/23 9:53:00 PM
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Nah, fuck off.

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YellowSUV
04/13/23 9:53:19 PM
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ViewtifulJoe posted...
Maybe they could bring back Demise and have him as a third phase after Dorf and Gannon.

Demise seems to appear in the trailer at around 1:18

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHGShqcAHlQ

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ViewtifulGrave
04/13/23 10:04:40 PM
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Lokison posted...
This but..

Ganondorf is an avatar for Ganon, or more like a vessel. But that's the distinction; Ganondorf the Vessel hasn't been around for 17 years.
???

Ganon is just Ganondorf using the Triforce of Power. Where are you getting this avatar nonsense?

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ViewtifulGrave
04/13/23 10:12:05 PM
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ChocoboMogALT posted...
Ok. "Mainline Zelda game" for the context illiterate. That's not even the damn point.
Youre still wrong because Triforce Heroes came out in 2015.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/7/8/AAU2gcAAEYXa.jpg

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Blue_Inigo
04/13/23 10:15:33 PM
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https://twitter.com/ZeldaUniverse/status/1646687328541237250?s=20

This is the fifth time the trio have been in a Zelda game

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ChocoboMogALT
04/13/23 10:43:25 PM
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ChocoboMogALT posted...
Ok. "Mainline Zelda game" for the context illiterate. That's not even the damn point.


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Bat178
04/13/23 11:02:28 PM
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ViewtifulGrave posted...
Youre still wrong because Triforce Heroes came out in 2015.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/a/user_image/3/7/8/AAU2gcAAEYXa.jpg
That's actually Young Link, they just redesigned him to look like Toon Link in that game.

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Letsago
04/13/23 11:05:41 PM
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ViewtifulGrave posted...
???

Ganon is just Ganondorf using the Triforce of Power. Where are you getting this avatar nonsense?
He can use the ToP without transforming into Ganon.

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Sufferedphoneix
04/13/23 11:34:51 PM
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Lokison posted...
This but..

Ganondorf is an avatar for Ganon, or more like a vessel. But that's the distinction; Ganondorf the Vessel hasn't been around for 17 years.

Since OoT and twilight princess I always assumed Ganondorf was his normal form and Ganon is basically a transformation he's capable of due to the triforce of power.

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Sufferedphoneix
04/13/23 11:36:17 PM
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Letsago posted...
He can use the ToP without transforming into Ganon.

Yes but it's one of the abilities the triforce of power gives him.

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Heartomaton
04/13/23 11:37:39 PM
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I kinda want to see a Zelda game someday that switches up which of them has which piece of the Triforce.

Say, give Link power, Zelda courage, and Ganondorf wisdom.

Could be interesting, I think.

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Kim_Seong-a
04/13/23 11:42:18 PM
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Demise was just WalMart Ganondorf in any case

Sufferedphoneix posted...
Since OoT and twilight princess I always assumed Ganondorf was his normal form and Ganon is basically a transformation he's capable of due to the triforce of power

Think that's his backstory in the LttP manual, though Ganondorf is never actually seen or referenced in-game

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Sufferedphoneix
04/13/23 11:44:59 PM
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Heartomaton posted...
I kinda want to see a Zelda game someday that switches up which of them has which piece of the Triforce.

Say, give Link power, Zelda courage, and Ganondorf wisdom.

Could be interesting, I think.

Eh it's kinda written into the lore now to be that way. I guess they could have a plot where some God like magical being switches it up on them just to wreck some havoc.

Idk about that order though. Zelda having courage wouldn't make much sense unless she takes a more prominent role in the fight against Ganon. I'd say link wisdom (puzzles are a big thing in the games so I assume canonicaly link is pretty smart) zelda power and Ganon courage. Ganon uses his courage to stand up to zelda thinking him and his people are second class citizens of hyrule and manages to take her down. Then in comes link to outsmart him to save the day.

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Vermander
04/13/23 11:46:55 PM
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I want to replace TP. I hope they port that and Wind Waker to switch

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Heartomaton
04/13/23 11:47:26 PM
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Mine was just a hypothetical example, I'm not married to the exact order. Just the change-up.

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Sufferedphoneix
04/13/23 11:53:39 PM
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Heartomaton posted...
Mine was just a hypothetical example, I'm not married to the exact order. Just the change-up.

I never agreed with zelda having wisdom outside a game here and there either. She comes off kinda dumb in some games. Like revealing herself in thr temple of time which is literally like down the road from Ganondorf castle. Think Ganondorf should have wisdom and her power honestly. She wields some powerful magic but Ganondorf usually gets ahead through his wits rather than brute force. He has brute force for sure but you rarely see him use it outside fighting link

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dancing_cactuar
04/14/23 12:01:05 AM
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ViewtifulJoe posted...
Maybe they could bring back Demise and have him as a third phase after Dorf and Gannon.
I mean Skyward Sword ends with the Master Sword was holding his consciousness and in Tears of the Kingdom it's fucking busted, so...

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VampireCoyote
04/14/23 12:02:24 AM
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Zelda lore and timelines always seems really dumb I think that fans are thinking up this stuff way more than Nintendo is bothering with it

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Sufferedphoneix
04/14/23 12:04:55 AM
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VampireCoyote posted...
Zelda lore and timelines always seems really dumb I think that fans are thinking up this stuff way more than Nintendo is bothering with it

Hey didnt it cause them to eventually put out an official time line? And then skyward sword finally put in some lore to tie all the game together iirc

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Super_Slash
04/14/23 12:11:40 AM
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Kim_Seong-a posted...
Demise was just WalMart Ganondorf in any case

Think that's his backstory in the LttP manual, though Ganondorf is never actually seen or referenced in-game
Ganondorf IS mentioned by name in ALttP by one of the sages.
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Super_Slash
04/14/23 12:12:37 AM
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And whoever said he's not the main villain of the franchise is just flat out wrong. Ganondorf and Ganon are literally the same person, besides MAYBE in BotW.
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Storm101
04/14/23 12:24:36 AM
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dancing_cactuar posted...
I mean Skyward Sword ends with the Master Sword was holding his consciousness and in Tears of the Kingdom it's fucking busted, so...
It said he would be destroyed over time inside the Master Sword. It seems unlikely he's still in there by the time of TotK, which is tens, possibily even hundreds of thousands of years later.
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TMOG
04/14/23 12:29:39 AM
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I still want a Zelda game where you can play as Link, Zelda, or Ganondorf, and all three get different power sets from dungeons to clear their storyline.

Link gets his tools and weapons as usual.
Zelda gets spells.
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Sufferedphoneix
04/14/23 12:36:25 AM
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TMOG posted...
I still want a Zelda game where you can play as Link, Zelda, or Ganondorf, and all three get different power sets from dungeons to clear their storyline.

Link gets his tools and weapons as usual.
Zelda gets spells.
Ganondorf gets new transformations.

I did love that the main storyline in hyrule warriors had you play Ganondorf a bit. So playing him a regular zelda title would be epic.

Could fall back on a previous post of mine. Have zelda seem to be the villain and Ganondorf feeling his people the guerdo had been treated unfairly and so he takes the fight to her. Maybe even make it true but after Ganondorf wins he becomes a complete tyrant and then link comes in and teams uo with zelda who has learned from her mistakes and wants to redeem herself

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God_of_6strings
04/16/23 8:12:01 AM
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ViewtifulJoe posted...
Has there ever been a Ganondorf boss fight where he wasn't a complete pushover?
The Wind Waker final boss was challenging, as Zelda bosses go, anyway. Although he is called Ganon throughout that whole game, it is his Ganondorf form.
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YellowSUV
04/16/23 2:06:55 PM
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I don't think I ever heard anyone call the Wind Waker Ganon fight challenging until now. It is perhaps my favorite Ganon fight in the entire series because of how well done it is thematically, but he is a pushover in it. Which makes sense, since he is just a man with no supernatural powers after the Triforce dissipated right before the fight.

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GeneralKenobi85
04/16/23 2:24:59 PM
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ViewtifulGrave posted...
???

Ganon is just Ganondorf using the Triforce of Power. Where are you getting this avatar nonsense?
There is Aganhim, who is referred to as Ganon's alter ego. Aganhim was definitely a proto-Ganondorf at the very least.

Hopefully they do a nice job with a Ganondorf boss fight. The fights in Wind Waker and Twilight Princess were at least thematically cool. It's certainly got to be better than BOTW's final boss fight.

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RyukSan
04/16/23 2:36:18 PM
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YellowSUV posted...
I don't think I ever heard anyone call the Wind Waker Ganon fight challenging until now. It is perhaps my favorite Ganon fight in the entire series because of how well done it is thematically, but he is a pushover in it. Which makes sense, since he is just a man with no supernatural powers after the Triforce dissipated right before the fight.
To be fair, Ganondorf in that timeline wasn't gunning for blood per se. He only killed when he thought it was absolutely necessary like the sages.

The boss fight had him bitch slap Zelda instead of trying to kill her. With him outright putting his sword away to bitch slap her to get her out of the way.

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