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Guns_of_Verdun
04/12/23 10:25:53 PM
#101:


Punished_Blinx posted...
Yes you did.

You're lying and putting words in people's mouths (After directly complaining people did that to you, hypocrisy)

  1. That wasn't calling for an apology. Just the generic stand by fans/colleagues statement.
  2. Nobody said she SHOULD apologize or make a statement. They said if she chooses to make a statement, deflecting valid criticism as racism is bad.
You then defended that saying that if she does have to make a statement, defending valid criticism as racism will incur less harrasment than her saying she has a lot to learn, first time, looks foward to the future etc.

Which is BS and you know it's BS since you can't stand by it and have to lie constantly


Because she received harassment over her performance and interpretation of the character.

No one said anything about how she "interpreted the character" they criticized her vocal performance.

You can't slide valid criticism of the performance as the same thing as being harrased.


Nobody cares about 'valid criticism' when they're being bombarded with hate on social media. That train leaves the station when that becomes the story.

  1. Why not?
  2. If you're gonna respond publically to your performance you can't treat the valid criticism and Harrasment as the same thing and imply everyone is racist
That's absurd and you know it's absurd.


Because he responded to an author writing a Dragon Ball book who contacted him for info. He wasn't responding because his social media was flooded with abuse and hate.

Which was probably why it took him 7 years to say anything.

Once again you refused to answer so we have no choice but assume your answer is:

"No, that's obviously ridiclous, no one in the world could possibly think that" and that you are just not willing to say it out of embarrasment.



Are you a fan of UnfairRepresent?

Like I don't know how clearer I can make it.

Don't expect people to respond to your 'criticism' in the middle of a harassment campaign. In fact don't expect a response to your criticism at all. It's overall a pretty simple concept. Not sure why you're struggling.

Rude, hypocrisy, ridiclous.

No one is saying she had to respond to the negative response to the performance. She chose to do that. You can't just ignore that she chose to do that and then insult people for saying it looks bad for her to slide valid criticism of her performance alongside racist harrasment and imply they're the same thing.

You can't just ignore that her response brought up her performance of the character. You keep doing that and insisting it's solely about harrasment when her response just wasn't.

You keep lying



Your criticism overall does not matter in comparison to harassment and abuse people like voice actors receive on the internet. If you think otherwise you are entitled. It's just a performance in a video game. It shouldn't be a big deal.

What does this even mean? You're just ranting now. Who said anything about their opinions being more important than harrasment....

Yvynn's post summed it up:

Ivynn posted...
Her voice acting sucks.

People harassing her for it suck more.


It's that simple. I'll add a 3rd line to it

  1. Her voice acting sucks.
  2. Her using harrasment to handwave valid criticism also sucks.
  3. People harassing her for it suck more.


Boom, that's it. That's everything. You don't have to do this weird thing you're doing.

Also just going to warn you that if you blatantly lie or randomly insult me again, I'm going to ignore you. I'm totally cool with different opinions and love discussion (as hopefully you can see) but you keep being absurdly rude for no reason and I don't appreciate it.

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deoxxys
04/12/23 10:26:14 PM
#102:


Ragtag28 posted...
At first I wasn't going to reply in this topic but this is too ridiculous of a take not to respond to. So are you saying her receving racists and sexist remarks because of her performance is justified?
No they're saying that harassment is simply an inevitability that it comes with the internet and it looks like they're using harassment as a scapegoat to avoid addressing legitimate criticism.

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Guns_of_Verdun
04/12/23 10:27:41 PM
#103:


deoxxys posted...
And this topic is the golden example of why you can't criticize someone because it always devolves into, "must be those sexist racist incels".

Most people criticizing her performance have not contacted her personally and narrowing your focus to the harassment always just scapegoats bad performance.
yup

Ragtag28 posted...
At first I wasn't going to reply in this topic but this is too ridiculous of a take not to respond to. So are you saying her receving racists and sexist remarks because of her performance is justified?

No, nobody said that

No one said anything like that.

If you dropped an atomic bomb on that, what people said wouldn't even have radiation burns.

See:

Guns_of_Verdun posted...


Her voice acting sucks.
Her using harrasment to handwave valid criticism also sucks.
People harassing her for it suck more.

Boom, that's it. That's everything. You don't have to do this weird thing you're doing.



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Ragtag28
04/12/23 10:27:47 PM
#104:


Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
Why should that be moddable, because you personally disagree? It isn't designed to offend and it isn't trolling. Gamefaqs forums don't exist to make you feel vindication, they exist for people to talk about various subjects online.
Politics board will disagree on you with that. But I didn't say anything

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Ragtag28
04/12/23 10:30:36 PM
#105:


Guns_of_Verdun posted...
Agreed.

It's really this simple.
Someone gets it

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Punished_Blinx
04/12/23 10:43:35 PM
#107:


Guns_of_Verdun posted...
What does this even mean? You're just ranting now. Who said anything about their opinions being more important than harrasment....

Why should she also respond to "opinions" when reacting to harassment she has received?

By complaining that your opinions and criticisms are being 'handwaved' you are placing a level of importance on them.

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Giblet_Enjoyer
04/12/23 10:48:17 PM
#108:


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I've never seen anything like that stand for any length. Again, I don't believe it until I see it.

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Stating you wish women put out more or something like that isn't misogyny though. I'm assuming there's more to it than this though and it's possible they just weren't marked.

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Revelation34
04/13/23 1:28:12 AM
#110:


_Angel_ posted...
People are mad because Adas voice acting wasnt sexy

wasnt nothing wrong with it


It was shit. Obviously better than anybody on this site could do but still shit. The harassment was wrong regardless.

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Muflaggin
04/13/23 4:11:57 AM
#111:


Punished_Blinx posted...
I'm okay with her awful performance and will irrationally defend it.

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Slayer_22
04/13/23 4:21:14 AM
#112:


Lol

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Punished_Blinx
04/13/23 4:29:45 AM
#113:


I haven't said a single thing about her performance and haven't said anything that defends it.

Being against bombarding voice actors and individuals who work on video games isn't defending their work.

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Unknown5uspect
04/13/23 4:44:30 AM
#114:


Guns_of_Verdun posted...
Her using harrasment to handwave valid criticism also sucks.
This statement is handwaving the harassment she's received. Why are you doing that?

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Arcanine2009
04/13/23 5:08:56 AM
#115:


Also, Ada has been portrayed by Asian VAs many times, all in Japanese.

I mean the game is originally Japanese so..

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pegusus123456
04/13/23 5:14:30 AM
#116:


Also, to be clear, Ada Wong is Chinese lol

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Slayer_22
04/13/23 5:15:13 AM
#117:


Arcanine2009 posted...
Also, Ada has been portrayed by Asian VAs many times, all in Japanese.

I mean the game is originally Japanese so..
The original games had no Japanese voice acting. I forget which game was the first to introduce it, but I think it was RE6. Every game before that had only an English dub. Same was true for DMC(I think, again, until recently) and I think Viewtiful Joe?

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Guns_of_Verdun
04/13/23 9:15:36 AM
#118:


Unknown5uspect posted...
This statement is handwaving the harassment she's received. Why are you doing that?
No it's not.

What a silly thing to say.


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_Angel_
04/13/23 10:15:30 AM
#119:


Slayer_22 posted...
Why not say stuff that makes sense to defend herself, then? "I was acting like that to portray Ada as detached" is a lot more true to how the character sounds than "SHE'S KIND AND FUNNY!"

It's not really a case of up in arms. I just think she's a shit voice actor. Her 1 minute part in Welcome To Racoon City was also terrible. The game is still one of the best ever made, easily.

that fact people are attacking her means there is quite a bit of up in arms going on and to be clear I do mean the harassment in general and not YOU specifically

as to your first question idk. People are sensitive about their artistic works. Maybe shes not trying to say yeah I phoned it in or anything to that effect. Whatever the reason is we know kind and funny or whatever is horseshit so I dismiss all of that by default

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_Angel_
04/13/23 10:17:34 AM
#120:


Revelation34 posted...
It was shit. Obviously better than anybody on this site could do but still shit. The harassment was wrong regardless.

nah

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Guns_of_Verdun
04/13/23 10:22:51 AM
#121:


_Angel_ posted...


as to your first question idk. People are sensitive about their artistic works. Maybe shes not trying to say yeah I phoned it in or anything to that effect. Whatever the reason is we know kind and funny or whatever is horses*** so I dismiss all of that by default
Honestly a lot of the blame lies with Capcom and the voice direction

Her performance was awful but they okayed it. They were ones who didn't say "That was terrible, let's do another take but actually try this time."

I wonder if she only had like 4 hours to record to the lines, did one take and that was it.

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viewmaster_pi
04/13/23 10:25:20 AM
#122:


Guns_of_Verdun posted...
I wonder if she only had like 4 hours to record to the lines, did one take and that was it.
probably. retakes means more time in the booth/more words recorded, which means more money they have to pay their VAs, so they often don't offer full scripts, don't give context or meaningful direction, they want the talkers in and out and gone

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Slayer_22
04/13/23 4:03:36 PM
#123:


Guns_of_Verdun posted...
Honestly a lot of the blame lies with Capcom and the voice direction

Her performance was awful but they okayed it. They were ones who didn't say "That was terrible, let's do another take but actually try this time."

I wonder if she only had like 4 hours to record to the lines, did one take and that was it.
I figure the voice director had a lot more difficulty considering she was just a straight up actor over a voice actor and likely had no say on her being used.

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Revelation34
04/14/23 6:08:30 AM
#124:


_Angel_ posted...


nah


I listened to it. It was shit.

viewmaster_pi posted...

probably. retakes means more time in the booth/more words recorded, which means more money they have to pay their VAs, so they often don't offer full scripts, don't give context or meaningful direction, they want the talkers in and out and gone


It would also depend on the company anyway. I doubt Nintendo wouldn't allow retakes.

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Ratchetrockon
04/14/23 6:12:12 AM
#125:


I'm just surprised ppl care about video game voice acting that much


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Slayer_22
04/15/23 3:09:44 AM
#126:


Ratchetrockon posted...
I'm just surprised ppl care about video game voice acting that much
Why's that?

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